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55tbird
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proof of the pudding in regard to the two million page views on the nys aca website.
ny dept of health just announced 29,000 unique visitors in two days to the website


"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
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proof of the pudding in regard to the two million page views on the nys aca website.
ny dept of health just announced 29,000 unique visitors in two days to the website


Fantastic!  At that rate in 70 days 2,000,000 will sign up!  Well before the Jan 1 startup.  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Fantastic!  At that rate in 70 days 2,000,000 will sign up!  Well before the Jan 1 startup.  


keep dreaming...


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proof of the pudding in regard to the two million page views on the nys aca website.
ny dept of health just announced 29,000 unique visitors in two days to the website


Could you provide the link to that info please.


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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Did Obama sign up yet? How about Pelosi, all the other Democrats, all the Republicans, all the Congressional aides? All the Republicans need to do to end this is insist that NOBODY gets an exemption to this wonderful bill of goods.
A lot more people are going to be signing up for Medicaid. Rah rah rah. Didn't Schenectady County government complain of having a problem with Medicaid costs already? I hope the people I know who are in danger of losing their house now, already have health insurance, because if they have to pay a fine they will have to let their house go.
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Could you provide the link to that info please.


i heard it on wrgb 6:30 newscast tonight


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Did Obama sign up yet? How about Pelosi, all the other Democrats, all the Republicans, all the Congressional aides? All the Republicans need to do to end this is insist that NOBODY gets an exemption to this wonderful bill of goods.
A lot more people are going to be signing up for Medicaid. Rah rah rah. Didn't Schenectady County government complain of having a problem with Medicaid costs already? I hope the people I know who are in danger of losing their house now, already have health insurance, because if they have to pay a fine they will have to let their house go.


Who is exmpt may be a misunderstood area of the AHC:
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Obamacare exemptions include religious objections to purchasing insurance (mostly intended for the Amish) or being a Native American (who are part of a separate healthcare system). The religious exemption is actually fairly broad since it affects anyone who is “conscientiously opposed to accepting any insurance benefits,” which some say would include Muslim groups.

Another set of Obamacare exemptions focus on individuals facing “hardships,” which includes being homeless, being in jail, recently filing for bankruptcy, being a recent victim of domestic violence, or having been evicted in the past six months. Individuals are also exempt from Obamacare penalties if they experience a lapse in health coverage of less than three months in a calendar year. And non-US citizens are of course exempt.

Other Obamacare exemptions focus on those too poor to afford insurance and seniors with a low income. Even if you are above the poverty line, if the cost of health insurance happens to exceed an eight percent household income threshold you are exempt from Obamacare through at least 2014 (this law might change).

Technically, anyone who makes less than $14,856 per year are exempt from Obamacare’s state exchanges but an extended Medicaid program is supposed to cover the poor for free. When Obamacare went to the Supreme court the Medicaid expansion requirement was overturned. This means that states can choose to reject the Medicaid expansion for the poor yet still receive full Federal funding under the Affordable Care Act. So you will need to check whether your particular state covers you underneath the Medicaid expansion if your income is less than 133 percent of the federal poverty line.

Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/97439.....#IBVjSu3R8kE9cZSL.99


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Did Obama sign up yet? How about Pelosi, all the other Democrats, all the Republicans, all the Congressional aides? All the Republicans need to do to end this is insist that NOBODY gets an exemption to this wonderful bill of goods.
A lot more people are going to be signing up for Medicaid. Rah rah rah. Didn't Schenectady County government complain of having a problem with Medicaid costs already? I hope the people I know who are in danger of losing their house now, already have health insurance, because if they have to pay a fine they will have to let their house go.


I didn't sign up yet... neither did the vast majority of Americans.  They already have health insurance.

ObamaCare is for those without healthcare, not for those who already have it.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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ObamaCare is for those without healthcare, not for those who already have it.


Heath insurance box, HEALTH INSURANCE.  Mandatory car insurance wouldn't be for people that don't have a car yet.


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Beginning in 2018, a 40 percent excise tax will be imposed on the value of health insurance benefits exceeding a certain threshold. The thresholds are $10,200 for individual coverage and $27,500 for family coverage (indexed to inflation). The thresholds increase for individuals in high-risk professions and for employers that have a disproportionately older population.


