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More Than 1 In 10 Americans Who Work Full Time Are Still Poor

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By one estimate, one in four private-sector jobs in the U.S. now pays less than
$10 per hour, well below a living wage in many areas of the country. Compared to
better-paying positions, these jobs are also more likely to come without regular schedules
or benefits, like health care coverage, paid vacation time or sick leave -- the basic trappings
of middle-class work. In other words, employment doesn't guarantee a life above the poverty
line; according to census data, more than one in 10 Americans who work full-time are
still poor.


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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/17/working-poor_n_4463606.html


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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By one estimate, one in four private-sector jobs in the U.S. now pays less than
$10 per hour, well below a living wage in many areas of the country.


Hmmm...What drives up the cost of goods that make a wage unlivable?

Obama should revisit the salaries of elected officials, judges, and staffers.  Their salaries are certainly out of whack when talking income inequality.  


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Hmmm...What drives up the cost of goods that make a wage unlivable?

Obama should revisit the salaries of elected officials, judges, and staffers.  Their salaries are certainly out of whack when talking income inequality.  


Spoken like a true Right Winger solution...
Drag everyone down to the poverty level instead of bringing everyone up to a middle class wage.

The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy;
that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Spoken like a true Right Winger solution...
Drag everyone down to the poverty level instead of bringing everyone up to a middle class wage.

The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy;
that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith


people NEVER get brought up....there is ALWAYS a bottom that seems too far down for those looking down....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Spoken like a true Right Winger solution...
Drag everyone down to the poverty level instead of bringing everyone up to a middle class wage.


Print money and give enough of it to every poor person to put them in the middle class.  Problem solved.  Very simple statist solution.

BTW...Obama's 5 year solution was to give 95% of the wealth created to the top 1%, and grow the number of people on food stamps and disability.  Obama must be a right winger...as he prepares to go on his $4 million Hawaiian vacation.


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Obama must be a right winger...as he prepares to go on his $4 million Hawaiian vacation.

Frankly I think we need to cap the costs somehow, but to point out the $4m Obama trip is nearsighted.....
Yes, it's a lot of money, but how come no screams over GWB?
READ ON:

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Bush Spent 5 Times More On Flights To Texas Than Obama’s Christmas Vacation Costs

Dec 23 2011 Published by Guest Contributor under Uncategorized

Those who criticize the cost of Obama’s Christmas vacation don’t want you to know that George W. Bush spent at least $20 million taxpayer dollars just on flights to his ranch in Crawford.

The right wing has been outraged at the four million dollar plus price tag for Obama’s family Christmas vacation, and they constantly hold George W. Bush up as an example of how thrifty a president should be when going on vacation.

The problem is that W. wasn’t thrifty. He was the most expensive vacation president in US history. Not only did Bush spend more days on vacation than any other president, but he used Air Force One more often while on vacation than any other president.

During Bush’s two terms, the cost of operating Air Force One ranged from $56,800 to $68,000 an hour. Bush used Air Force One 77 times to go to his ranch in Crawford, TX. Using the low end cost of $56,800, Media Matters calculated that each trip to Crawford cost taxpayers $259,687 each time, and $20 million total for Bush’s ranch flights.

If cost of the flight was the only expense involved to taxpayers Bush’s vacations would still seem rather economical, but there is more, much more. Unlike the Obama’s $4 million Christmas vacation price tag, which includes the cost of everything from transportation to accommodations for the First Family, the White House staff, and the White House press corps, Bush’s numbers only include the cost of flying the president to Crawford. The cost of transporting and accommodating staff, media, friends and family is not included in Bush’s vacation numbers.

In response to growing criticism that the president was on vacation too much, the Bush administration adopted the Rovian tactic of scheduling, “work events,” while the president was in Crawford so that they could claim that President Bush’s vacations were working vacations. During his infamous pre-9/11 August vacation, the AP reported that, “Using the ranch as a base, he will promote White House initiatives in Rocky Mountain National Park, Denver, Albuquerque, Milwaukee, Pittsburgh and San Antonio.”

Bush’s “working vacations” cost taxpayers a small fortune in travel costs because President Bush and his staff would make day trips on Air Force One all across the country in order to counter the criticism that he was on vacation too often. For eight years, Bush essentially used Air Force One as his personal vacation taxi service.

What was also not counted in Bush’s Air Force One mileage total were the vacations where Bush flew to Crawford from Camp David such as the following via Media Matters:


In a December 27, 2001, Fort Lauderdale (Fla.) Sun-Sentinel article (accessed via Nexis), national correspondent Jeff Zeleny reported “[a]fter spending Christmas at the Camp David presidential retreat in Maryland, the president and first lady boarded Air Force One to travel to their ranch near the village of Crawford.”

