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WASHINGTON, DC, February 14, 2011 (ENS) - President Barack Obama sent a proposed fiscal year 2012 budget of $3.7 trillion budget to Capitol Hill today that cuts programs in every environmentally-related agency. The common theme in statements from administration officials is "tough choices."
The EPA's FY 2012 budget cuts deepest into the combined budget for the Clean Water and Drinking Water State Revolving Funds. The FY 2012 proposal of $2.5 billion is a decrease of $947 million below the 2010 funding level.

I think this is has something to do with Schenectady not getting sewage treatment funds. A falling deficit, while wasting money and simultaneously allowing America's cities to fall to ruin, is not something to brag about, if it is true.
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ObamaCare, A Highly Moral Piece of Legislation

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This is not health care for deadbeats, as many Republicans assume. It is a highly
moral piece of legislation: the people most affected will be the working poor and lower middle
class, people who have jobs, often at small businesses, but don't have health care.
(The unemployed and unemployable poor already have health care via Medicaid.) It is
a matter of simple fairness that if  we, as a society, provide health insurance to those
who don't work, we also provide it to those who do."


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http://swampland.time.com/2013/10/27/sanity-on-obamacare/?iid=sl-main-lead


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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That's Joe Klein's opinion, he doesn't really know what he's talking about. The tip-off is he's still talking about the Republicans, like this is a political issue, which it isn't. I am not impressed.
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It is a matter of simple fairness that if  we I, as a society individual, provide pay for health insurance to those who don't work, we I also provide pay for it to those who do."


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Quoted from CICERO
It is a matter of simple fairness that if  we I, as a society individual, provide pay for health insurance to those who don't work, we I also provide pay for it to those who do."


I I and I, never we or us.  Cissy is an I.  He wants everything for himself
but won't give anything to his fellow citizen.  

Gimme Gimme Gimme!  I got mine, screw you.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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I work for a company that I have put time in to earn my healthcare benefit just like my hourly wage now YOU want to take it
and share my sweat with someone else so I lose my benefit that I worked for, even after paying for MY OWN schooling to
get the job I have.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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We've all heard the Rabid Right's lie that "ObamaCare will fail because the young won't sign up for it"!
From a very Red State, Kentucky, the numbers prove that the Right is (as usual) Wrong!
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In Kentucky, about a third of folks going on Medicaid and getting qualified
health care plans are under 35 years old. That's what's going to happen
around this country. People are going to sign up for this. it will take a
while to get it in process, but I guarantee we'll make it work because it's
good for the American people.

Kentucky's Governor Steve Beshear


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I hope all the young 35 and under sign up for Medicaid.
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not quite...
The "rate" of annual increase of the annual deficit spending over the previous is lower, yes...but the actual total annual deficit continues to go up...
It's the same BS argument that Dems use when they scream about "cuts" to programs... to them a reduction in the rate of increase is a cut...

That's like saying you got a cut in your wage because you only a 2% salary this year when you received a 5% increase the previous year....


"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
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Deficit Definition

The amount by which expenses exceed income or costs outstrip revenues.
Deficit essentially refers to the difference between cash inflows and outflows.

And Under Obama, that rate is FALLING. IS that a good thing or a bad thing???


Republican TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH & G.Worst Bush's Iraq Oil War are the reason we are in so much debt!


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Obama admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
By Lisa Myers and Hannah Rappleye

President Obama repeatedly assured Americans that after the Affordable Care Act became law, people who liked their health insurance would be able to keep it. But millions of Americans are getting or are about to get cancellation letters for their health insurance under Obamacare, say experts, and the Obama administration has known that for at least three years

Four sources deeply involved in the Afforrdable Care Act tell NBC NEWS that 50 to 75 percent of the 14 million consumers who buy their insurance individually can expect to receive a “cancellation” letter or the equivalent over the next year because their existing policies don’t meet the standards mandated by the new health care law. One expert predicts that number could reach as high as 80 percent. And all say that many of those forced to buy pricier new policies will experience “sticker shock.”  


