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All this happened under President Reagan... No ObamaCare, Even before Bill & Hillary were in the white house.

It appears that other companies are now catching up to what I had to pay back in the 80's, only now it's
being blamed on ObamaCare.  

Amazing!!  You were able to blame a Republican that has been out of office for 25 years, and dead for 9 years, for the problems created by Obamacare.  You are good box...you are good.  

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Amazing!!  You were able to blame a Republican that has been out of office for 25 years, and dead for 9 years, for the problems created by Obamacare.  You are good box...you are good.  

No Cissy, I didn't blame anyone except my employer.  You just needed
to start your day with YET ONE MORE STRAW MAN.

Quoted from Box A Rox

No Cissy, I didn't blame anyone except my employer.  You just needed
to start your day with YET ONE MORE STRAW MAN.

Yes, of course.  An employers decisions to cut hours and drop spouses as a direct response to government regulations has absolutely nothing to do with the regulations.  Man, what universe do you live in?  

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Yes, of course.  An employers decisions to cut hours and drop spouses as a direct response
to government regulations has absolutely nothing to do with the regulations.  Man, what
universe do you live in?  

I posted my experience in the 80's. So are you saying that my experience with health care, where
spouses were cut from health care plans, was due to govt regulations???

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I posted my experience in the 80's. So are you saying that my experience with health care, where
spouses were cut from health care plans, was due to govt regulations???

I don't know, you didn't give me the name of the company that dropped the spouse coverage.  Could it be because after 10 years of Ted Kennedy's failed HMO regulations that drove up health insurance costs?  I gave you the links and posted the articles that give the number of employees affect, and the reason the companies decided to drop coverage.

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I don't know, you didn't give me the name of the company that dropped the spouse coverage.  Could it be because after 10 years of Ted Kennedy's failed HMO regulations that drove up health insurance costs?  I gave you the links and posted the articles that give the number of employees affect, and the reason the companies decided to drop coverage.

LMAO!  OK... Ask Ge, IBM, GM CVS etc. why they are cutting health care benefits and they will tell you
ObamaCare.
But when MY benefits were cut in the 80's ObamaCare didn't exist... and now YOU ARE BLAMING TED
KENNEDY for cuts to my health care insurance.

The rising cost of Health Care caused the cuts in benefits for as long as I've been employed.  Every
time a major corporation would cut benefits, they would site health care costs as the reason.
That was as true in Reagan's time, as it is today.

The reason that health care costs have continued to climb from the 80's to today is the GOP makes it's
fortune keeping the system that funds their campaigns.  

Health care costs from the 80's to today:

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LMAO!  OK... Ask Ge, IBM, GM CVS etc. why they are cutting health care benefits and they will tell you
ObamaCare.
But when MY benefits were cut in the 80's ObamaCare didn't exist... and now YOU ARE BLAMING TED
KENNEDY for cuts to my health care insurance.

Box, I thought the point of Obamacare was to make healthcare affordable?  Now you are saying companies are dropping spouses and cutting hours, no different than 30 years ago because it is too expensive?  Alright, let's not blame Obamacare for employers dropping coverage on spouses and cutting hours back to 29 hours(coincidently 29 hours is the Obamacare threshold when employers do not not get penalized).  Lets just say the "affordable" in affordable care act isn't living up to its promises.  It did nothing to stop what box says has been going on for 30 years in making Heath insurance more affordable.
  

Hundreds of thousands of people are getting their hours reduced, healthcare coverage dropped and kicked onto the exchanges, and is now its costing many families MORE money for Health Insurance, as well as going from full time to part time.  Wasn't Obamacare to prevent this?  Wasn't it all rainbows and cotton candy when it was sold?

The more things change the more they stay the same.  Hope and Change!

From Factcheck.org

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These figures come from the Kaiser Family Foundation/Health Research & Educational
Trust’s annual employer health benefits surveys, which show that premiums for employer-
sponsored plans have been going up for years, since well before Obama took office. The
figures above are for total premiums, paid by both employer and worker combined. Experts
told us the health care law was responsible for a 1 percent to 3 percent increase in
family premiums from 2010 to 2011 — they went up a total of 9 percent, mainly due to
higher medical costs. The increase due to the law was attributed to the elimination of
preexisting condition exclusions for children, the requirement that dependents be covered
on their parents’ plan to age 26, free coverage of preventive care, and the increase in
caps on annual coverage.
From 2011 to 2012, employer-based family plans increased
by just 4 percent on average, a jump Kaiser and HRET called
“moderate by historical standards.”

From Factcheck.org
Part Time Work

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The RNC’s 8.2 million figure is the total number of Americans working “part-time for
economic reasons,” either because they couldn’t find full-time work or because their hours
had been reduced, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics’ June figures. Certainly,
everyone who can’t find a full-time job, in a still recovering economy, isn’t in that
predicament “partly due to ObamaCare.”

The 8.2 million is actually less than the 9.1 million part-timers seeking full-time work in
March 2010, the month the Affordable Care Act was signed into law. BLS figures show
that this category of workers skyrocketed in 2008, from 4.8 million in January of that
year to 8 million in December. (The nation was officially in a recession from December
2007 to June 2009.)
In recent years, the number working part-time for economic reasons has
fluctuated, but in general, has been on a slow trajectory downward. Here’s
a chart of BLS data, showing the pre- and post-health care law figures.

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From 2011 to 2012, employer-based family plans increased
by just 4 percent on average, a jump Kaiser and HRET called
“moderate by historical standards.”

Average box, average...who are the people whose costs went up MORE than 4%.  Oh yeah...That doesn't matter when speaking collectively.  Some people must feel pain.

BTW, I though it was supposed to go down on average by $2500 a year.  Now you are posting statistics that show just the opposite?

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Average box, average...who are the people whose costs went up MORE than 4%.  Oh yeah...That doesn't matter when speaking collectively.  Some people must feel pain.

BTW, I though it was supposed to go down on average by $2500 a year.  Now you are posting statistics that show just the opposite?

Um... Isn't ObamaCare yet to begin for the vast numbers of Americans???
Aren't we supposed to sign up NOW for coverage STARTING IN JANUARY 2014???
For Americans who had preexisting conditions... ObamaCare can be a life saver as well as a $$$ saver.
For those under 26, Obama care can be a lifesaver as well as a $$$ saver.
For women who've gotten their first gyno exam with no co pay under ObamaCare and for
everyone who's had "a no co pay"  physical from their pcp... ObamaCare can be a life saver
as well as a $$$ saver.

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Um... Isn't ObamaCare yet to begin for the vast numbers of Americans???
Aren't we supposed to sign up NOW for coverage STARTING IN JANUARY 2014???
For Americans who had preexisting conditions... ObamaCare can be a life saver as well as a $$$ saver.
For those under 26, Obama care can be a lifesaver as well as a $$$ saver.
For women who've gotten their first gyno exam with no co pay under ObamaCare and for
everyone who's had "a no co pay"  physical from their pcp... ObamaCare can be a life saver
as well as a $$$ saver.

At a cost to WHOM box?  At a cost to WHOM?

How much does the cost of health-care go up when you factor in the deductibles, some as high as $5000 for a single and $8000 to $12,000 for a family.

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At a cost to WHOM box?  At a cost to WHOM?

Oh yea.  Cissy is a ME.  He only cares about HIS.  As long as HE has HIS, Screw Everyone Else.

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Oh yea.  Cissy is a ME.  He only cares about HIS.  As long as HE has HIS, Screw Everyone Else.

No answer huh box?  You have it backward, as long as you get YOURS box, screw Everybody Else.