And on December 26, 2007, The Associated Press reported that Bush took “Air Force One to fly from his Maryland mountaintop retreat to his Texas ranch here to see in the new year.”

FactCheck.org was writing about the anonymous chain emails about Obama’s travel costs and noted in July that the stories about Obama’s travel expenses are, “part of continuing pattern of false and misleading claims about the travels of the president and the first lady,” and that Obama used Air Force One less in his first two years in office than George W. Bush did.

That same pattern of false information about Obama’s travel costs relative to Bush’s is also rampant on right wing blogs, websites, and Fox News. The cost of Obama’s Christmas vacation is a good example of how right wing media can take a small fact like vacation costs or the number of Americans paying taxes in a single year and build an entire misinformation campaign around it.

The total cost of Obama’s Christmas vacation may be $4 million, but George W. Bush spent exponentially more taxpayers dollars, because he used Air Force One for political purposes in an attempt to distract the public from the amount of days that he was spending on vacation. In flights alone just for himself, George W. Bush spent five times more money flying just himself to Texas than Obama is spending on an entire Christmas vacation.

It is likely that the Bush administration spent hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars on vacations, but the false outrage machine is on overdrive due to one Obama Christmas vacation.

By not including the cost of everything, the Obama bashers distorted the numbers to make it appear that Obama was lavishly spending taxpayer dollars on vacations, but a look inside the numbers reveals that nobody knows how to waste taxpayer dollars quite like the GOP.

Merry Christmas, Republicans. Here’s to another false Obama smear debunked.



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Report: Obama's Africa trip could cost $60M-$100M
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David Jackson, USA TODAY 2:50 p.m. EDT June 14, 2013
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Presidential trips are expensive, and President Obama's journey to Africa this month will in no way be an exception.

The Washington Post estimates that Obama's Africa trip could cost $60 million to $100 million, citing a person familiar with the details who cited previous presidential missions to Africa.

A more precise estimate is impossible because details about the president's security are classified.

"The infrastructure that accompanies the president's travels is beyond our control," Ben Rhodes, Obama's deputy national security adviser for strategic communication, told the Post. "The security requirements are not White House-driven, they are Secret Service-driven."

The Post reported:

"Hundreds of U.S. Secret Service agents will be dispatched to secure facilities in Senegal, South Africa and Tanzania. A Navy aircraft carrier or amphibious ship, with a fully staffed medical trauma center, will be stationed offshore in case of an emergency.
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Frankly I think we need to cap the costs somehow, but to point out the $4m Obama trip is nearsighted.....
Yes, it's a lot of money, but how come no screams over GWB?
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I'm not a GWB apologist...

Nearsighted?  Maybe...But Obama is pushing the narrative of "income inequality".  

As for pointing fingers at Bush...I thought changing the Bush Era is what Obama promised to do if he was elected?  Income inequality GREW under Obama.  

Referencing GWB's vacations to justify Obama's lavish vacations isn't really "change" is it?


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I'm not a GWB apologist...

Nearsighted?  Maybe...But Obama is pushing the narrative of "income inequality".  

As for pointing fingers at Bush...I thought changing the Bush Era is what Obama promised to do if he was elected?  Income inequality GREW under Obama.  

Referencing GWB's vacations to justify Obama's lavish vacations isn't really "change" is it?


As if a presidential vacation has anything to so with income inequality!  

The rich have gotten richer and the middle class under the last several presidents are mow
the poor.

It's the system.  Even Republicans agree it needs to be addressed.  Today it favors the rich
and limits the poor.  Cicero's immature view is to "limit presidential vacations", or to "reduce the
presidents staff pay".  Really Cissy, do you think that YOUR SOLUTION would help the problem???

Cissy only has one care, only one agenda, only one view on the world... if it helps Cissy, it's good.
If it doesn't it is of no value.


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Referencing GWB's vacations to justify Obama's lavish vacations isn't really "change" is it?

Nowhere in my post do I justify anything...in fact I make a clear statement on
my opinion about these trips, regardless of who President is. So did you fail to read that
or just once again trying to attach false statements to someone...me?


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rich didn't get richer...your money became worth less and your neighbors demanded raises.


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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John Kenneth Galbraith

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Go shop someplace else?  Just another one of those radial libertarian concepts.

Let me get box's logic straight.  A&E can do whatever they want with Phil Robertson because it's a private company, but Walmart is evil for paying a wage to an employee that accepts a job at that wage?


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