I know what a "hate" crime is, according to Congress. All the hate legislation is about is pacifying a particular interest group. The legislation is not about "hate", only certain reasons for it. Example? The beating of the SF Giants baseball fan by two LA Dodger fans a couple of years ago. The is NO question "hate" was involved, but no hate crime charges. The victim was white and the perps were black. Now, if the roles were reversed, I'd bet you a weeks pay you would have seen hate crime charges.
Among the single-bias hate crime incidents in 2011, there were 3,645 victims of racially motivated hate crime.
71.9 percent were victims of an offender’s anti-black bias. 16.3 percent were victims of an anti-white bias.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
REALLY???? I would like to see a credible report that presents those numbers...... It's sad that this type of activity does fall along racial lines, but I believe you are wrong on this!
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
You've made that perfectly clear Cic... you hate uniformed (costumed) Americans, but absolutely love those in civilian dress... like the Sept. 11th WTC attackers. They wore no 'costume' but dressed much like you.
Believing that no man is worth more than another is not hatred.
Absolutely not true. Most drug dealers are white. Most drug users are white. Most prisoners are black. Racist targeted enforcement is the reason the prisons are full.
Wrong again L4Life, (No surprise there)
A contributing factor to United States' spike in the number of prisoners is the War on Drugs, formally initiated by Richard Nixon with the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of 1970 and avidly pursued by Ronald Reagan. Incarceration for drug offenses has increased 12-fold from 40,000 in 1981 to nearly 500,000 by 2010, accounting for two-thirds of the rise in the federal inmate population since 1985.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Among the single-bias hate crime incidents in 2011, there were 3,645 victims of racially motivated hate crime.
71.9 percent were victims of an offender’s anti-black bias. 16.3 percent were victims of an anti-white bias.
bottom line, there were 3,645 victims that would have ALL been covered under EXISTING , pre-hate crime laws. The hate crime laws give crimes based on hate increased punishment and therefore increased importance than an identical crime were hate is not a factor...its as simple as that. God forbid you are never in a position to have a crime against a loved one diminished as far as punishment of the perp because your loved one was not part of an interest group.
"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
REALLY???? I would like to see a credible report that presents those numbers...... It's sad that this type of activity does fall along racial lines, but I believe you are wrong on this!
In 1986, the U.S. Congress passed the Anti-Drug Abuse Act of 1986 which, amongst other things, created a 100 to 1 sentencing disparity for crack vs. powder cocaine possession, which some people consider to be a racist law which discriminates against minorities, who are more likely to use crack than powder cocaine. People convicted in federal court of possession of 5 grams of crack cocaine will receive a minimum mandatory sentence of 5 years in federal prison. On the other hand, possession of 500 grams of powder cocaine carries the same sentence. Some other authors, however, have pointed out that the Congressional Black Caucus backed the law, which they say implies that the law cannot be racist.
Crime statistics show that in 1999 in the United States blacks were far more likely to be targeted by law enforcement for drug crimes, and received much stiffer penalties and sentences than whites.
In 1998 there were wide racial disparities in arrests, prosecutions, sentencing and deaths. African-Americans, who only comprised 13% of regular drug users, made up for 35% of drug arrests, 55% of convictions, and 74% of people sent to prison for drug possession crimes. Nationwide African-Americans sent to state prisons for drug offenses 13 times more often than white men, even though they only comprise 13% of regular drug users.
Locally in Schenectady all targeted enforcement is against the black neighborhoods.
They claim it's because that's where they find all the drug dealers and users.
Of course it is. You don't catch white guys while hunting blacks, except by accident.
A contributing factor to United States' spike in the number of prisoners is the War on Drugs, formally initiated by Richard Nixon with the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of 1970 and avidly pursued by Ronald Reagan. Incarceration for drug offenses has increased 12-fold from 40,000 in 1981 to nearly 500,000 by 2010, accounting for two-thirds of the rise in the federal inmate population since 1985.
You posted nothing contradicting anything that I claimed.
I agree the drug war fills the prisons so the cops can live comfortable lives.
They just target black neighborhoods to do it.
Most drug dealers and users are white.
Most imprisoned for drug dealing and using are blacks.
Your retarded logic will say that proves more blacks deal and use drugs, when in reality, more whites use and deal drugs everywhere in the country, but are not targeted by special interest racial profiling police.
bottom line, there were 3,645 victims that would have ALL been covered under EXISTING , pre-hate crime laws. The hate crime laws give crimes based on hate increased punishment and therefore increased importance than an identical crime were hate is not a factor...its as simple as that. God forbid you are never in a position to have a crime against a loved one diminished as far as punishment of the perp because your loved one was not part of an interest group.