Exactly!!! The sheople don't have a clue!!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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Life insurance, pensions and healthcare[edit source]

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Actuarial science became a formal mathematical discipline in the late 17th century with the increased demand for long-term insurance coverages such as Burial, Life insurance, and Annuities. These long term coverages required that money be set aside to pay future benefits, such as annuity and death benefits many years into the future. This requires estimating future contingent events, such as the rates of mortality by age, as well as the development of mathematical techniques for discounting the value of funds set aside and invested. This led to the development of an important actuarial concept, referred to as the Present value of a future sum. Pensions and healthcare emerged in the early 20th century as a result of collective bargaining. Certain aspects of the actuarial methods for discounting pension funds have come under criticism from modern financial economics.
In traditional life insurance, actuarial science focuses on the analysis of mortality, the production of life tables, and the application of compound interest to produce life insurance, annuities and endowment policies. Contemporary life insurance programs have been extended to include credit and mortgage insurance, key man insurance for small businesses, long term care insurance and health savings accounts (Hsiao 2001).
In health insurance, including insurance provided directly by employers, and social insurance, actuarial science focuses on the analysis of rates of disability, morbidity, mortality, fertility and other contingencies. The effects of consumer choice and the geographical distribution of the utilization of medical services and procedures, and the utilization of drugs and therapies, is also of great importance. These factors underlay the development of the Resource-Base Relative Value Scale (RBRVS) at Harvard in a multi-disciplined study (Hsiao 2004). Actuarial science also aids in the design of benefit structures, reimbursement standards, and the effects of proposed government standards on the cost of healthcare (CHBRP 2004).
In the pension industry, actuarial methods are used to measure the costs of alternative strategies with regard to the design, funding, accounting, administration, and maintenance or redesign of pension plans. The strategies are greatly influenced by short-term and long-term bond rates, the funded status of the pension and benefit arrangements, collective bargaining; the employer's old, new and foreign competitors; the changing demographics of the workforce; changes in the internal revenue code; changes in the attitude of the internal revenue service regarding the calculation of surpluses; and equally importantly, both the short and long term financial and economic trends. It is common with mergers and acquisitions that several pension plans have to be combined or at least administered on an equitable basis. When benefit changes occur, old and new benefit plans have to be blended, satisfying new social demands and various government discrimination test calculations, and providing employees and retirees with understandable choices and transition paths. Benefit plans liabilities have to be properly valued, reflecting both earned benefits for past service, and the benefits for future service. Finally, funding schemes have to be developed that are manageable and satisfy the standards board or regulators of the appropriate country, such as the Financial Accounting Standards Board in the United States.
In social welfare programs, the Office of the Chief Actuary (OCACT), Social Security Administration plans and directs a program of actuarial estimates and analyses relating to SSA-administered retirement, survivors and disability insurance programs and to proposed changes in those programs. It evaluates operations of the Federal Old-Age and Survivors Insurance Trust Fund and the Federal Disability Insurance Trust Fund, conducts studies of program financing, performs actuarial and demographic research on social insurance and related program issues involving mortality, morbidity, utilization, retirement, disability, survivorship, marriage, unemployment, poverty, old age, families with children, etc., and projects future workloads. In addition, the Office is charged with conducting cost analyses relating to the Supplemental Security Income (SSI) program, a general-revenue financed, means-tested program for low-income aged, blind and disabled people. The Office provides technical and consultative services to the Commissioner, to the Board of Trustees of the Social Security Trust Funds, and its staff appears before Congressional Committees to provide expert testimony on the actuarial aspects of Social Security issues.



even those with collective bargaining want an opt out


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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"This mess was created by the Republicans for one purpose, and they lost. People in my district are
calling in for Obamacare -- affordable health care -- in large numbers.
These guys have lost, and they can't figure out how to admit it... So we sit here until they
figure out they fukin' lost."


-- Rep. Jim McDermott (D-WA), quoted by Slate, on when the government shutdown will end.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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There's an unbiased source.
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M. Turner


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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M. Turner


Is she one of the 160,000 Walgreens employees that lost their health insurance benefits and forced onto the exchanges?  Or does she work for Trader Joe's and just had her health insurance benefits eliminated and her hours reduced to 29 hours?


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