My God you are such a fukin' cherry picking bonehead!
If you bothered to read, because it's totally obvious that you didn't, you would have noticed the VERY FIRST PARAGRAPH (I'll type it slow and make it all cool looking so you understand it)
Hey Boxy! Who are the only people allowed with weapons in 'Gun Free Zones', such as a schools?
So, you still want to go military bases aren't 'gun free zones'
It's also another example to proving that tighter gun restrictions do not deter these type of actions. Ft.Hood policy was put in place to prevent another mass shooting....Obviously, this has failed
If I have registered my guns on the base, and have the required paperwork, it is legal for me to transport my gun from my on base home, to anywhere off base. If I'm going hunting, I can take my gun from the armory, and transport it off base, then when I return, I can take my gun on base and back to the armory. I'm not allowed to carry concealed or to carry when I'm on duty, but other than that, I can transport to and from the base. IS THAT A GUN FREE ZONE???
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
I want people allowed to protect themselves, instead you want people to be at the mercy of a killer and hope he has a change of heart before pulling the trigger when he gets to you. No thanks I'll take my chances with a gun.
Henry... Who would protect us from those GunHugging @ssholes in the video???
They are armed and dangerous... and I think you will agree that they are "armed and dangerous"!
Who protects everyone else from these GunHuggers???
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Henry... Who would protect us from those GunHugging @ssholes in the video???
They are armed and dangerous... and I think you will agree that they are "armed and dangerous"!
Who protects everyone else from these GunHuggers???
Protect yourself, don't rely on others to do it for you because you will end up in serious trouble. Only a idiot would rely on gun free zone signs and people you don't know to protect your a$$. How many hours did it take for them to learn the shooter was dead, the saying is when seconds count cops are only minutes away, in this case it was when seconds count cops are only minutes away, but hours from actually doing anything.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Protect yourself, don't rely on others to do it for you because you will end up in serious trouble. Only a idiot would rely on gun free zone signs and people you don't know to protect your a$$. How many hours did it take for them to learn the shooter was dead, the saying is when seconds count cops are only minutes away, in this case it was when seconds count cops are only minutes away, but hours from actually doing anything.
Would you like to live in a community of Idiots like the GunHuggers in the posted video??? That is what you are asking the rest of us to do.
These Idiots who are a danger to themselves and everyone around them (under your plan) can sell their guns to anyone they choose... with out a background check. THAT IS YOUR PLAN ISN'T IT???
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Would you like to live in a community of Idiots like the GunHuggers in the posted video??? That is what you are asking the rest of us to do.
You would rather live unarmed on a base with mentally deranged trained killers on anti depressants, whose brains were scrambled in a war zone? Remember, these maniacs don't only live on army bases, these unstable people live in your neighborhood. So when they finally snap, the NYS gun laws want to make it as difficult as possible to defend yourself against a deranged and well trained in the art of killing.
Fort Hood Is A ‘Gun-Free Zone’ April 3, 2014 9:44 AM
FORT HOOD, Texas (CBS Houston/AP) — An Iraq War veteran being treated for mental illness opened fire Wednesday on fellow service members at the Fort Hood military base, killing three people and wounding 16 before committing suicide at the same post where more than a dozen people were slain in a 2009 attack, authorities said.
The shooter apparently walked into a building and began firing a .45-caliber semi-automatic pistol. He then got into a vehicle and continued firing before entering another building.
He was eventually confronted by military police in a parking lot. As he came within 20 feet of an officer, the gunman put his hands up but then reached under his jacket and pulled out his gun. The officer drew her own weapon, and the suspect put his gun to his head and pulled the trigger a final time, according to Lt. Gen. Mark A. Milley, senior officer on the base.
Milley called the officer’s actions “clearly heroic.”
“She did exactly what we expect of a United States soldier,” Milley told reporters.
The gunman, who served in Iraq for four months in 2011, had sought help for depression, anxiety and other problems. Before the attack, he had been undergoing an assessment to determine whether he had post-traumatic stress disorder, Milley said.
CBS News identified the gunman as 34-year-old Ivan Lopez. He is from Puerto Rico and joined the island’s National Guard in 1999.
Lt. Col Ruth Diaz says Lopez went on a peace and security mission to Egypt’s Sinai Peninsula in the mid-2000s. He left the Puerto Rico National Guard in 2010 to join the U.S. Army.
The married suspect had arrived at Fort Hood in February from another base in Texas. He was taking medication, and there were reports that he had complained after returning from Iraq about suffering a traumatic brain injury, Milley said. The commander did not elaborate.
The gunman was never wounded in action, according to military records, Milley said.
There was no indication the attack was related to terrorism, Milley said.
The weapon had been purchased recently in the local area and was not registered to be on the base, Milley said.
Milley stated that carrying concealed weapons on the base was prohibited.
