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Box A Rox
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Scrap The Cap



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Scrap The Cap



Scrapping the cap will make SS solvent with the benefits it is providing today...I've advocated that more than once on this board. BUT, Reich is leaving two important factors that will REQUIRE the SS percentage withholding to be close to doubled in order to expand the system in the way he proposes:

1. A lopsided retiree worker ratio. It's getting worse very year, and that's just for normal retirees, you have the RECORD amount of people that are on SS disability. Lawyers make a good living putting more people on it every day.

2. For the REDUCED amount of workers that have to shoulder the load, they are making LESS money counting inflation then they did before 2008... and with our increasing reliance on a service based economy, that's not going to get any better.

Workforce participation percentage is the LOWEST it has been in over 40 years. There is no free lunch... just eliminating the cap will not give Reich what he wants in solvency AND expansion.


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Scrapping the cap will make SS solvent with the benefits it is providing today...I've advocated that more than once on this board. BUT, Reich is leaving two important factors that will REQUIRE the SS percentage withholding to be close to doubled in order to expand the system in the way he proposes:

1. A lopsided retiree worker ratio. It's getting worse very year, and that's just for normal retirees, you have the RECORD amount of people that are on SS disability. Lawyers make a good living putting more people on it every day.

2. For the REDUCED amount of workers that have to shoulder the load, they are making LESS money counting inflation then they did before 2008... and with our increasing reliance on a service based economy, that's not going to get any better.

Workforce participation percentage is the LOWEST it has been in over 40 years. There is no free lunch... just eliminating the cap will not give Reich what he wants in solvency AND expansion.


The Republican solution to your above stated problems?
Cut benefits,
raise retirement age
and reduce SS disability programs.

But NOT "Scrap The Cap."


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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The GOP Against OT

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On Monday, the White House unveiled a major reform that should guarantee
overtime coverage for salaried workers earning less than $50,440 per year. If the
proposal goes into effect in 2016 as planned, an estimated 5 million new workers will
be eligible for time-and-a-half pay, the standard overtime rate in the U.S., whenever
they work more than 40 hours a week.

Currently, those workers are entitled to nothing beyond their base salary for the extra
hours they commit, so employers have an incentive to pile it on. But once those workers
are guaranteed time-and-a-half, employers will be paying a premium for the extra labor.
For many workers, the administration hopes, the change will translate into either a bigger
paycheck or more free time.

"I think the overtime rule could have the capacity to help millions of workers get back into
the middle class"




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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Ah yes...coming from the man that inherited millions from the family opium trade with China.  A real champion of the little guy.


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Ah yes...coming from the man that inherited millions from the family opium trade with China.  A real champion of the little guy.


riiiight! hahahahahaha....hasn't anyone realized that there are no political party heroes? you can't change a leopard's spots
unless............you skin it.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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Ah yes...coming from the man that inherited millions from the family opium trade with China.  A real champion of the little guy.


He isn't talking about the Rich... there is nothing wrong with being wealthy...
He's warning about the Greedy.  


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He isn't talking about the Rich... there is nothing wrong with being wealthy...
He's warning about the Greedy.  


Yeah...the Catholic Church warns about greed too.  This also coming from a man sitting on a golden throne.

Why is it the richest, greediest and most powerful always warning about the people for which they are a part of?


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Yeah...the Catholic Church warns about greed too.  This also coming from a man sitting on a golden throne.

Why is it the richest, greediest and most powerful always warning about the people for which they are a part of?


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When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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what is the definition of greed? I think it's an arbitrary line in the sand.


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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what is the definition of greed? I think it's an arbitrary line in the sand.


The definition of greed is determined by those green with envy.


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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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What's a "typical worker"?


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