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...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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LOL.....Says 'Comrade' Sanders, who's net worth went from (ca.) $140k in '04 to (ca.) $500k in '12....A 228% increase in a mere 8 years ( avg. 29% growth per year, while the "99%" lost 0.94%).

Wonder how that happened?

( http://ballotpedia.org/Bernie_Sanders )


Oh, and nobody cares what Democrats say.



I wonder if Buck would believe Sen Sanders if he had gone broke in that same time period???


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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CNN/ORC poll places Obama at 48 percent — which ties Ronald Reagan’s 48 percent approval rating at the end of
his sixth year in office, but still places the current President well behind Bill Clinton, who enjoyed a whopping 67 percent
job approval rating.


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how are/is the question asked?

narrow/wide/open ended/closed ended????

approval of what?
approval in what time frame reference, yours/his?

the polls are nothing more than Mad Men selling boxed cereals and calling them healthy.....

we might just as well ask "how do you find Henry the VIII?"


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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only posting this because I thought it was funny....


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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Obama, the Best Economic President of Modern Times
(Forbes)

Economically, President Obama’s administration has outperformed President Reagan’s
in all commonly watched categories.  Simultaneously the current administration has
reduced the deficit, which skyrocketed under Reagan.  Additionally, Obama has reduced
federal employment, which grew under Reagan (especially when including military
personnel,) and truly delivered a “smaller government.”  Additionally, the current
administration has kept inflation low, even during extreme international upheaval,
failure of foreign economies and a dramatic slowdown in the European economy.


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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This Is Why ObamaCare Matters:


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Tax dollars at work: 87% of new Obamacare users given federal aid
By Paul Bedard | December 30, 2014 | 11:43 am \

Some 87 percent of people who just signed up for Obamacare are getting financial assistance to lower their premiums, according to the Department of Health and Human Services.

That is a jump from 80 percent during the last open enrollment period.

The department did not say how much it was offering to new Obamcare enrollees or what the total bill to taxpayers would be.

RELATED: Doctors demand Feds provide birth control access to all women

From HHS:

A report released by the Department of Health and Human Services today provides the first detailed analysis of enrollment in the Marketplaces for the first month of the 2015 open enrollment period. About 87 percent of people who selected health insurance plans through HealthCare.gov for coverage beginning Jan. 1, 2015 were determined eligible for financial assistance to lower their monthly premiums, compared to 80 percent of enrollees who selected plans over a similar period last year. In addition, more than 4 million people in both the state and federal Marketplaces signed up for the first time or reenrolled in coverage for 2015 during the first month of open enrollment. That includes more than 3.4 million people who selected a plan in the 37 states that are using the HealthCare.gov platform for 2015, and more than 600,000 consumers who selected plans in the 14 states that are operating their own Marketplace platform for 2015.http://www.washingtonexaminer......-aid/article/2557993
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Tax dollars at work: 87% of new Obamacare users given federal aid
By Paul Bedard | December 30, 2014 | 11:43 am \

Some 87 percent of people who just signed up for Obamacare are getting financial assistance to lower their premiums, according to the Department of Health and Human Services.

That is a jump from 80 percent during the last open enrollment period.

The department did not say how much it was offering to new Obamcare enrollees or what the total bill to taxpayers would be.

RELATED: Doctors demand Feds provide birth control access to all women

From HHS:

A report released by the Department of Health and Human Services today provides the first detailed analysis of enrollment in the Marketplaces for the first month of the 2015 open enrollment period. About 87 percent of people who selected health insurance plans through HealthCare.gov for coverage beginning Jan. 1, 2015 were determined eligible for financial assistance to lower their monthly premiums, compared to 80 percent of enrollees who selected plans over a similar period last year. In addition, more than 4 million people in both the state and federal Marketplaces signed up for the first time or reenrolled in coverage for 2015 during the first month of open enrollment. That includes more than 3.4 million people who selected a plan in the 37 states that are using the HealthCare.gov platform for 2015, and more than 600,000 consumers who selected plans in the 14 states that are operating their own Marketplace platform for 2015.http://www.washingtonexaminer......-aid/article/2557993


Lets see... Just who is it who wouldn't have any health care insurance???
The Rich?  Of course they are insured.
The middle class with good jobs?
Most have health insurance with their employer.
So who are the Uninsured Americans?
They come from all walks of life and all incomes but the majority are obviously the poor, or near poor.
The people government is meant to help.
Of course the taxpayer has always funded the health care for the poor, only it was done with little or no
preventative care and often at the most expensive venue, the hospital ER.