It wouldn't be diminished... but instead increased for a similar action that was a hate crime.
This is one of those laws that the Right will always fault... until they are the victim of a hate crime. If Tbird is injured just because he's gay... he'd get it.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
[b]Incarceration for drug offenses has increased 12-fold from 40,000 in 1981 to nearly 500,000 by 2010, accounting for two-thirds of the rise in the federal inmate population since 1985.
LOL! I'm afraid that L4Life is working his way up to another "Rant Fest"... I think I'll miss this one!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
In 1986, the U.S. Congress passed the Anti-Drug Abuse Act of 1986 which, amongst other things, created a 100 to 1 sentencing disparity for crack vs. powder cocaine possession, which some people consider to be a racist law which discriminates against minorities, who are more likely to use crack than powder cocaine. People convicted in federal court of possession of 5 grams of crack cocaine will receive a minimum mandatory sentence of 5 years in federal prison. On the other hand, possession of 500 grams of powder cocaine carries the same sentence. Some other authors, however, have pointed out that the Congressional Black Caucus backed the law, which they say implies that the law cannot be racist.
Crime statistics show that in 1999 in the United States blacks were far more likely to be targeted by law enforcement for drug crimes, and received much stiffer penalties and sentences than whites.
In 1998 there were wide racial disparities in arrests, prosecutions, sentencing and deaths. African-Americans, who only comprised 13% of regular drug users, made up for 35% of drug arrests, 55% of convictions, and 74% of people sent to prison for drug possession crimes. Nationwide African-Americans sent to state prisons for drug offenses 13 times more often than white men, even though they only comprise 13% of regular drug users.
Locally in Schenectady all targeted enforcement is against the black neighborhoods.
They claim it's because that's where they find all the drug dealers and users.
Of course it is. You don't catch white guys while hunting blacks, except by accident.
Quoted from Libertarian4life: Most drug dealers are white.
REALLY???? I would like to see a credible report that presents those numbers...... It's sad that this type of activity does fall along racial lines, but I believe you are wrong on this!
YOU PROVED YOURSELF WRONG: From your link:
Quoted Text
Race There is a clear relationship between race and the type of drug offense committed, which was not seen with the other variables. Black and Asian minorites are more likely to be reported in dealer-related offenses than whites. This holds especially true for Blacks, with 74% reported in conjunction with dealer-related offenses. Since race has a relationship to the type of offense reported, it is possible that the previous tables, if broken out by race, would provide clearer patterns.
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
Most of what drives our high prison population is drug use and drug related crime.
Quoted from Box A Rox
Incarceration for drug offenses has increased 12-fold from 40,000 in 1981 to nearly 500,000 by 2010, accounting for two-thirds of the rise in the federal inmate population since 1985.
LOL! I'm afraid that L4Life is working his way up to another "Rant Fest"... I think I'll miss this one!
Box, you ignorant Baboon, the drug war laws themselves aren't the driving force behind the minority filled prisons.
Really, you seriously think the 350 black prisoners in the county jail deal all the drugs to the 30,00 white people in the city?
Black dealers do in fact get reported more often.
White people consume and sell many times more drugs than blacks.
Blacks are hunted for giant police paychecks.
The white neighbors of the cops are ignored.
It's called racial disparity.
SPRINGFIELD — African Americans in Illinois convicted of low-level, drug-possession charges face prison time at a far greater rate than whites convicted of the same crimes, a state panel disclosed Monday.
The Illinois Disproportionate Justice Impact Study Commission, formed in 2009, found that 19 percent of black defendants charged in 2005 were sentenced to prison after being charged with a low-level drug possession felony.
Only 4 percent of white defendants went to prison under the same charges, the group reported in a newly released study on the issue.
The disparity grew worse in Cook County where black defendants arrested for the low-level charge were eight times more likely to be sentenced to prison than whites, the group found.
“It’s always disappointing to know the true facts,” said Sen. Mattie Hunter (D-Chicago), the panel’s co-chairman and the Senate sponsor of legislation that created the commission to look into incarceration rates between the races.
Despite the disparity, Pamela Rodriguez, president of Treatment Alternatives for Safe Communities, a Chicago-based non-profit that led the commission’s research, said blacks and whites nationally use illegal drugs at roughly the same level.
A federal study in 2008 found that 10.1 percent of all blacks reported using illegal drugs compared to 8.2 percent of all whites.
Several reasons explain the disparity, she said, including economic and educational factors; chiefly, however, blacks are more likely to conduct drug sales in public areas, where police target. “Where you have greater enforcement, you have greater arrests,” Rodriguez said. “Where you have greater arrests, you have greater prosecutions.”
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