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Box A Rox
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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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More speculation from Box. Rumor has it that there are a lot of large companies will dump their company sponsored plans in the future and their employees will be put in the exchanges. Tell me Box will that happen?
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More speculation from Box. Rumor has it that there are a lot of large companies will dump their company sponsored plans in the future and their employees will be put in the exchanges. Tell me Box will that happen?


LMAO @ "RUMOR HAS IT!"  

If it weren't for "RUMORS" Shadow wouldn't have anything to post!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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More speculation from Box. Rumor has it that there are a lot of large companies will dump their company sponsored plans in the future and their employees will be put in the exchanges. Tell me Box will that happen?


It isn't a rumor shadow!! GE's retirees, thru out the country are having a scheduled meeting this month to discuss the changes in their health insurance.  Now they may have to pay the Obama-fee like the ge workers have to do now.  I'll keep ya posted.  

Remember tho..........this fiasco was planned and gov almighty KNEW....both the dems and reps that this was going to be a BEAST!

Time for a FALSE FLAG....eh?!!!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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It isn't a rumor shadow!! GE's retirees, thru out the country are having a scheduled meeting this month to discuss the changes in their health insurance.  Now they may have to pay the Obama-fee like the ge workers have to do now.  I'll keep ya posted.  
Remember tho..........this fiasco was planned and gov almighty KNEW....both the dems and reps that this was going to be a BEAST!
Time for a FALSE FLAG....eh?!!!


Yes I've Seen That Notice!!!

It states:
If you want to keep your same healthcare plan, do nothing,  you don't need to attend the meeting.
The meeting is a yearly event to discuss health care options.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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It isn't a rumor shadow!! GE's retirees, thru out the country are having a scheduled meeting this month to discuss the changes in their health insurance.  Now they may have to pay the Obama-fee like the ge workers have to do now.  I'll keep ya posted.  
Remember tho..........this fiasco was planned and gov almighty KNEW....both the dems and reps that this was going to be a BEAST!
Time for a FALSE FLAG....eh?!!!

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Yes I've Seen That Notice!!!
It states:
If you want to keep your same healthcare plan, do nothing,  you don't need to attend the meeting.
The meeting is a yearly event to discuss health care options.


Another Shadow Rumor Shot to $hit!  


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More Companies Set To End Their Employee Health Plans Due To ObamaCare

Posted September 26, 2013
“The Nation’s Largest Provider Of Security Guards Plans To Discontinue Its Lowest-Cost Health Plans.” “The nation’s largest provider of security guards plans to discontinue its lowest-cost health plans and steer roughly 55,000 workers to new government-sponsored insurance exchanges for coverage next year, in the latest sign of the fraying ties between employment and health care.” (Scott Thrush, “Firms Drop, Rather Than Upgrade, Cheapest Health Plans”, The Wall Street Journal, 9/25/13)
Securitas Will Join “More Than 1,200 Employers” That Are Dropping Their Plan. “The U.S. arm of Sweden’s Securitas AB SECU-B.SK is among more than 1,200 employers that offer the kind of bare-bones health plans that must be phased out beginning Jan. 1 under the health-care law.” (Scott Thrush, “Firms Drop, Rather Than Upgrade, Cheapest Health Plans”, The Wall Street Journal, 9/25/13)
A Houston Home Construction Owner Says That ObamaCare Has Forced Him To End A Health Care Plan That His Employees Loved. “Marek Family of Cos., a Houston-based home builder, began offering a mini-med about eight years ago, after executives saw that few hourly workers were enrolled in the company’s more traditional insurance, said Larry Williams, director of human resources. Marek pays the full premium cost for its plan, which limits an employee’s benefits to $60,000 a year. ‘Employees loved that plan, that’s what they wanted,’ Mr. Williams said. He said Marek is considering a plan like Guadalupe’s with a relatively high deductible, as well as a plan offering limited benefits that complies with the law. Mr. Williams expects those options to be more costly and said employees likely will have to contribute.” (Scott Thrush, “Firms Drop, Rather Than Upgrade, Cheapest Health Plans”, The Wall Street Journal, 9/25/13)
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Sometimes it's better to keep your mouth shut and just let people think your an idiot, you always have to prove it.
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More Companies Set To End Their Employee Health Plans Due To ObamaCare