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Lets see... Just who is it who wouldn't have any health care insurance???
The Rich?  Of course they are insured.
The middle class with good jobs?
Most have health insurance with their employer.
So who are the Uninsured Americans?
They come from all walks of life and all incomes but the majority are obviously the poor, or near poor.
The people government is meant to help.
Of course the taxpayer has always funded the health care for the poor, only it was done with little or no
preventative care and often at the most expensive venue, the hospital ER.


*Sigh*

Whenever Boxy starts posting 'facts', it most likely follows one or both of these formulas....

A) It totally follows the Dem party 'talking points'.

B) It's bullshit.

First off the ACA has no cost controls in it and will not be affordable.

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So what’s different this time? Why are we closer than we’ve ever
been before? Because there are no cost controls in these proposals.
Because this bill’s about coverage. Which is good! Why should we
hold 48 million uninsured people hostage to the fact that we don’t
yet know how to control costs in a politically acceptable way?
Let’s get the people covered and then let’s do cost control.


Second, there is no evidence that 'preventive care' controls costs

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Preventive care; great idea, it will improve our health, but
there’s no evidence it will actually save us any money.


Third, the only way to control costs is to deny something the patient wants.

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The real substance of cost control is all about a single thing: telling
patients they can’t have something they want.
It’s about telling patients, “That surgery doesn’t do any good,
so if you want it you have to pay the full cost.” It’s basically
about saying that we as a society are going to have a minimal
insurance package that reimburses effective treatments but
that makes people pay on their own for ineffective treatments.


Oh right, the quotes. They come straight from the guy that wrote the bill....Mr. Jonny Gruber himself, giving a policy brief at Syracuse University in Oct. 2009.

You might want to read it..... https://www.maxwell.syr.edu/uploadedFiles/cpr/events/cpr_lectures/pb41.pdf







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*Sigh*
Whenever Boxy starts posting 'facts', it most likely follows one or both of these formulas....
A) It totally follows the Dem party 'talking points'.
B) It's bullshit.
First off the ACA has no cost controls in it and will not be affordable.
Second, there is no evidence that 'preventive care' controls costs
Third, the only way to control costs is to deny something the patient wants.



Where would Bucky be without Gruber???

Do you really think that a doctor's visit is the same cost as an ER visit???  
Before ObamaCare, these uninsured Americans were often getting their health care at the ER and at
the taxpayer expense.  WE WERE PAYING MUCH OF THE BILL BEFORE SO IF A DR VISIT IS CHEAPER
THAN THE ER, THEN IT IS A COST SAVINGS TO THE TAXPAYER.
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What is the cost of ObamaCare?
The new health care law, has a massive impact on health care costs. ObamaCare’s cost is estimated at
up to net cost of $1.36 trillion dollars by 2024. Although ObamaCare’s net costs are in the trillions, the
law actually reduces the growth in health care spending by tens of billions each year, reduces health
insurance costs for many Americans, helps to insure tens of millions, and is estimated to result in an
overall net decrease of the deficit.

By the way... what exactly is the Republican Plan for Health Care coverage in America???
Oh yea... they still don't have one.


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Where would Bucky be without Gruber???


LOL...WTF is that supposed to mean?  He's the one that wrote AND exposed this scam. I can't help it if your a rabid Grubagger and one of the stupid Americans he was talking about.

How about ask the question of why hospitals charge $20 per Tylenol caplet.  

BTW, how's that $2500 cost cut that Obama promised, because insurance has gone up an average of 41% for everyone.

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By the way... what exactly is the Republican Plan for Health Care coverage in America???
Oh yea... they still don't have one.


You'll have to ask Harry Reid that question, since there are a few of them that were buried on his desk over the last 5 years.







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What is the cost of ObamaCare?
The new health care law, has a massive impact on health care costs. ObamaCare’s cost is estimated at
up to net cost of $1.36 trillion dollars by 2024. Although ObamaCare’s net costs are in the trillions, the
law actually reduces the growth in health care spending by tens of billions each year, reduces health
insurance costs for many Americans, helps to insure tens of millions, and is estimated to result in an
overall net decrease of the deficit.


Oh, you forgot to put a link on your 'facts'. I looked it up and found it to be a totally non partisan site :rolleyes:

Oh wait...It's all lies.

http://obamacarefacts.com/costof-obamacare/




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