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Libertarian4life
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Priceless!

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It should be mandatory that all local, state and federal employees and retirees be forced to enroll in Obamacare.

We'll call it leading by example.
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IF YOU ARE 65 YEARS OLD, AND DON'T WANT TO RETIRE, AND WANT TO KEEP YOUR PRESENT HEALTH INSURANCE VIA YOUR EMPLOYER...........YOU CAN'T..........YOU HAVE TO TAKE MEDICARE!!!! And since you are still working and not taking your social security.....gov almighty will be sending you a bill every 3 months....PLUS.....you have to get a supplemental health insurance policy along side your medicare!!

Yup....extortion!!!



WOW, that's not what our company is telling us, so this is very confusing.
Can you provide link to this informatin so we can open dialog with our company to discuss what they
are telling us versus what you have presented.


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JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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WOW, that's not what our company is telling us, so this is very confusing.
Can you provide link to this informatin so we can open dialog with our company to discuss what they
are telling us versus what you have presented.

A link?
Lots of luck with that one.  But Bumbler knows a guy who knows a guy who used to work for the
department of defense (all very top secret) who's cousin is in the Military (again top secret) and
who knows all of this  information.  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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65-year-olds at small employers may be forced to use Medicare
March 13, 2013 4:40PM

The rules state that if the company has 20 or more employees, it must allow those over 65 to remain in the plan. But with fewer than 20 employees, the company can drop you from its plan, or require that you enroll in Medicare Part A, the free portion of Medicare, during the initial enrollment period. Then the company plan would become a secondary provider. And if the company plan provides a comparable drug benefit, there would be no need to sign up for Medicare Part D.

You can delay enrolling in Medicare, without penalty, if you have comparable health insurance through your employer or your spouse’s employer. Even if you plan to delay Social Security, don’t ignore Medicare. If you don’t have other employer insurance there are huge penalties.

The time to enroll in Medicare is in the three-month period before you reach age 65. There is actually a seven-month initial enrollment period, but you don’t want to test that extension. Medicare coverage won’t start until after your birth month and you could forget to enroll. You will pay a 10 percent increase in your monthly Part B premium for every full year that enrollment is delayed — if you do not have comparable insurance from your employer. And there is an additional penalty for late enrollment in Part D.

Plus, there’s an issue that few realize: If you sign up for a Medicare supplement plan within the first six months of eligibility, you cannot be turned down from even the most comprehensive plan because of your health situation. But if you delay signing up for a supplement plan after entering Medicare, you could be restricted from the plans that offer the most coverage.


http://www.suntimes.com/busine.....to-use-medicare.html


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Basically, the answer is that you do not have to give up your employee benefit plan,
and can delay entering Medicare until you retire. But there is a possibility that your company could
drop you from its employee benefits plan when you reach age 65, so you should ask about their rules.


From Cissy's link


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From Cissy's link


Yes, the employer gives up the private plan for you.  Small employers under 20 employees are not offering their group plan to seniors 65 or older.  They are pushing them onto Medicare.


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We checked with the company's insurance broker.

They told us that a company with less than 20 employees......any that are 65+ must take medicare.

Companies with over 20 employees.......any that are 65+ can keep their employees health insurance coverage with no penalty when they do decide to retire/take medicare.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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ObamaCare in NY is a Success!


New York Times/ Health Exchange: A One-Month Checkup
http://nyti.ms/1aQZVme


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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We checked with the company's insurance broker.

They told us that a company with less than 20 employees......any that are 65+ must take medicare.

Companies with over 20 employees.......any that are 65+ can keep their employees health insurance coverage with no penalty when they do decide to retire/take medicare.


NEWS FLASH !!!!!
When you turn 65 you have to register with Social Security and at that
time you can receive Meicare part A FOR NO COST....that has been in place
for ages and has nothing to do with ACA....

