You're so right....let's not check for colon cancer! Let's wait and see if we get it!!!
Let's not check prostates....we can deal with it AFTER it becomes an issue.
Let's not check for white blood count and irregularities.... we should wait and see if we have a problem and then get it checked!
YOU ARE SO RIGHT...let's not be proactive, it's better to be reactive!!!!!!
It is not health insurance then. Your car insurance premium doesn't pay for break changes, oil changes, replace bald tires, or replace headlights. If that was the case, everybody would have it done whether they need it or not, and prices would explode. Preventative maintenance is the individuals responsibility.
It is not health insurance then. Your car insurance premium doesn't pay for break changes, oil changes, replace bald tires, or replace headlights. If that was the case, everybody would have it done whether they need it or not, and prices would explode. Preventative maintenance is the individuals responsibility.
Um Cissy. Car insurance is different from Life insurance is different from Flood insurance is different from Travel insurance is different from Health Care Insurance.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
It is not health insurance then. Your car insurance premium doesn't pay for break changes, oil changes, replace bald tires, or replace headlights. If that was the case, everybody would have it done whether they need it or not, and prices would explode. Preventative maintenance is the individuals responsibility.
You apply your definition, because I know you can't accept the "accepted definition" and understanding that the majority of people would know it to be.... I didn't call it PREVENTIVE HEALTH INSURANCE, because if you weren't trying to be a jerk, you would know there is a significant difference than what you are trying to compare it to....but then again, that's CISSY'S GAME!!!!
You describe "preventive maintenance" and they do offer such plans you can purchase. But those will be preventative maintenance...like you explained. They won't cover a blown engine, busted transmission, broken steering wheel or a broken frame....because those are not "maintenance" items.
GET IT?????????
So let's understand your side...."Preventative maintenance is the individuals responsibility." Explain how you check your prostate and colon for potential cancer? Explain how you check your white blood count to see if there are abnormalities that are precursors to something concerning?
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
So let's understand your side...."Preventative maintenance is the individuals responsibility." Explain how you check your prostate and colon for potential cancer?
Joe.
YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT CICERO CHECKS HIS PROSTATE DAILY, ALL BY HIMSELF! AND HE SEEMS TO ENJOY THE VIEW!!!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
You're so right....let's not check for colon cancer! Let's wait and see if we get it!!!
Let's not check prostates....we can deal with it AFTER it becomes an issue.
Let's not check for white blood count and irregularities.... we should wait and see if we have a problem and then get it checked!
YOU ARE SO RIGHT...let's not be proactive, it's better to be reactive!!!!!!
getting probed is proactive to you????
kind of like the weapons of mass destruction conversation allowing pre-emptive wars?
really?
maybe,,,just MAYBE....the 10 corporations that control our food supply and all the other fu(king chemicals that CAUSE the issues should get fu(king probed.....alas they are the masters of the global status quo in trade and national insurance(healthcare) is ANOTHER link in the slave chain.....
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
It is not health insurance then. Your car insurance premium doesn't pay for break changes, oil changes, replace bald tires, or replace headlights. If that was the case, everybody would have it done whether they need it or not, and prices would explode. Preventative maintenance is the individuals responsibility.
You apply your definition, because I know you can't accept the "accepted definition" and understanding that the majority of people would know it to be.... I didn't call it PREVENTIVE HEALTH INSURANCE, because if you weren't trying to be a jerk, you would know there is a significant difference than what you are trying to compare it to....but then again, that's CISSY'S GAME!!!!
You describe "preventive maintenance" and they do offer such plans you can purchase. But those will be preventative maintenance...like you explained. They won't cover a blown engine, busted transmission, broken steering wheel or a broken frame....because those are not "maintenance" items.
GET IT?????????
So let's understand your side...."Preventative maintenance is the individuals responsibility." Explain how you check your prostate and colon for potential cancer? Explain how you check your white blood count to see if there are abnormalities that are precursors to something concerning?
the majority of people live in sheer fear of getting hurt/old/disabled etc.....and the INSURANCE gives a 'piece of mind' based upon actuarial science theory....
do you know your healthcare score? kinda like your credit score......
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
So let's understand your side...."Preventative maintenance is the individuals responsibility." Explain how you check your prostate and colon for potential cancer? Explain how you check your white blood count to see if there are abnormalities that are precursors to something concerning?
