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...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Does everyone ignore senders posts, or is it just me?


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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As the chart shows, President Obama has taken us through the Bush Economic Meltdown and still managed
to add 5.7 million jobs.

If you look at the total jobs from all previous administrations in the chart:
5 Dems have added 38.3 million jobs,
While
5 Reps have added 31.7 million.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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As the chart shows, President Obama has taken us through the Bush Economic Meltdown and still managed
to add 5.7 million jobs.

If you look at the total jobs from all previous administrations in the chart:
5 Dems have added 38.3 million jobs,
While
5 Reps have added 31.7 million.


http://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/hold-jobs-report-wasnt-so-great-after-all-n262641



"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
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The current recovery has created more private sector jobs than the 2001-2007 recovery.
But in fairness to the Bush years, the labor force was smaller back then and Bush was working
from a smaller base. So of course fewer jobs were created. What you really want to look at is
jobs as a percent of the total labor force. And here's what you get:



The Obama recovery isn't just a little bit better than the Bush recovery. It's miles better.
But here's the interesting thing. This chart looks only at private sector employment. If
you want to make Bush look better, you can look at total employment instead. It's
still not a great picture, but it's a little better:



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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spin it anyway you want, the facts are this...

Workforce participation is at a 36 year low.
The jobs that being created are predominantly low paying service jobs..indicated by the stagnant household income figures...
....and how many of those jobs are full time?

The Bottom line of the above is this...

You have less people in the workforce, making less, supporting more people out of it.
That is unsustainable without an increase in taxes, reduction of services, or most likely both. The math does not lie.


"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
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they are expecting a major fall.
ex....folks going to banks and pulling their money out.

Just ask a bank manager.
they are already making provisions.

especially the big ones...bank America, morgan...etc

big changes coming in the 'bank market place/investments'.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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what kind of jobs?


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Thank You President Obama:    3. Obama is destroying the Democratic Party before our eyes! Dennis Moore had never lost a race. Evan Bayh had never lost a race. Byron Dorgan had never lost a race. Mary Landreu and Harry Reid - soon to be GONE! These are just a handful of the Democrats whose political careers Obama has destroyed. By the end of 2014, dozens more are gone. Just think, in December of 2008 the Democrats were on the rise. In the last two election cycles, they had picked up 14 Senate seats and 52 House seats. The press was touting the death of the Conservative Movement and the Republican Party. However, in just one year, Obama put a stop to all of this and gave the House - and the Senate - back to the Republicans.
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what kind of jobs?


It doesn't matter to Boxy... he's retired...and he spends time on here berating some people for being selfish,,,


"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
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he's retired.....really? interesting.....if Box is thinking 'things are the same', well.......again, Box can rearrange the deck chairs on the
Titanic....

ACA is about to smack Box's a$$ around.....there's more to come, only Nancy Pelosi hasn't a clue as to what.....that's what voting
gets you......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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THIS IS AT THE TOP OF THE ACA LIST:

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What Is an EPO?

A type of managed care health insurance, EPO stands for exclusive provider organization. EPOs got this name because you have to get your health care exclusively from health care providers the EPO contracts with or the EPO won’t pay for the care.

Like their cousins, PPOs and HMOs, EPO health plans have cost-containment rules about how you get your health care. If you don’t follow your EPO’s rules when you get health care services, it won't pay for the care.

An EPO health plan's rules center around two basic cost-containment techniques:

Where and from whom you get health care services is limited to providers that the EPO has negotiated discounts with.
Health care services are limited to things that are medically necessary or that make your health care costs lower in the long run, like preventive care.
How Does EPO Health Insurance Work?

Cost-sharing requirements in an EPO are low.
Cost-sharing like deductibles, copayments, and coinsurance are kept to a minimum with an EPO. In fact, some EPOs don’t require any deductible or coinsurance at all, and just charge a small copayment at the time of service. Because of its low cost-sharing and low premiums, an EPO is one of the most economical health insurance choices.


FOR WHOM DOES THIS BENEFIT????????

Box....it's coming at you like a freight train and you can't even see it........


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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It’s ultimately your responsibility to know which providers are in-network with your EPO. For example, you can’t assume that, just because a lab is down the hall from your EPO doctor’s office, that lab is in-network with your EPO. You have to check. Likewise, don’t assume that the imaging facility that did your mammogram last year is still in-network with your EPO this year. Provider networks change. If you make that assumption and you’re wrong, you’ll have to pay the entire mammogram bill yourself.



NEVER SCHEDULE AN APPOINTMENT FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR......
THIS IS WHY THE 5, 10, 15 MONTH WAITING TIMES.......

here's the cake....now we get to eat it.....

JUST AVOID THE MD....

REMEMBER HEALTH CARE IS not HEALTH INSURANCE just as MEDICAL CARE IS not HEALTH INSURANCE......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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It doesn't matter to Boxy... he's retired...and he spends time on here berating some people for being selfish,,,


YUP!  Happily retired for over 16 years!!!
While I was working I knew several people who were self employed.  They couldn't afford health insurance
of course, but they had a spouse who worked for a large corporation or who worked for the state and
had their health insurance coverage through the spouse.
This meant that the self employee status was dependant on a working spouse with health benefits.  No
working spouse, no self employment.  
That system carried on until recently when ObamaCare meant that a self employed person, say a roofer
or a small contractor, or a number of entrepreneurial endeavors, could be possible for all.  
The result of ObamaCare is that a huge number of people now are free to do their own thing with out
being tied to a large corporation or municipality for health care.
From Forbes:
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There are untold millions of would-be entrepreneurs in the U.S. hanging on, in quiet
desperation, to deadening corporate jobs–because they can’t afford to leave.  Millions who
understand the catastrophic consequences of boldly heading out to uncharted entrepreneurial
territory… only to have someone in the family develop a chronic illness or life-threatening
condition

"Obamacare Is An Entrepreneur's Best Friend"
http://www.forbes.com/sites/micahsolomon/2013/09/24/entrehealthcare/

Someone in my own family worked for a large corporation and planned a startup to begin as soon as they
could get ObamaCare coverage.  Their NEW STARTUP is now thriving, thanks to ObamaCare.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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