Who cares what the motive was when the crime is the same, a murder is a murder, assault is assault. If there is a mandatory sentence for murdering a cop it should be the same for a murder of a plain civilian, how is this a excuse?
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Hate crimes have a different agenda, and thus a different punishment for the crime. A hate crime murder also carries a greater punishment because of the nature of the cause of the crime. Of course you already know this... you're just making excuses again and grasping at any perceived injustice to your anti govt cause!
Liberal malarkey.... DEAD is DEAD... It shouldn't matter what the motive was,it should be the act that matters. Using liberal logic, a murder against a white male is less of concern than a gay black female... and everyone wonders why we will never be one united people...
"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
Liberal malarkey.... DEAD is DEAD... It shouldn't matter what the motive was,it should be the act that matters. Using liberal logic, a murder against a white male is less of concern than a gay black female... and everyone wonders why we will never be one united people...
??? what a strange post. A murder of a gay, black, female or all three is just a murder. If the person was murdered BECAUSE she was a gay black female, and no other reason, then the murder victim is just as dead, but the reason for the murder is not your typical murder causes... so considered as a different type of crime.
For as long as laws have been in our history, punishment as well as deterring crime have been a part of the punishment. 1st degree murder... 2nd degree murder... Manslaughter... the victim is just as dead, but the reason or severity of the criminals reasons for the killing have different punishments... as with hate crimes.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
America has the highest prison population in the world. Crime in the U.S. should be the lowest on the planet.
Most of what drives our high prison population is drug use and drug related crime.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
I am not a legal expert, but I believe the intent is to bring first responders into the same category as all other individuals when it comes to murder and classifies it as 1st degree automatically, rather than possibly being classified at a lower level. If not mistaken this is AGGRAVATED CIRCUMSTANCES, like Premeditation Murder of a pregnant woman Paid murderer Police Judges Witnesses to a crime
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
??? what a strange post. A murder of a gay, black, female or all three is just a murder. If the person was murdered BECAUSE she was a gay black female, and no other reason, then the murder victim is just as dead, but the reason for the murder is not your typical murder causes... so considered as a different type of crime.
For as long as laws have been in our history, punishment as well as deterring crime have been a part of the punishment. 1st degree murder... 2nd degree murder... Manslaughter... the victim is just as dead, but the reason or severity of the criminals reasons for the killing have different punishments... as with hate crimes.
Strange to you, but it would be , since as a lib, you think preferential treatment is leveling the playing field.
The degrees of murder all have to do with either premeditation or intent to cause bodily harm. Motive, whether it is because of hate, to steal, for revenge, should be used as proof for conviction and not reason for the amount of punishment.
Why should a person get a tougher sentence because he killed a person because he is gay, rather than that he hated the red sweater the victim was wearing? despising the red sweater is still hate, just not officially designated as such.
"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
Strange to you, but it would be , since as a lib, you think preferential treatment is leveling the playing field.
The degrees of murder all have to do with either premeditation or intent to cause bodily harm. Motive, whether it is because of hate, to steal, for revenge, should be used as proof for conviction and not reason for the amount of punishment.
Why should a person get a tougher sentence because he killed a person because he is gay, rather than that he hated the red sweater the victim was wearing? despising the red sweater is still hate, just not officially designated as such.
A hate crime is a traditional offense like murder, arson, or vandalism with an added element of bias. Congress has defined a hate crime as a "criminal offense against a person or property motivated in whole or in part by an offender's bias against a race, religion, disability, ethnic origin or sexual orientation." Hate itself is not a crime.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
A hate crime is a traditional offense like murder, arson, or vandalism with an added element of bias. Congress has defined a hate crime as a "criminal offense against a person or property motivated in whole or in part by an offender's bias against a race, religion, disability, ethnic origin or sexual orientation." Hate itself is not a crime.
I know what a "hate" crime is, according to Congress. All the hate legislation is about is pacifying a particular interest group. The legislation is not about "hate", only certain reasons for it. Example? The beating of the SF Giants baseball fan by two LA Dodger fans a couple of years ago. The is NO question "hate" was involved, but no hate crime charges. The victim was white and the perps were black. Now, if the roles were reversed, I'd bet you a weeks pay you would have seen hate crime charges.
It's law like this that give increased punishment on what the victim was instead of the gravity of the crime that will doom any chance we have at racial harmony...my suspicion is that's not the goal anyway,
"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
I know what a "hate" crime is, according to Congress. All the hate legislation is about is pacifying a particular interest group. The legislation is not about "hate", only certain reasons for it. Example? The beating of the SF Giants baseball fan by two LA Dodger fans a couple of years ago. The is NO question "hate" was involved, but no hate crime charges. The victim was white and the perps were black. Now, if the roles were reversed, I'd bet you a weeks pay you would have seen hate crime charges.
It's law like this that give increased punishment on what the victim was instead of the gravity of the crime that will doom any chance we have at racial harmony...my suspicion is that's not the goal anyway,
A hate crime is defined as one that involves threats, harassment, or physical harm and is motivated by prejudice against someone's race, color, religion, national origin, ethnicity, sexual orientation or physical or mental disability....I don't think opposing sports team hatred qualifies!!!
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
A hate crime is defined as one that involves threats, harassment, or physical harm and is motivated by prejudice against someone's race, color, religion, national origin, ethnicity, sexual orientation or physical or mental disability....I don't think opposing sports team hatred qualifies!!!
Then its targeted hate , to satisfy certain interest groups, just as i have been saying... When a jilted spouses killing of her partner is not considered hate, then the hate crimes section of penal law is a fuking joke
"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
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