Like many military installations, Fort Hood is a “gun-free zone.” The policy was reportedly first issued in 1992 by former President George H.W. Bush and then reissued in 2011, according to The Blaze.
“Arming DoD personnel with firearms shall be limited and controlled. Qualified personnel shall be armed when required for assigned duties and there is reasonable expectation that DoD installations, property, or personnel lives or DoD assets will be jeopardized if personnel are not armed,” the 2011 directive states.
Army Secretary John McHugh testified Thursday that the gunman was deployed for the final months of the Iraq war but did not see combat. McHugh also said it appeared he had no connections to extremist groups.
Lopez enlisted in the Army in June 2008 as an infantryman and later switched his specialty to truck driver, the job he had in Iraq.
McHugh says the soldier was examined by a psychiatrist last month and was found to show no violent or suicidal tendencies. He says the soldier had been prescribed Ambien to deal with a sleeping problem.
The injured were taken to the base hospital and other local hospitals. At least three of the nine patients at Scott and White Hospital in Temple were listed in critical condition.
Wednesday’s attack immediately revived memories of the shocking 2009 assault on Fort Hood, which was the deadliest attack on a domestic military installation in U.S. history. Thirteen people were killed and more than 30 wounded.
Until an all-clear siren sounded hours after Wednesday’s shooting began, relatives of soldiers waited anxiously for news about their loved ones.
“The last two hours have been the most nerve-wracking I’ve ever felt,” said Tayra DeHart, 33, who had earlier heard from her husband that he was safe but was waiting to hear from him again.
Brooke Conover, whose husband was on base at the time of the shooting, said she found out about it while checking Facebook. She immediately called her husband, Staff Sgt. Sean Conover.
“I just want him to come home,” Conover said.
President Barack Obama vowed that investigators would get to the bottom of the shooting.
In a hastily arranged statement in Chicago, Obama reflected on the sacrifices that troops stationed at Fort Hood have made — including enduring multiple tours to Iraq and Afghanistan.
“They serve with valor. They serve with distinction, and when they’re at their home base, they need to feel safe,” Obama said. “We don’t yet know what happened tonight, but obviously that sense of safety has been broken once again.”
The president spoke in the same room of a steakhouse where he had just met with about 25 donors at a previously scheduled fundraiser for the Democratic National Committee.
The November 2009 attack happened inside a crowded building where soldiers were waiting to get vaccines and routine paperwork after recently returning from deployments or preparing to go to Afghanistan and Iraq.
Army psychiatrist Nidal Hasan was convicted and sentenced to death last year in that mass shooting. He said he acted to protect Islamic insurgents abroad from American aggression.
According to testimony during Hasan’s trial last August, Hasan walked inside carrying two weapons and several loaded magazines, shouted “Allahu Akbar!” — Arabic for “God is great!” — and opened fire with a handgun.
The rampage ended when Hasan was shot in the back by Fort Hood police officers. He was paralyzed from the waist down and is now on death row at the military prison at Fort Leavenworth in Kansas.
After that shooting, the military tightened security at bases nationwide. Those measures included issuing security personnel long-barreled weapons, adding an insider-attack scenario to their training and strengthening ties to local law enforcement. The military also joined an FBI intelligence-sharing program aimed at identifying terror threats.
In September, a former Navy man opened fire at the Washington Navy Yard, leaving 13 people dead, including the gunman. After that shooting, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel ordered the Pentagon to review security at all U.S. defense installations worldwide and examine the granting of security clearances that allow access to them.
Asked Wednesday about security improvements in the wake of the shootings, Hagel said, “Obviously when we have these kinds of tragedies on our bases, something’s not working.”
Go ahead, tell me CBS is a "conservative media" network.
We are advised NOT to judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works.
It's all about the mental effects of GOVERNMENT WAR!!!!
It's all about brainwashed trained killers, with mental problems, who are on government issued mind altering drugs!!!
If it wasn't a gun....it'd be a home made small weapon of mass destruction!!!
get with the program here folks!!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
You would rather live unarmed on a base with mentally deranged trained killers on anti depressants, whose brains were scrambled in a war zone? Remember, these maniacs don't only live on army bases, these unstable people live in your neighborhood. So when they finally snap, the NYS gun laws want to make it as difficult as possible to defend yourself against a deranged and well trained in the art of killing.
Oh yeah, just call the police, they'll save you.
How does NYS make it more difficult to defend myself???
The more of these "deranged killers" who are unarmed by the SAFE ACT, the safer our neighborhoods are for everyone. Eliminating mental cases from the gun buying public helps keep our state safe... Unlike Texas where all you need is a 'live body' with a fist full of cash to buy a gun.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
If I have registered my guns on the base, and have the required paperwork, it is legal for me to transport my gun from my on base home, to anywhere off base. If I'm going hunting, I can take my gun from the armory, and transport it off base, then when I return, I can take my gun on base and back to the armory. I'm not allowed to carry concealed or to carry when I'm on duty, but other than that, I can transport to and from the base. IS THAT A GUN FREE ZONE???