You check your prostate the same way you get your bald tires replaced and mounted. YOU GO TO A PROFESSIONAL THAT HAS THE EQUIPMENT AND EXPERTISE AND PULL OUT YOUR CHECK BOOK AND PAY THEM. I know, it's a radical concept.
You apply your definition, because I know you can't accept the "accepted definition" and understanding that the majority of people would know it to be.... I didn't call it PREVENTIVE HEALTH INSURANCE, because if you weren't trying to be a jerk, you would know there is a significant difference than what you are trying to compare it to....but then again, that's CISSY'S GAME!!!!
You describe "preventive maintenance" and they do offer such plans you can purchase. But those will be preventative maintenance...like you explained. They won't cover a blown engine, busted transmission, broken steering wheel or a broken frame....because those are not "maintenance" items.
GET IT?????????
So let's understand your side...."Preventative maintenance is the individuals responsibility." Explain how you check your prostate and colon for potential cancer? Explain how you check your white blood count to see if there are abnormalities that are precursors to something concerning?
example: you're an overweight out of shape slob, who eats kraft mac and cheese(because that's american diet) and pizza and subs and chinese take out etc etc.....explain to me where the preventative comes in??????
OH WAIT!!!!!! let me give it to you like the military get it.....
HEY, A$$HOLE,,,,GET DOWN A PUSH OUT 250 THEN WE GO FOR A 26 MILE HIKE WITH YOUR PACK ON......
government mandated 'choices'.....
happy....now the government looks like you control it and they get to tell your neighbor what a lazy a$$ they are and what to do to keep YOUR health insurance 'taxes' down.....
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
Dr. Senders, What other procedures would you recommend to proactively determine if there are potential life threatening issues with a person's colon or prostate. Please enlighten me. Unless you prescribe to the Cissyboy methodology!
Yes, probing is uncomfortable and really embarrassing and not something I really want to do.....but if it is THE ONLY methods available to determine issues early enough to be treated, then unless you have some Medical alternative, guess probing is my only choice. You can choose not to have it and take your chances.... I prefer to be PROACTIVE!
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
You check your prostate the same way you get your bald tires replaced and mounted. YOU GO TO A PROFESSIONAL THAT HAS THE EQUIPMENT AND EXPERTISE AND PULL OUT YOUR CHECK BOOK AND PAY THEM. I know, it's a radical concept.
ISN'T THAT WHAT I SAID THAT!!!!!!!!! Health care pays for you to get checked! Why is that so hard to understand! DUH!!!!
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
example: you're an overweight out of shape slob, who eats kraft mac and cheese(because that's american diet) and pizza and subs and chinese take out etc etc.....explain to me where the preventative comes in??????
OH WAIT!!!!!! let me give it to you like the military get it.....
HEY, A$$HOLE,,,,GET DOWN A PUSH OUT 250 THEN WE GO FOR A 26 MILE HIKE WITH YOUR PACK ON......
government mandated 'choices'.....
happy....now the government looks like you control it and they get to tell your neighbor what a lazy a$$ they are and what to do to keep YOUR health insurance 'taxes' down.....
WOW, now that is so enlightening!!!
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
let me get this straight and please correct me if I am wrong....
you're saying that the 'age windows' of when to get colonoscopy/mammogram etc are fine and everyone should be excited to line up like cattle have it done and when nothing is found but 2 years later you have 'issues' you go back and it's stage 4 because it's NOT exact science, it's stats and we're lab rats......
it's called fear care.....A LOT of mammograms and colonoscopys are either false positives and/or inconclusive......
Angelina Jolie removed her boobs out of fear.....she can afford the BEST plastics MD and no one would have had to known but going public made her/him a 'hero'....out of fear?????? really
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
let me get this straight and please correct me if I am wrong....
you're saying that the 'age windows' of when to get colonoscopy/mammogram etc are fine and everyone should be excited to line up like cattle have it done and when nothing is found but 2 years later you have 'issues' you go back and it's stage 4 because it's NOT exact science, it's stats and we're lab rats......
it's called fear care.....A LOT of mammograms and colonoscopys are either false positives and/or inconclusive......
