KILLEEN, Texas — Authorities are investigating a shooting at Ft. Hood that left four people dead and 14 others injured, according to a Texas congressman. The sprawling military base was on lockdown as investigators tried to determine whether there was a second gunman.
Officials at Ft. Hood said they have received an initial report that a shooter at the base was dead. But Michael McCaul (R-Texas), chairman of the Homeland Security Committee, said the shooter was among four who are dead. In an interview with CNN, he described the shooting as "soldier on soldier" and said terrorism was not suspected.
Ft. Hood's Directorate of Emergency Services said that injured personnel were being transported to Carl R. Darnall Medical Center and other hospitals. Numerous law enforcement agencies are in support and on the scene.
The number of injured are not confirmed at this time, a statement said. No further details were released.
A spokesperson for Darnall Medical Center told The Times that victims were being treated there, but declined to describe their injuries or the number of patients.
Ft. Hood remains on lockdown and everyone at the Texas Army base is to "shelter in place."
President Obama, who was traveling in Chicago, said "We're following it closely. The situation is fluid right now. ... I want to just assure all of us we are going to get to the bottom of exactly what happened."
"We're heartbroken something like this might have happened again," he said.
The 1st Cavalry Division, which is based at Ft. Hood, sent a Twitter alert telling people on base to close doors and stay away from windows.
A spokeswoman for the base declined to comment. A spokesman for the local sheriff's office did not immediately have information on the incident.
The Fort Hood shooter who then took his own life has been identified as 34-year-old Spc. Ivan Lopez.
Law enforcement sources said four people were dead, including the gunman, who died of a self-inflicted wound. Officials said several people were wounded, although the exact number was not immediately clear. At one point there were reports that as many as 14 people had been wounded.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
No terrorism suspected...An Argument in the motor pool is being reported as a factor
"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
Another mass killing by a service man, this is becoming a trend I see. You brainwash people to become killers it should be no surprise when they do kill.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
I thought they had increased security - and that this was a "gun free zone" (just as every other mass shooting has been for the last 50+ years).
Hmm. Kinda makes you wonder.
We are advised NOT to judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works.
I thought they had increased security - and that this was a "gun free zone" (just as every other mass shooting has been for the last 50+ years).
Hmm. Kinda makes you wonder.
The base was not a 'gun free zone'. To own a personal gun on base, you only needed to register the gun with the army.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
The base was not a 'gun free zone'. To own a personal gun on base, you only needed to register the gun with the army.
Not quite.. the Army is the only branch that has restrictions on who can carry firearms on base:
"A change in U.S. Army regulations issued in March 1993 (just two months after President Clinton assumed office) did affect the issue of personnel carrying firearms on military bases, but that change in regulations was issued by the Department of the Army and was not implemented by President Clinton via an executive order. Moreover, that change in regulations came about in response to a U.S. Department of Defense directive issued in February 1992, during the presidency of George H.W. Bush, and not at the sole behest of President Clinton.
Additionally, that change in regulations (which applied only to the Army, not other branches of the U.S. armed forces) did not ban the carrying of weapons by soldiers on Army bases; it restricted the authorization to carry firearms to personnel engaged in law enforcement and security duties, and to personnel stationed at facilities where there was "a reasonable expectation that life or Army assets would be jeopardized if firearms were not carried": a. The authorization to carry firearms will be issued only to qualified personnel when there is a reasonable expectation that life or Department of the Army (DA) assets will be jeopardized if firearms are not carried. Evaluation of the necessity to carry a firearm will be made considering this expectation weighed against the possible consequences of accidental or indiscriminate use of firearms.
b. DA personnel regularly engaged in law enforcement or security duties will be armed.
c. DA personnel are authorized to carry firearms while engaged in security duties, protecting personnel and vital Government assets, or guarding prisoners."
"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
Not quite.. the Army is the only branch that has restrictions on who can carry firearms on base:
"A change in U.S. Army regulations issued in March 1993 (just two months after President Clinton assumed office) did affect the issue of personnel carrying firearms on military bases, but that change in regulations was issued by the Department of the Army and was not implemented by President Clinton via an executive order. Moreover, that change in regulations came about in response to a U.S. Department of Defense directive issued in February 1992, during the presidency of George H.W. Bush, and not at the sole behest of President Clinton.