Posted September 26, 2013
“The Nation’s Largest Provider Of Security Guards Plans To Discontinue Its Lowest-Cost Health Plans.” “The nation’s largest provider of security guards plans to discontinue its lowest-cost health plans and steer roughly 55,000 workers to new government-sponsored insurance exchanges for coverage next year..............

Could it be becuase the LOWEST COST plans don't meet the minimum requirements of the ACA?  Without knowing specifics, this is just a reporting that may be skewing facts as a result!
Will those employees pay more?  get better coverage??? pay the same????  all unknowns because article doesn't provide those important details!!!!!



JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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Many of the law’s relevant provisions take effect in 2014. Our research suggests that when employers become more aware of the new economic and social incentives embedded in the law and of the option to restructure benefits beyond dropping or keeping them, many will make dramatic changes. The Congressional Budget Office has estimated that only about 7 percent of employees currently covered by employer-sponsored insurance (ESI) will have to switch to subsidized-exchange policies in 2014. However, our early-2011 survey of more than 1,300 employers across industries, geographies, and employer sizes, as well as other proprietary research, found that reform will provoke a much greater response (see sidebar “Details regarding the survey methodology”).

Overall, 30 percent of employers will definitely or probably stop offering ESI in the years after 2014.

Among employers with a high awareness of reform, this proportion increases to more than 50 percent, and upward of 60 percent will pursue some alternative to traditional ESI.

At least 30 percent of employers would gain economically from dropping coverage even if they completely compensated employees for the change through other benefit offerings or higher salaries.

Contrary to what many employers assume, more than 85 percent of employees would remain at their jobs even if their employer stopped offering ESI, although about 60 percent would expect increased compensation.    http://www.mckinsey.com/insigh.....ct_employee_benefits
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Quoted from Shadow
Sometimes it's better to keep your mouth shut and just let people think your an idiot, you always have to prove it.




^5 ^5


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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Quoted from Shadow
Sometimes it's better to keep your mouth shut and just let people think your an idiot, you always have to prove it.


Shadow did a poor job posting often quoted phrases:

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt."
or
"It’s better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt."

These quotes have been attributed to many historical figures from Abraham Lincoln to Mark Twain to
The Bible.
http://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/05/17/remain-silent/


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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KEEPING your employers plan with a surcharge because it's to expensive to have your sig other take their own at their own job
or via ACA....ISN'T fu(king choice it's extortion....

via employer XYZ:

if your spouse has other employer-sponsored medical coverage available but chooses XYZ company coverage, you will pay a monthly
surcharge of $125 in addition to your medical plan premium.
please note that this does NOT apply if your spouse only has access to medicare or if he or she is also employed by XYZ. you will
see a spousal surcharge section when enrolling through the XYZ benefits solution center website.

I left out company name, but this was sent out.


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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It wasn't in quotes Box that was just my opinion.
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KEEPING your employers plan with a surcharge because it's to expensive to have your sig other take their own at their own job
or via ACA....ISN'T fu(king choice it's extortion....

via employer XYZ:


please note that this does NOT apply if your spouse only has access to medicare.


IF YOU ARE 65 YEARS OLD, AND DON'T WANT TO RETIRE, AND WANT TO KEEP YOUR PRESENT HEALTH INSURANCE VIA YOUR EMPLOYER...........YOU CAN'T..........YOU HAVE TO TAKE MEDICARE!!!! And since you are still working and not taking your social security.....gov almighty will be sending you a bill every 3 months....PLUS.....you have to get a supplemental health insurance policy along side your medicare!!

Yup....extortion!!!



When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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