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In the big government statist mind, you look at the graph and see a minimum wage problem, in the small government capitalist mind you see a currency inflation problem.

You raise minimum wage $2 per hour and you destroy small businesses.  The mom and pop shops that already can't compete with the big box Walmart's of the world will disappear from the American landscape.  Everybody will work for the 1%, seeing that they have accumulated all the money.

Raising the minimum wage is great if you want to destroy small businesses and want every American working for Walmart and Target at $10 per hour.


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In the big government statist mind, you look at the graph and see a minimum wage problem, in the small government capitalist mind you see a currency inflation problem.

You raise minimum wage $2 per hour and you destroy small businesses.  The mom and pop shops that already can't compete with the big box Walmart's of the world will disappear from the American landscape.  Everybody will work for the 1%, seeing that they have accumulated all the money.

Raising the minimum wage is great if you want to destroy small businesses and want every American working for Walmart and Target at $10 per hour.
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Why don't the brainiacs simply raise minimum wage to $10,000 per hour and make everyone millionaires?

Idiots.


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Why don't the brainiacs simply raise minimum wage to $10,000 per hour and make everyone millionaires?

Idiots.




...because the corporations that pull the strings tell them how much to set a minimum wage that will increase their profits and eliminate their competition.  They know Gabriel's and Sals market can't afford to pay that wage, so they will eventually go out of business, and their customers will be forced to shop at the handful of stores that can afford it.  And the skilled butchers working for Sals will get a job at the Walmart meat counter making $10 per hour.

Just another way to destroy the bourgeoisie.


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...because the corporations that pull the strings tell them how much to set a minimum wage that will increase their profits and eliminate their competition.  They know Gabriel's and Sals market can't afford to pay that wage, so they will eventually go out of business, and their customers will be forced to shop at the handful of stores that can afford it.  And the skilled butchers working for Sals will get a job at the Walmart meat counter making $10 per hour.

Just another way to destroy the bourgeoisie.


The never ending liberal plan of redistribution of wealth, on the surface is attractive to the workers, but will cost everyone a bundle when Walmart and Golub have no competition.

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Sanders destroyed every GOP claims against raising the minimum wage


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"I say they’re just factually wrong. In my state of Vermont, our minimum wage is $8.60 compared
to the national minimum wage of $7.25. We have one of the lowest unemployment rates in America.
You have states where there is virtually no minimum wage at all, and their unemployment rate is
much higher. The facts just don’t bear it out. The reality is that if we raise the minimum wage to
$10.10 an hour about 30 million Americans would get a pay raise, and 88% of them are adults.
These are not kids. These are working families struggling to keep their heads above water.
They need a pay raise. We’ve gotta pass it."



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Sanders destroyed every GOP claims against raising the minimum wage





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Currently, about 100,000 people in Vermont rely on food assistance benefits, a 75 percent increase from 2008


http://www.timesargus.com/article/20131030/THISJUSTIN/710309911

Yup, raising the minimum wage works great.  Only a socialist would make such a claim in light of this fact.  


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Vt. food stamp use up 80 percent in 4 years

Jan 11, 2010 11:59 AM


http://mobile.boston.com/news/....._percent_in_4_years/


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Vt. food stamp use up 80 percent in 4 years
Jan 11, 2010 11:59 AM


So, according to YOUR DATA:
Yes, that's correct.  Since the economic disaster that was George Worst Bush, less than
one year into the Obama Administration, VERMONT IS UP 80% IN FOOD STAMP USE!

Like much of America, GWB's Economic Meltdown caused the current economic disaster and
America is glad that we had Food Stamps to keep GWB from starving our families!

I'm glad that we both agree on the severity of damage caused by the GOP and GWB on
America's middle class and poor.




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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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After 5 years in office Box is still trying to blame GWB. That dog doesn't hunt anymore.
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After 5 years in office Box is still trying to blame GWB. That dog doesn't hunt anymore.