Additionally, that change in regulations (which applied only to the Army, not other branches of the U.S. armed forces) did not ban the carrying of weapons by soldiers on Army bases; it restricted the authorization to carry firearms to personnel engaged in law enforcement and security duties, and to personnel stationed at facilities where there was "a reasonable expectation that life or Army assets would be jeopardized if firearms were not carried": a. The authorization to carry firearms will be issued only to qualified personnel when there is a reasonable expectation that life or Department of the Army (DA) assets will be jeopardized if firearms are not carried. Evaluation of the necessity to carry a firearm will be made considering this expectation weighed against the possible consequences of accidental or indiscriminate use of firearms.
b. DA personnel regularly engaged in law enforcement or security duties will be armed.
c. DA personnel are authorized to carry firearms while engaged in security duties, protecting personnel and vital Government assets, or guarding prisoners."
Last night on CNN the commander of the base gave a press conference and said that personal weapons are allowed on base once they have been registered at the base. He said that the shooter had not registered his pistol.
He also said that you are not allowed to carry concealed weapons on base.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
The base was not a 'gun free zone'. To own a personal gun on base, you only needed to register the gun with the army.
Owning a weapon on base is not the same a carrying said weapon.
Nobody is allowed to carry on a base unless your job calls for it....So yeah, it is a 'gun free' zone.
IIRC Bill Clinton set this policy.
"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'
Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'
Owning a weapon on base is not the same a carrying said weapon.
Nobody is allowed to carry on a base unless your job calls for it....So yeah, it is a 'gun free' zone.
IIRC Bill Clinton set this policy.
Guns can be brought on base if Registered with some restrictions. A gun free zone would be just that... free of any guns. FT HOOD IS NOT A GUN FREE ZONE!
Current policy requires soldiers to register their own personal weapons with their commanders and to keep those weapons in the arms room.
Ft Hood POLICY:
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b. All persons, whether Service Member or civilian, who intend to transport a POF onto Fort Hood must first register that firearm with DES. Any transported onto Fort Hood will be accompanied by post registration documentation and are subject to inspection at all times. All persons bringing a POF onto Fort Hood must enter through an Access Control Point (ACP), declare that they are bringing a POF on post and state the purpose for doing so to the ACP personnel. Persons may be prevented from bringing an unregistered POF on post.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Current policy requires soldiers to register their own personal weapons with their commanders and to keep those weapons in the arms room.
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So like Buckstrider said a gun free zone, the victims had no protection and would have to make their way across that base to make it to a arms room, even if they got there the base was on lockdown and chances are they wouldn't of been allowed to get their guns. Maybe they will learn to drop this policy which has lead to the killing of so many people.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
So like Buckstrider said a gun free zone, the victims had no protection and would have to make their way across that base to make it to a arms room, even if they got there the base was on lockdown and chances are they wouldn't of been allowed to get their guns. Maybe they will learn to drop this policy which has lead to the killing of so many people.
Instead of a "Gun Free Zone", Henry wants a "GunHugger Zone"... It would look something like this:
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Guns can be brought on base if Registered with some restrictions. A gun free zone would be just that... free of any guns. FT HOOD IS NOT A GUN FREE ZONE!
Current policy requires soldiers to register their own personal weapons with their commanders and to keep those weapons in the arms room.
My God you are such a fukin' cherry picking bonehead!
If you bothered to read, because it's totally obvious that you didn't, you would have noticed the VERY FIRST PARAGRAPH (I'll type it slow and make it all cool looking so you understand it)
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Soldiers on ALL military installations, including Fort Hood, are not armed while on post, nor are they permitted to carry any privately owned firearms. Only law enforcement and security personnel are allowed to have weapons on post.
Hey Boxy! Who are the only people allowed with weapons in 'Gun Free Zones', such as a schools?
So, you still want to go military bases aren't 'gun free zones'
It's also another example to proving that tighter gun restrictions do not deter these type of actions. Ft.Hood policy was put in place to prevent another mass shooting....Obviously, this has failed
"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'
Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'
[size=18]Instead of a "Gun Free Zone", Henry wants a "GunHugger Zone"...
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I want people allowed to protect themselves, instead you want people to be at the mercy of a killer and hope he has a change of heart before pulling the trigger when he gets to you. No thanks I'll take my chances with a gun.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
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