Angelina Jolie removed her boobs out of fear.....she can afford the BEST plastics MD and no one would have had to known but going public made her/him a 'hero'....out of fear?????? really
OK, you offered no less invasive method, so guess you don't know of an alternative.
Let's be clear (and you have said before you are a caregiver, so should really know this)....
First, the "age window" as you have called it, is historically based on susceptibility. It is a guide and by no means definitive and exact. I am aware of people in there 20's and others under 50 that have had colonoscopies at the recommendation of their personal Physician because of some indicator.....see, that's called PROACTIVE!!!!
IF (notice I said "IF", during a colonoscopy something is found, and the polyps are small, they can be removed at that time (and tested after for cancerous cells). So there is immediate care without having to go through more intensive procedures. IF (there's that word again), ANYTHING is discovered, then there are follow-up procedures to determine if there is a malignancy or not. So if it is a FALSE POSITIVE, there are procedures for follow-up to determine the validity. Also, IF (there it is again), a person is concerned about the diagnosis, they can get a second opinion, and the health care program pays for that.
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
Dr. Senders, What other procedures would you recommend to proactively determine if there are potential life threatening issues with a person's colon or prostate. Please enlighten me. Unless you prescribe to the Cissyboy methodology!
Yes, probing is uncomfortable and really embarrassing and not something I really want to do.....but if it is THE ONLY methods available to determine issues early enough to be treated, then unless you have some Medical alternative, guess probing is my only choice. You can choose not to have it and take your chances.... I prefer to be PROACTIVE!
I'm not a doctor but I have taken care of hundreds of elderly people.....they know....and I listen....
little Johnny is born 'poor'...he's not starving but his diet consists of pizza pockets/box cereal/milk/eggs/oj/box mac and cheese/peanut butter etc..you get my drift....Johnny grows up learns a trade and 'makes it' to the middle class... Johnny gets married at 28 and him and his wife have 3 kids...Johnny's not 'poor' anymore and now finds freedom to buy things like pizza/chinese, maybe even go to the local applebees with the family a couple times a month...they get to do all those things he couldn't as a kid, like go to the movies, the mall, game rooms etc...Johnny works a lot of hours to 'get that edge' and doesn't find time to 'play' outside and really doesn't eat whole foods at breakfast or lunch grabbing a NUTRI-GRAIN BAR, that's got vitamins, it says so....he doesn't eat butter, because the doc said that's bad for his cholesterol so he opts for the chemical margarine like he's told....
Johnny is 42 years old, his prostate is 'iffy', he's borderline diabetic, his joints hurt a lot and he might have some joint disease setting in and he's got a little osteoporosis, he used to smoke back in the day and he still consumes the equivalent of a 12 pack of beer a week, switching between whisky and beer when he's bowling with the guys or at family functions. He's now taking a statin lower his cholesterol and now his bones hurt and he takes either ibuprofen or tylenol to help with the pain. Johnny has his colonoscopy and prostate test and everything is good.
Johnny is 53 years old he has a heart attack and needs a bypass. mean while his carotid arteries are 30% occluded but no roto-router for him because the actuarial risk isn't high enough. Johnny is still taking the tylenol regularly and now he takes an aspirin daily as prescribed by his MD. He's still working many hours but not as many as before.
Johnny is 63 years old. He's driving home from work one day, feels dizzy and pulls over. He calls his wife who then calls 911...Johnny's carotid arteries are now 75% and 40% occluded and qualifies for the surgery. Johnny is left with some residual stroke effects. Johnny 'changes' his diet eating all the packaged food that has that nice food pyramid on it.
Johnny is 67 and decides to retire. The kids are married and he wants to spend time with the grand kids. Johnny goes for his 'mandated' prostate test and colonoscopy. Johnny has stage 4 prostate cancer that has metastisized to his colon. Johnny spends the last 3 years of his life with a colostomy and an indwelling urinary catheter. He still takes the statin to lower his cholesterol and the aspirin.
Johnny looks back and tells the story of his poor childhood that he didn't really deem poor. But now he understands poor food and rich food. being fed by the 'man' and feeding yourself. but he never says "at least, I had those tests and I'm alive." what Johnny does say is "take care of yourself and don't waste your time working for the 'man', question everything and educate yourself and don't let fear rule your life."
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
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