No Shadow, you're mistaken.
I took Cicero's own words from Jan 2010... and his data, not mine.

In Jan1 2010, Barack Hussein Obama had been in office for LESS THAN ONE YEAR.
Cicero's data went back to Jan 1 2006... One year into the second GWB term.


If anyone is blaming GWB, it's Cicero.
There are some posters (like you) who blame GWB for nothing!  It's called DENIAL!  
Shadow... YOUR DOG NOT ONLY DOESN'T HUNT... HE'S BRAIN DEAD!  


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Income Inequality Worse Under Obama Than George W. Bush

The Huffington Post  |  By Alexander Eichler
Posted: 04/11/2012 6:19 pm Updated: 04/11/2012 6:19 pm

FOLLOW: Barack Obama , George W Bush, Video, 1 Percent, Income Gap, Income Inequality, Buffett Rule, Buffett Tax, Earning Gap, Emmanuel Saez, Top 1 Percent, Wealth Gap, Business News
Income Inequality
President Obama may talk a big game about economic fairness, but his record on the issue doesn't quite match up.

There are lots of reasons to think so -- and we'll touch on several in just a minute -- but the most recent comes from Matt Stoller, blogging at Naked Capitalism, who points us toward a recent bit of number-crunching from Emmanuel Saez, a professor at the University of California, Berkeley.

Saez, who's known for his work on the income gap, has highlighted a surprising and discouraging fact: during the post-recession period of 2009 and 2010, the rich snagged a greater share of total income growth than they did during the boom years of 2002 to 2007.

In other words, inequality has been even more pronounced under Obama than it was under George W. Bush
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Income Inequality Worse Under Obama Than George W. Bush

The Huffington Post  |  By Alexander Eichler
Posted: 04/11/2012 6:19 pm Updated: 04/11/2012 6:19 pm

FOLLOW: Barack Obama , George W Bush, Video, 1 Percent, Income Gap, Income Inequality, Buffett Rule, Buffett Tax, Earning Gap, Emmanuel Saez, Top 1 Percent, Wealth Gap, Business News
Income Inequality
President Obama may talk a big game about economic fairness, but his record on the issue doesn't quite match up.

There are lots of reasons to think so -- and we'll touch on several in just a minute -- but the most recent comes from Matt Stoller, blogging at Naked Capitalism, who points us toward a recent bit of number-crunching from Emmanuel Saez, a professor at the University of California, Berkeley.

Saez, who's known for his work on the income gap, has highlighted a surprising and discouraging fact: during the post-recession period of 2009 and 2010, the rich snagged a greater share of total income growth than they did during the boom years of 2002 to 2007.

In other words, inequality has been even more pronounced under Obama than it was under George W. Bush

When the bottom falls out of the economy, the bottom of the economic scale pay the price
first and longer than the 1% on top.
That trend will probably continue until the economy totally recovers from the Bush Economic
Meltdown.  




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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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So, according to YOUR DATA:
Yes, that's correct.  Since the economic disaster that was George Worst Bush, less than
one year into the Obama Administration, VERMONT IS UP 80% IN FOOD STAMP USE!

Like much of America, GWB's Economic Meltdown caused the current economic disaster and
America is glad that we had Food Stamps to keep GWB from starving our families!

I'm glad that we both agree on the severity of damage caused by the GOP and GWB on
America's middle class and poor.



So the minimum wage increase didn't fix it like your pal Bernie says?  Bernie should have said that Vermont minimum wage increase created more working poor in his state - by 80%!

Ole bernie boy shouldn't claim fixes to problems not fixed.


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So the minimum wage increase didn't fix it like your pal Bernie says?
  Bernie should have said that Vermont minimum wage increase created
more working poor in his state - by 80%!




Are those on minimum wage also those receiving food stamps???
Are those on minimum wage who do receive food stamps, increasing as you assume???
Are those who work at minimum wage now off of food stamps while those with no
income now on food stamps???
You make assumptions... but offer nothing but (as usual) OPINION!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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