Yes.
I do not know the proper procedure/protocol/rules that one has to follow regarding the transport of personal weapons to either your on base home or (in Ft. Hood's case) the armory. I can speculate, with a high degree of probability, that it won't be you walking in or out with a rife slung on your shoulder or a pistol on your hip.
I'll go with locked cases with any ammo in a separate container with the possibility of an escort.
"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'
Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'
Would you like to live in a community of Idiots like the GunHuggers in the posted video??? That is what you are asking the rest of us to do.
No I would rather live in a community or state which looks down on gun owners, at least then I will be safe......oh wait I do and we are the 11th most dangerous small city in the whole country, 9th when it comes to murders.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Last night on CNN the commander of the base gave a press conference and said that personal weapons are allowed on base once they have been registered at the base. He said that the shooter had not registered his pistol.
He also said that you are not allowed to carry concealed weapons on base.
hahahahahahahahahaha......so because he didn't register the weapon the shootings happened? hahahahahahahahaha
of course having been stripped of one's self to be made into a government machine isn't a reason to 'lose yourself/mind' now is it?
from a public school cog to an army cog
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
No I would rather live in a community or state which looks down on gun owners, at least then I will be safe......oh wait I do and we are the 11th most dangerous small city in the whole country, 9th when it comes to murders.
Yea.. Schdy is bad... just think of how bad it would be if it were located in some gun backward red state like Texas???
The 10 Deadliest Gun States (All Red States Of Course) With permissive Gun Laws (Of Course) #1, Mississippi Gun deaths per 100,000: 18.3 Permissive gun laws: 4th out of 50
#2, Arizona Gun deaths per 100,000: 15 Permissive gun laws: 1st out of 50
#3, Alaska Gun deaths per 100,000: 17.6 Permissive gun laws: 11th out of 50
#4, Arkansas Gun deaths per 100,000: 15.1 Permissive gun laws: 7th out of 50
#5, Louisiana Gun deaths per 100,000: 19.9 Permissive gun laws: 23rd out of 50
#6, New Mexico Gun deaths per 100,000: 15 Permissive gun laws: 6th out of 50
#7, Alabama Gun deaths per 100,000: 17.6 Permissive gun laws: 27th out of 50
#8, Nevada Gun deaths per 100,000: 16.2 Permissive gun laws: 22nd out of 50
#9, Montana Gun deaths per 100,000: 14.5 Permissive gun laws: 10th out of 50
#10, Wyoming Gun deaths per 100,000: 14.5 Permissive gun laws: 8th out of 50
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
hahahahahahahahahaha......so because he didn't register the weapon the shootings happened? hahahahahahahahaha
of course having been stripped of one's self to be made into a government machine isn't a reason to 'lose yourself/mind' now is it?
from a public school cog to an army cog
Box is in shock not that he killed people but he didn't register his gun 1st with the base, I mean what happened he didn't obey the laws, I know lets make even more laws and policies saying "All guns must be registered OR ELSE" that will surely stop another shooting.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Yea.. Schdy is bad... just think of how bad it would be if it were located in some gun backward red state like Texas???
How many of those deaths were the bad guys
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
No I would rather live in a community or state which looks down on gun owners, at least then I will be safe......oh wait I do and we are the 11th most dangerous small city in the whole country, 9th when it comes to murders.
Thank god that Schdy is in a relatively safe gun state like NY:
10 Safest Gun States on the list of deadly gun states:
#41, New Hampshire Gun deaths per 100,000: 5.9 Permissive gun laws: 26th out of 50
#42, Minnesota Gun deaths per 100,000: 6.6 Permissive gun laws: 36th out of 50
#43, Illinois Gun deaths per 100,000: 8 Permissive gun laws: 45th out of 50
#44, Iowa Gun deaths per 100,000: 5.3 Permissive gun laws: 38th out of 50
#45, New York Gun deaths per 100,000: 5.1 Permissive gun laws: 43rd out of 50
#46, New Jersey Gun deaths per 100,000: 5.2 Permissive gun laws: 49th out of 50
#47, Connecticut Gun deaths per 100,000: 4.3 Permissive gun laws: 46th out of 50
#48, Rhode Island Gun deaths per 100,000: 3.5 Permissive gun laws: 42nd out of 50
#49, Massachusetts Gun deaths per 100,000: 3.6 Permissive gun laws: 48th out of 50
#50, Hawaii Gun deaths per 100,000: 2.8 Permissive gun laws: 47th out of 50
Yes NY is the 5th safest Gun State in the nation... can you imagine how bad Schenectady would be if it were in some gun backward state???
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
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