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In case you missed it...
Regardless of whether you're a supporter or opponent of Obamacare, you may have missed an important "ruling" from the U.S. Supreme Court earlier this week that resulted in Obamacare logging a key victory.


Source: White House on Flickr.

The case, Coons vs. Lew, was initially brought to court in 2011 by business owner Nick Coons and orthopedic surgeon Dr. Eric Novack. The two, with the help of additional legal backing, alleged that the Independent Payment Advisory Board, or IPAB, would trim Medicare costs and potentially hurt their business by instituting reimbursement levels that wouldn't cover their own expenses. These allegations are where the term "Obamacare death panel" emerged, as the 15-member government panel would be in charge of potentially cutting Medicare rates in the future.

Additionally, plaintiffs argue, none of the 15-member panel has been appointed yet (meaning the Obama administration and the Department of Health and Human Services would handle all 15 appointments), and their reimbursement rulings wouldn't be challengeable in court. The plaintiffs in this case also went after the context of the individual mandate, attempting to overturn the actionable penalty aspect of the ACA.

In August 2014, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco dismissed the case by noting that that the IPAB didn't do any direct harm to either Nick Coons' business or Dr. Eric Novack. Furthermore, the Court ruled that the earliest point at which the IPAB would assert its power and potentially reduce Medicare reimbursements would be in 2019.

Earlier this week the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the decision of the San Francisco-based Appeals Court by declining to hear the so-called "death panel" case, confirming that the existence of the IPAB isn't sufficient grounds to overturn or modify Obamacare.The high court also declined to hear any challenges to the individual mandate.

This case was particularly interesting from the aspect of diagnostic device makers, as they're just as likely to be affected by Medicare cuts five years or more from now.
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Quoted from BuckStrider


Yes. The Persians have repeatedly stated over and over and over again that they want Israel wiped off the map. They will do this in the name of Allah.

As I stated above, you don't need a super fortified underground facility and heavy water reactors to generate electricity.  



Oh...So the Persians are actually telegraphing their intentions of building a nuclear weapon to wipe their neighbor(Israel) off the map, which has 200 nuclear weapons of their own.  So much for the element of surprise. These Iranians really have to be the stupidest civilization on the planet.  


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the ONLY reason the government has these 'cute' little conversations that we THINK have meaning is so we may go about our
lives without so much fear and continue to spend/charge/vote/have babies etc etc.....at a rate that keeps us working like the
imperial war machine that we are.....

how do you get soldiers without a 'war' or without a need for 'protection'.....but the most important reason----$$$$$$$$$$$


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Put this in the category of "no one should be surprised"

CNN - Iran will sign a final nuclear agreement only if economic sanctions against the nation are removed on the first day of the deal's implementation, President Hassan Rouhani said Thursday.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/09/politics/iran-nuclear-bill/index.html

If Obama folds to these demands, it's North Korea part II...



"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
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Quoted from 55tbird
Put this in the category of "no one should be surprised"

CNN - Iran will sign a final nuclear agreement only if economic sanctions against the nation are removed on the first day of the deal's implementation, President Hassan Rouhani said Thursday.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/09/politics/iran-nuclear-bill/index.html

If Obama folds to these demands, it's North Korea part II...



LOL!!!

It already is. Iran doesn't dismantle sh!t.





"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for
GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'

Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'

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Remember all the warmongering and fear being spread before we invaded Iraq.
All lies.
Now we get to do it all over again with the fear being spread about a NUKE Iran.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Remember all the warmongering and fear being spread before we invaded Iraq.
All lies.
Now we get to do it all over again with the fear being spread about a NUKE Iran.


EXACTLY!!!!!!!!


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Yet another reason to love ObamaCare:

Quoted Text
In 2010, just after the health care law passed, the government’s official actuaries at the Centers
for Medicare and Medicaid Services predicted that total national health spending for the five-year
period starting in 2014 would be $23.6 trillion. Using the latest data, Holahan and McMorrow have
calculated that spending over that interval will probably be $21 trillion -- in other words, the total
will be $2.6 trillion less than the government's number crunchers thought it would be.




Thank You President Barack Hussein Obama!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Actuarial science is the discipline that applies mathematical and statistical methods to assess risk in insurance, finance and other industries and professions. Actuaries are professionals who are qualified in this field through education and experience. In many countries, actuaries must demonstrate their competence by passing a series of rigorous professional examinations.

Actuarial science includes a number of interrelated subjects, including probability, mathematics, statistics, finance, economics, financial economics, and computer programming. Historically, actuarial science used deterministic models in the construction of tables and premiums. The science has gone through revolutionary changes during the last 30 years due to the proliferation of high speed computers and the union of stochastic actuarial models with modern financial theory (Frees 1990).


I don't think you understand what you are reading.....they will change the qualifiers for certain medical interventions. ie: putting them
off longer, changing the qualifiers so that a different answer is arrived at....

projection is like saying affordable.....THEY DON'T KNOW but they CAN shave off medical interventions. Don't think this isn't happening
now....those 'death panels' are in the hospitals. Doctors have ceased to be the hope cheerleaders and have now become the
ticket takers for whatever ride this new 'health care' system will allow you on.


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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It's called transfer the cost of healthcare from the government and put the cost on the patient.
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Obama Holds Historic Meeting with Castro

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President Obama and Cuban President Raúl Castro “symbolically ended more than five
decades of hostility between their nations, with a meeting on Saturday on the sidelines
of a summit of countries from across the Americas,” the Wall Street Journal reports.

“It was the first substantive meeting between U.S. and Cuban presidents since 1956.”


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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WATCH: Terrified ‘TeaBagger’ realizes he could lose Obamacare
if GOP wins in 2016




This Is Hilarious!!!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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and currently it is in the process of making some more equal than others and enacting laws that infringe upon sovereign
humans insidiously. As a collective we don't know what happiness is anymore other than to compare ourselves to others as
to what we think we 'deserve' or what our 'fair share' is.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Washington Post:
“Here’s a talking point for Democrats: President Obama’s executive actions on immigration will
generate an extra $845 million in taxes annually from immigrants living here illegally. But that’s
just a drop in the bucket compared with the $11.8 billion they already pay.”



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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