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Cissy is among those who don't vote. Cissy wants it his way... the entire govt must bow to Cissy's
version of govt.  If only Cissy and like minded people would vote, he might get his wish.


My way?  There is no my way.  I already told you, you and the rest that want to be coerced into giving the government your money, and need to be mandated to purchase health insurance because you otherwise wouldn't on your own, can subject yourselves to the forced compliance.  I understand the need for certain people to have their lives managed for them.  Have at it!  You are FREE to do so.  I'm not stopping you.


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My way?  There is no my way.

Yes, Your way.  No govt for anyone... anyone but you.



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Yes, Your way.  No govt for anyone... anyone but you.



No, I said you can have your government if you need to be governed.


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No, I said you can have your government if you need to be governed.


Cissy disavows his own government... except when it benefits him.  Did he pay for his education?
Nope, yet he wants compulsory education ended and even though his education was paid for
by the taxpayers, now that he has HIS education he doesn't want to pay for anyone else's.

Cissy wants to use OUR roads, but not pay for them.  He wants US to pay for the roads... that
he uses.

Cicero wants US to pay for infrastructure that HE uses, but he thinks it unfair that he should pay.

Cicero wants US to pay for police and fire protection, but HE doesn't want to pay for them.

Cicero only wants to pay for the services that he uses.  So Cissy... go it alone.   Buy your own
island and pay for your own sewer, your own water, your own roads, hospitals, schools etc.

But as long as you are here sucking up all the benefits... don't ya think you should have to pay
something for them???



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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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everyone is paying for their 'free' education based on the school taxes where they live....that would mean 'not free'....

extortion much like a student loan for college....

the value of each is to be determined.....

as for sucking up the benefits...that's a term for the employees of said institutions....

again---what's the value of taxes paid??????

a feel good campfire with smores and some weed....????? never mind...moonshine will do


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Cissy disavows his own government... except when it benefits him.  Did he pay for his education?
Nope, yet he wants compulsory education ended and even though his education was paid for
by the taxpayers, now that he has HIS education he doesn't want to pay for anyone else's.



Did I pay for my government schooling?  I paid in school taxes in 4 years what it cost in taxes for my entire 13 years of indoctrination. School taxes used to be less than half of property tax.  So if property tax was $1000, school tax was $500.  Now it's $1000 and $1000.  Ohhhh, I'm paying for my "free" schooling alright, and then some.  And my elementary music teacher, who was well past retirement, finally retired with a 6 figure final year salary.  Yeah, the elementary music teacher, really shaping the minds of the future.


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Did I pay for my government schooling?  I paid in school taxes in 4 years what it cost in taxes for my entire 13 years of indoctrination. School taxes used to be less than half of property tax.  So if property tax was $1000, school tax was $500.  Now it's $1000 and $1000.  Ohhhh, I'm paying for my "free" schooling alright, and then some.  And my elementary music teacher, who was well past retirement, finally retired with a 6 figure final year salary.  Yeah, the elementary music teacher, really shaping the minds of the future.


Nobody in my family has ever attended a public school, and my taxes are most likely higher than yours.
In all fairness, when can I expect my refund check from you?
Or are you some kind of socialist?

Seriously, shut up you ungrateful welfare queen.

If you can read this, it's because I paid for your education.


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it's not about who paid for whom....but...the VALUE OF TAXES PAID......

teaching used to be a womans job as did nursing....and the gender still rules both professions (currently).....

they should get paid just as much as the city garbageman.....

healthcare will turn into a salary machine just like education


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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If you can read this, it's because I paid for your education.


Really?  Literacy is the invention of goveremt school?  You just told me you didn't attend government school?  Strange logic.


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If you can read this, it's because I paid for your education.


YUP!  Cissy takes... he never gives.



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YUP!  Cissy takes... he never gives.



Taxation isn't "giving", it's taking.  Giving means voluntarily, with consent.  I "give" to charity, I "give" blood, taxes are taken.


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Taxation isn't "giving", it's taking.  Giving means voluntarily, with consent.  I "give" to charity, I "give" blood, taxes are taken.


As posted above, Cicero never gives... he only takes.  He took his education, paid for by the Taxpayers,
now that he's got his... he wants to screw the following generation by forcing them to pay for their
own education.

Cicero takes and takes and takes... then complains that "HIS" money is 'taken' from him.  

Just tomorrow Cicero only drive on YOUR ROADS, not OUR ROADS.
Only drink YOUR WATER, not OUR WATER.
Only flush your toilet into YOUR SEWER SYSTEM, not OURS.
Only relax in YOUR PARKS, not OUR PUBLIC PARKS.
And
Just for tomorrow, don't TAKE anything of OURS.  Only use what is YOURS!


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Cicero takes and takes and takes... then complains that "HIS" money is 'taken' from him.  


Whose money is it, if it isn't mine?  Again, you make the unfounded claims that I wouldn't voluntarily give money for non essential government services.  Some I may(doubtful), some I may not.  By not funding billions to the department of education wouldn't be the end of government schooling.  States and local governments can provide those non essential government services if they wish.


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Whose money is it, if it isn't mine?  Again, you make the unfounded claims that I wouldn't voluntarily give money for non essential government services.  Some I may(doubtful), some I may not.  By not funding billions to the department of education wouldn't be the end of government schooling.  States and local governments can provide those non essential government services if they wish.


Cissy, if you want to GIVE your money to the govt... then DO IT and quit whining.  But that isn't the
subject of this discussion.  
You want to TAKE services from this govt, but not pay for them.  You want those services that you
don't presently use, to be available for you when you do need them, but again, you only want to
pay for what YOU use.

Cissy takes and takes and takes... then he whines and whines and whines that he might have to pay
for something that he doesn't personally use.

Get over yourself Cicero.  Pay your taxes or work to reform taxes, or go to a country where there are
no taxes... or you can do what you've done since I've been on this board... whine about it but do nothing.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Cissy, if you want to GIVE your money to the govt... then DO IT and quit whining.  But that isn't the
subject of this discussion.  
You want to TAKE services from this govt, but not pay for them.  You want those services that you
don't presently use, to be available for you when you do need them, but again, you only want to
pay for what YOU use.

Cissy takes and takes and takes... then he whines and whines and whines that he might have to pay
for something that he doesn't personally use.

Get over yourself Cicero.  Pay your taxes or work to reform taxes, or go to a country where there are
no taxes... or you can do what you've done since I've been on this board... whine about it but do nothing.


Box, I don't have the authority to TAKE.  The government takes using threats of violence if they don't get their money.  You are speaking Orwellian, you try to paint me as the taker, when you know the government is the taker.  If I was a taker, it would be theft.  Only governments can TAKE without permission.  I can't opt out of social security, I can't opt out of Obamacare, but the government can FORCE me to contribute to those non essential government services.

YOU are the taker box.  You enjoy taking, you relishing in the fact you support the powers to take.  So YOU can receive those services at the expense of others.  


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