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The polling data I posted had no 8% opposed because it didn't go far enough so don't modify the facts to fit your left wing agenda.
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The polling data I posted had no 8% opposed because it didn't go far enough so don't modify the facts to fit your left wing agenda.


Right.  Your poll was incomplete.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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That's your opinion.
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That's your opinion.


I am one of the ones in that 8% who wanted the Individual Option.  When the TeaBaggers Killed it,
I wanted ObamaCare to be halted until it was put back into the bill.

As you can see today, millions of uninsured are the result.


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Yes we all know you wanted to have socialized medicine totally run by government almighty. The ACA may have been a better law if it had included tort reform to help lower cost or be able to buy health insurance across state lines but the Dems didn't want to take a chance and not take care of their bid donors the lawyer lobby.
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Yes we all know you wanted to have socialized medicine totally run by government almighty. The ACA may have been a better law if it had included tort reform to help lower cost or be able to buy health insurance across state lines but the Dems didn't want to take a chance and not take care of their bid donors the lawyer lobby.


See Shadow, you've come up with a compromise that could have been had by the TeaBaggers.  Instead
they shut down the govt and got nuttin"


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there was never anything to get....what we did get was a look up America's skirts.....

America just had an abortion


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO......a very very large bank just modified their employees health insurance. Here it goes.......they will no longer cover employee spouses if the spouse can obtain coverage from their employer....even if the spouse's insurance is higher.

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.....the husband who works for this bank has been paying $700/month for him and his spouse...UNTIL NOW!! Now the husband's coverage thru the bank will come down to $450-ish and his wife will have to pay $700+/month (both thru her employer's coverage and thru the Obama-exchange) BECAUSE she has a pre-existing condition....CANCER.

And this is just ONE of the many heartbreaking stories emerging out of this mess!!

It clearly appears that the insurance companies are the ones making out here.........just more corporate welfare at it's best!!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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How can that be, Box has said that Obamacare is good. It will save $2500 a year, Obama has said so.
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Thanks to Kentucky's Governor, Steve Beshear, and in spite of Kentucky's two anti Obamacare Senators,
TeaBagger Rand Paul & Mitch McConnell, Kentucky is winning with ObamaCare!
Kentucky is the top state for Obamacare enrollment.

(How embarrassing for their TeaBagger junior Senator)


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How can that be, Box has said that Obamacare is good. It will save $2500 a year, Obama has said so.


From what I'm hearing.............a business will no longer cover 'spouses'. (per obamacare) If each one works....they are to obtain their 'own' health care from their 'own' employer and only ONE can carry the 'kids' if they have them. So only ONE can cover the kids.

It will be costing the working folks almost double than what they were previous paying for a family policy.

AGAIN..........CORPORATE WELFARE AT IT'S BEST. The insurance companies will be raking in the big bucks!!! They are the only winner here!! But then again...it's the 1% that always keeps getting richer!

OH........and by the way..........government employees are exempt from this scam.





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From what I'm hearing.............a business will no longer cover 'spouses'. (per obamacare) If each one works....they are to obtain their 'own' health care from their 'own' employer and only ONE can carry the 'kids' if they have them. So only ONE can cover the kids.
OH........and by the way..........government employees are exempt from this scam.


That has been the policy since the late 80s - early 90's at many large corporations.  GE GM IBM etc.
If your spouse has their own coverage, they must use their insurance or else pay a higher premium on yours.
  If your spouse has no health care coverage, then they are still under your own policy.

However most large corporations would drop your kids at age 18 or 21 unless they were FULL TIME
in college.  Once they graduated, they were off your policy.  Now ObamaCare keeps them on your policy
till they are 26.
Adult children of that age... 18 - 26 are often in school part time or working at several part time jobs
until they find their way in life.  A leading cause of injury or death for boys that age is auto accidents.
As many were not covered before ObamaCare, and were off their parents policy, parents would be stuck
with the bills or if they were emancipated, they would go on welfare.
With young women in that age group, 18 - 28 a large number would become pregnant... married or not, and
with out health insurance coverage, and the closing of many Planned parenthood clinics, they didn't have
access to reliable affordable contraceptives.  The result is an underemployed uninsured women going on
welfare and the very expensive OB/GYN and infant care for the taxpayers.  With ObamaCare, women
will have access to contraceptives and health care.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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That has been the policy since the late 80s - early 90's at many large corporations.  GE GM IBM etc.
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You understand company policy is different than Federal Law right?


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You understand company policy is different than Federal Law right?


Good. Show me the federal law???
I havent seen it.  Have you???

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.a business will no longer cover 'spouses'. (per obamacare) If each one works....they are to obtain their 'own' health care from their 'own' employer and only ONE can carry the 'kids' if they have them. So only ONE can cover the kids.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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John Kenneth Galbraith

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How can that be, Box has said that Obamacare is good. It will save $2500 a year, Obama has said so.


That's how collective logic works.  It allegedly saves ON AVERAGE $2500 per year, but they never tell you at whose expense.  So people who have worked hard and established a middle class lifestyle with affordable health insurance, now must pay more and lower their lfestyle for those that paid higher health insurance premiums.  It's called redistribution, and you are supposed to embrace it.  So downsize your home, stop saving for your child's education, forget about that retirement condo in florida, and start eating Mac n Cheese for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

The American middle class has just been robbed blind.  Go and thank a senior with a vacation home, two cars, an RV, a country club membership, and all the luxuries you will never see in your lifetime. That is the future generations inheritance.  A $17 trillion bill left to their kids.  Hey boomers, your welcome!


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