None of this should come as a shock to the Obama administration. The law states that policies in effect as of March 23, 2010 will be “grandfathered,” meaning consumers can keep those policies even though they don’t meet requirements of the new health care law. But the Department of Health and Human Services then wrote regulations that narrowed that provision, by saying that if any part of a policy was significantly changed since that date -- the deductible, co-pay, or benefits, for example -- the policy would not be grandfathered.                             http://investigations.nbcnews......ealth-insurance?lite
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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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young people don't get 'sick' they get hurt.....maybe they will do something about the car insurance vig and actuaries.....

I never had health insurance until I was almost 30...I paid as I went and paid cash.....that's how you control value...you see it
you buy it and you pay it....

hand over that responsibility to some 'value makers' and what you hold in your hand is now smoke and mirrors....

we'll never understand the mountain of cost/rip-offs/political fodder etc etc....that we have just created...all under the guise of
fear....

got my first robo call from the insurance company....anyone else?

who's lining up for a mandatory colonoscopy because...'geez, the numbers I've been twerking with show that you MIGHT have
colon cancer because of your age."

Preventive health services for adults
Most health plans must cover a set of preventive services like shots and screening tests at no cost to you. This includes Marketplace private insurance plans.

Preventive care benefits

Preventive care helps you stay healthy. A doctor isn’t someone to see only when you’re sick. Doctors also provide services that help keep you healthy.

Free preventive services

All Marketplace plans and many other plans must cover the following list of preventive services without charging you a copayment or coinsurance. This is true even if you haven’t met your yearly deductible. This applies only when these services are delivered by a network provider.

Abdominal Aortic Aneurysm one-time screening for men of specified ages who have ever smoked
Alcohol Misuse screening and counseling
Aspirin use to prevent cardiovascular disease for men and women of certain ages
Blood Pressure screening for all adults
Cholesterol screening for adults of certain ages or at higher risk
Colorectal Cancer screening for adults over 50
Depression screening for adults
Diabetes (Type 2) screening for adults with high blood pressure
Diet counseling for adults at higher risk for chronic disease
HIV screening for everyone ages 15 to 65, and other ages at increased risk
Immunization vaccines for adults--doses, recommended ages, and recommended populations vary:

Hepatitis A
Hepatitis B
Herpes Zoster
Human Papillomavirus
Influenza (Flu Shot)
Measles, Mumps, Rubella
Meningococcal
Pneumococcal
Tetanus, Diphtheria, Pertussis
Varicella
Obesity screening and counseling for all adults

Sexually Transmitted Infection (STI) prevention counseling for adults at higher risk
Syphilis screening for all adults at higher risk
Tobacco Use screening for all adults and cessation interventions for tobacco users


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Nearly 5 in 10 (46 percent, or 1.3 million) uninsured young adults in single-person households
who may be eligible for the Health Insurance Marketplace may be able to purchase a bronze plan
for $50 per month or less after tax credits, based on analysis of data in 34 states.
In these states, a total of 1.9 million young adults, representing nearly 7 in 10 (66 percent)
of the potentially Marketplace-eligible uninsured ages 18 to 34,2 may be able to pay $100 or
less for coverage in 2014.


http://aspe.hhs.gov/health/reports/2013/UninsuredYoungAdults/rb_uninsuredyoungadults.pdf


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why does our system need those programs anyhow? because of our civilization that you worship:

remove the man from the land and he starves....

those who control the food supply control the masses
those who control the trade control the masses
those who control the land control the masses
those who control the water control the masses
those who control the fiat control the masses
those who control the knowledge control the masses

AND NOW FOR YOU ACCEPTANCE AND WORSHIP AT THE LEADERS ALTER:

those who control the actuarial valuations control WHAT YOUR WORTH............

I hope you're happy...because voting doesn't change ANY OF THIS.......it's a circular conversation with no solutions
except 'this time we're going to take it from these people to give to these people for a couple of generations until they
die off, as long as the status quo keeps the same'


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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