Is that what I 'pointed out'??? I must have missed that part!
Your San Francisco unemployment number vs California's unemployment number picture. I thought you were pointing out the enormous income inequality in SF despite the higher minimum wage.
Your San Francisco unemployment number vs California's unemployment number picture. I thought you were pointing out the enormous income inequality in SF despite the higher minimum wage.
If that's what you thought, then why did you post this rant???
Yes, those big liberal cities are the WORST when it comes to paying a "fair wage". As you pointed out, even at a $10 per hour minimum wage, San Francisco has the most inequality, with the few rich white liberals having the majority of the money, and the poor minority community.
Cissy posts so many 'straw men" that I think he lives here:
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
[img]A few months ago, the people of Switzerland put a referendum on the ballot for a basic income. This proposal would issue for every adult person in the nation a monthly government stipend of ~$2,200-$2,700 US dollars per month. This basic income would come without any means testing, just money to every adult from the day they turn of age till the day they die. With a guaranteed basic income, work would no longer be required to survive, poverty would be eliminated in one move. Where did they get this radical idea?
Would you believe the idea for a basic income for all came from a founding father of the United States?
Thomas Paine, one of our founding fathers, proposed a basic income in “Agrarian Justice.”[/img]
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Yes, those big liberal cities are the WORST when it comes to paying a "fair wage". As you pointed out, (I DID? even at a $10 per hour minimum wage, San Francisco has the most inequality, with the few rich white liberals (I POSTED THIS? having the majority of the money,(Where DID I POINT THIS OUT? and the poor minority community.
So where (other than in your above straw man) Did I Point That Out???
Cissy's straw house is on fire... Oh no!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
[img]A few months ago, the people of Switzerland put a referendum on the ballot for a basic income. This proposal would issue for every adult person in the nation a monthly government stipend of ~$2,200-$2,700 US dollars per month. This basic income would come without any means testing, just money to every adult from the day they turn of age till the day they die. With a guaranteed basic income, work would no longer be required to survive, poverty would be eliminated in one move. Where did they get this radical idea?
Would you believe the idea for a basic income for all came from a founding father of the United States?
Thomas Paine, one of our founding fathers, proposed a basic income in “Agrarian Justice.”[/img]
As the article states, we have something somewhat similar, except through a patchwork of programs, which require multiple agencies to administer. If it eliminated these agencies, I might tend to be for it...but then, I'd have to live in a utopia where greed for money,power, and influence doesn't exist...from the rich republicans you hate to the supposed champions of the poor..champions that need the poor to remain so to continue relevancy
"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
As the article states, we have something somewhat similar, except through a patchwork of programs, which require multiple agencies to administer. If it eliminated these agencies, I might tend to be for it...but then, I'd have to live in a utopia where greed for money,power, and influence doesn't exist...from the rich republicans you hate to the supposed champions of the poor..champions that need the poor to remain so to continue relevancy
The difference is this: This proposal would issue for every adult person in the nation a monthly government stipend of ~$2,200-$2,700 US dollars per month. No means test, no paperwork, not 'are you poor enough' etc. Every citizen would get the same amount. Rich and poor alike.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
So where (other than in your above straw man) Did I Point That Out???
Cissy's straw house is on fire... Oh no!
Your "median" rent prices showing rent is nearly $4000 or higher for 50% for a 2 bedroom. That wasn't meant to show the gross inequality in San Francisco?
Your "median" rent prices showing rent is nearly $4000 or higher for 50% for a 2 bedroom. That wasn't meant to show the gross inequality in San Francisco?
Really Cissy... you need to stick by your words. You post your Straw Man, then you run like Forrest Gump from them.
Did you or did you not post these Straw Man words?
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As you pointed out, even at a $10 per hour minimum wage, San Francisco has the most inequality, with the few rich white liberals having the majority of the money, and the poor minority community.
I really "pointed out the few rich white liberals have the majority of money??? This is an easy "yes or no"... not that difficult.