So your original statement
"IF YOU ARE 65 YEARS OLD, AND DON'T WANT TO RETIRE, AND WANT TO KEEP YOUR PRESENT HEALTH INSURANCE VIA YOUR EMPLOYER...........YOU CAN'T..........YOU HAVE TO TAKE MEDICARE!!!! "
IS INACCURATE !!!!!
Why am I not surprised!!!!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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Hi everyone!
I thought I would chime in and tell you my story as it is still unfolding. I work for a small company that has less than 20 employees. The company offers C.D.P.H.P. December 1 is when our new contract takes effect for 2014. I will be 65 years old in December 2013. I was told that because I was turning 65 in December, I had to take Medicare and couldn't take the insurance coverage offered by my employer. I decided to call Social Security and ask them. She told me that I had to apply for medicare since Iworked for a small company of less than 20 employees. I want to continue to work and not apply for Social Security. So I didn't know how I would pay for Medicare, because it is usually deducted from our Social Security check. She said that Social Security would send me a bill every 3 months. That cost will be $104 a month. She also told me that I had to purchase a separate supplement insurance policy that can not be a part of what the employer provides. So I did sign up online for my medicare. I haven't looked into a supplemental policy yet. So I have nothing to report on that. I don't know if this is better or not. I'm new to this. I will get back to everyone when I find out more about the supplemental coverage.
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Hi everyone!
I thought I would chime in and tell you my story as it is still unfolding. I work for a small company that has less than 20 employees. The company offers C.D.P.H.P. December 1 is when our new contract takes effect for 2014. I will be 65 years old in December 2013. I was told that because I was turning 65 in December, I had to take Medicare and couldn't take the insurance coverage offered by my employer. I decided to call Social Security and ask them. She told me that I had to apply for medicare since Iworked for a small company of less than 20 employees. I want to continue to work and not apply for Social Security. So I didn't know how I would pay for Medicare, because it is usually deducted from our Social Security check. She said that Social Security would send me a bill every 3 months. That cost will be $104 a month. She also told me that I had to purchase a separate supplement insurance policy that can not be a part of what the employer provides. So I did sign up online for my medicare. I haven't looked into a supplemental policy yet. So I have nothing to report on that. I don't know if this is better or not. I'm new to this. I will get back to everyone as I find out more about the supplemental coverage.


Thanks Joann


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Joann, Look at onine insurance that provides advantage plans for Schdy
They will usually offer 3  Medicare Advantage plans.
Base plan is $0 out of pocket cost
Next up is about $80/mth
Next up is about $125/mth

Differences appear to be copays and out of pocket maxs.
I know several people that have had the $0 base pland for several years
and are very happy with them.  Also, if you con't like your plan and
want to change to a different one, you can.

Medicare Part A and B, with the mid Advantage plan for me is less
than $200/mth and is better coverage, less out of pocket and less
copay than employer insurance...am saving approx. $70/mth by going this way.


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NEWS FLASH !!!!!
When you turn 65 you have to register with Social Security and at that
time you can receive Meicare part A FOR NO COST....that has been in place
for ages and has nothing to do with ACA....

So your original statement
"IF YOU ARE 65 YEARS OLD, AND DON'T WANT TO RETIRE, AND WANT TO KEEP YOUR PRESENT HEALTH INSURANCE VIA YOUR EMPLOYER...........YOU CAN'T..........YOU HAVE TO TAKE MEDICARE!!!! "
IS INACCURATE !!!!!
Why am I not surprised!!!!


EVERYONE WILL BE 'MEDICARE'.....water runs downhill......SHOW ME THE $$ TRAIL.....these are just speed bumps to
the end game.......

SS/MEDICARE/IRS......go tuck yourself in now and enjoy your sleep


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Joann, Look at onine insurance that provides advantage plans for Schdy
They will usually offer 3  Medicare Advantage plans.
Base plan is $0 out of pocket cost
Next up is about $80/mth
Next up is about $125/mth

Differences appear to be copays and out of pocket maxs.
I know several people that have had the $0 base pland for several years
and are very happy with them.  Also, if you con't like your plan and
want to change to a different one, you can.

Medicare Part A and B, with the mid Advantage plan for me is less
than $200/mth and is better coverage, less out of pocket and less
copay than employer insurance...am saving approx. $70/mth by going this way.


it's all about the actuarial science....the insurance companies/government all have this at their finger tips....medicare
will pay for medical interventions after a person meets certain criteria that are based on actuarial science/theory...
the folks DO NOT have the cards counted and depending on what you buy bronze/silver/gold/platinum or what ever
people do not have a crystal ball....and being subsidized is also a misnomer....I checked out mine (although I prefer
NOT to be babysat) and miss it by $1000.00...WHO THE FU(K gets to render that cast?

SS/MEDICARE/IRS.....BED PARTNERS FOR THE GOOD OF ALL....hahahahahahahahahahahaha

insurance IS NOT healthcare.....the politicians FAIL in the language dept...they are nothing more than the next best
advertising agency....

kinda like 'DRINK MILK'


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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