(I fear Cissy is taking quite a huge poetic license in his Straw Man Posts.) Why post the words, then run from them as if you never saw the Straw Man??? Tedious at best!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Is this Henry joining Cicero and Shadow in their view of America's poor as "CAGED ANIMALS"?
you are a caged animal under the rule/management of those your pope speaks against.....
your cast is set...some animals find their cage too big and hole up in a corner and others no matter how big the cage feels to others, still feel caged.....
you are content because that's what jesus said to be...feel blessed for what you have for there are others with less than you so make sure you give it away so they will enjoy their cage more and be content. because that is exactly what the leaders do.
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
In the small minds of those who ponder such imagined injustice, if I have three cookies, and Box or some other less hard-working soul has only one cookie- there must be an imbalance in the cookie universe that prevents the soul with one cookie from baking a second or third. So therefore, the baking of cookies needs to be closely regulated, and those that have more cookies must allow theirs to go stale before daring to have the audacity to bake or eat any more cookies. This is the insane mind of the redistributionist. There is a "finite" supply of cookies in their decayed minds.
Box, could you believe that someone could write all of that withOUT a cut and paste capability on their keyboard? That APPLEC thing must be wearing a hole in your laptop.
"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
“The income gap this chart represents is not sustainable. There is nothing wrong with being wealthy, but if we don’t pursue policies that advance economic opportunity for the middle-class, this country will change for the worse. We need to focus like a laser on the light blue line in this chart, and get it heading upwards again.”
Sen. Charles Schumer
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Workers in 13 states will be receiving minimum wage increases in 2014, a move that coincides with a reignited interest in Congress to raise the federal minimum wage from $7.25 to $10.10 an hour. While conservative opposition mounts in Congress, a handful of local counties and municipalities have upped the ante by moving to raise their own minimum wages to match the local costs of living, which in certain cases means a minimum wage as high as $15.00 per hour. The effort to do something similar with the federal minimum wage centers on a provision in a bill cosponsored by Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) and Rep. George Miller (D-Calif.) which would tie the minimum wage to inflation.
Established in 1938 under the Fair Labor Standards Act (the same bill that imposed the 40-hour work week), the purpose of the minimum wage was to protect workers and guarantee a minimum of health and well-being for working Americans. The last time the federal minimum wage lived up to this dream was 1968, when, in today's dollars, the minimum wage was $10.77. Today's $7.25 per hour, which amounts to a mere $15,080 in annual income, falls short of the estimated $11 per hour needed to keep a family of four out of poverty. Regular increases in inflation over the past 40 years have outpaced Congress' dismal efforts to raise the federal minimum wage, resulting in today's workforce being paid two dollars less per hour than those in 1968, despite being many times more productive.
This all might be why raising the minimum wage has never been more popular. Only one-third of Americans believe that raising the minimum wage would be bad for workers, an argument peddled by conservatives who claim that a higher wage will mean fewer jobs. Fifty-one percent, on the other hand, believe that a higher wage would benefit workers. According to one study, just raising the minimum wage to the proposed $10 an hour would raise 60% of struggling families above the poverty line, while saving the government money in social safety net expenses.
Of course, conservatives don't quite see it this way. In the words of John Boehner, "When you raise the price of employment, guess what happens? You get less of it," adding, "At a time when Americans are still asking the question, 'Where are the jobs?’'why would we want to make it harder for small employers to hire people?" According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the majority of states with higher than national unemployment also pay a rate higher than federal minimum wage. On the other hand, states with lower unemployment tend to use the lower, federal minimum wage, adding weight to the argument that, the higher the minimum wage, the higher the unemployment rate.
However, economists are split on the issue. While basic Econ 101 would defend conservatives' claim, according to Arindrajit Dube, a University of Massachusetts economist, "Outside of the simple Econ 101-type environment, increasing workers' pay can improve the functioning of the low-wage labor market." Research by the Economic Policy Institute, a vocal advocate for a minimum wage increase, claims that raising the minimum wage would create $85,000 new jobs and add $22 billion to the economy, largely by redressing the glut in consumer demand that's prolonged the recession. Maybe that's why national unemployment in 1968 (the last time the minimum wage made sense) rested at 3.6%, or less than half of what it is today. Raising the minimum wage might not be a magic bullet in the fight against poverty, but it's still a bullet in a time when we've lately been drawing blanks.
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