How many guns did the Germans have in Nazi Germany.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
LOL. One sentence by Bernard Harcourt, and box has the complete history of Nazi Gun Control.
I guess Hitler's ban on guns for “enemies of the National Socialist state” don't count as gun control. He then proceeded to exterminate those very people he restricted guns to. Sounds like today's gun grabbers, willing to give certain weapons to certain "qualifed" Americans and restricting them for those deemed enemies to society. Like the NYS Safe Act, Governemnt agents can have weapons and ammo capacities that the citizens cannot. Cops can have AR15, everybody else - NO. Hitler had very similar laws. The SS and Brown Shirts were allowed to own guns, and the others labeled enemies of the National Socialist state were not. We call the enemies of the state "mentally ill", "felons", "extremist" or whoever the party in charge wants to label "enemies".
LOL. One sentence by Bernard Harcourt, and box has the complete history of Nazi Gun Control.
I guess Hitler's ban on guns for “enemies of the National Socialist state” don't count as gun control. He then proceeded to exterminate those very people he restricted guns to. Sounds like today's gun grabbers, willing to give certain weapons to certain "qualifed" Americans and restricting them for those deemed enemies to society. Like the NYS Safe Act, Governemnt agents can have weapons and ammo capacities that the citizens cannot. Cops can have AR15, everybody else - NO. Hitler had very similar laws. The SS and Brown Shirts were allowed to own guns, and the others labeled enemies of the National Socialist state were not. We call the enemies of the state "mentally ill", "felons", "extremist" or whoever the party in charge wants to label "enemies".
Cicero's post, after his latest history lesson, still leaves some facts quite vague. By Cissy's post you'd think that the only people owning guns in Nazi Germany were the SS and the Brown Shirts. Cissy mentions that those on the enemy list, Jews, the mentally ill, fellons etc were excluded from owning guns... but the rest of Germany??? Those not SS, Brown Shirts or on the enemy list... The Vast Majority Of Germans??? They were allowed to own guns ONCE THE NAZI'S DEREGULATED GERMAN GUN LAWS.
Cissy is hoping to bury this issue under his (lack of) history lesson. The FACTS REMAIN...
THE NAZI'S in Germany, just like the GUNHUGGERS in the this country BOTH WANT TO DEREGULATE FIREARMS.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
...oh, the "gun huggers" want to restrict guns for Jews? Or are you leaving that part out?
Box, who imposed the gun regulations that Germany deregulated(for some).
Cic is getting more desparate with every post!
Gun restrictions when the Nazis took power were deregulated under Hitler. Just as today in the USA, GunHuggers want to deregulate our gun laws. The Right Wing GunHuggers have for years promoted the false claim that Nazi's were the party of Gun Regulation, but as with many Right Wing Myths... the opposite is true. On this issue, the Right Wingers are on the side of the Nazis.
The Nazi's, like Cicero, didn't think much of their countries constitution. The legal measures taken by the new Nazi government in February and March 1933, commonly known as the machtergreifung (seizure of power) meant that the government could legislate contrary to their "constitution." Cicero, like the Nazi's thinks that the US Constitution is unnecessary and prefers "natural rights" which Cic views as more valid and more relivant than our Constitution.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
I honestly believe that box's generation was born into the zeitgeist of totalitarianism and cannot envision what freedom truly is. Liberty has never been experienced or even imagined.
Gun restrictions when the Nazis took power were deregulated under Hitler. Just as today in the USA, GunHuggers want to deregulate our gun laws. The Right Wing GunHuggers have for years promoted the false claim that Nazi's were the party of Gun Regulation, but as with many Right Wing Myths... the opposite is true. On this issue, the Right Wingers are on the side of the Nazis.
The Nazi's, like Cicero, didn't think much of their countries constitution. The legal measures taken by the new Nazi government in February and March 1933, commonly known as the machtergreifung (seizure of power) meant that the government could legislate contrary to their "constitution." Cicero, like the Nazi's thinks that the US Constitution is unnecessary and prefers "natural rights" which Cic views as more valid and more relivant than our Constitution.
You didn't answer the question. WHO regualated guns in Germany?(hint - 1919) Who banned guns for Jews and other enemies of national socialism and allowed them for what was considered German nationalists? I don't recall the pro gun supports suggesting discriminatory regulations. That's what the gun grabbers support.
The Nazi's, like Cicero, didn't think much of their countries constitution. The legal measures taken by the new Nazi government in February and March 1933, commonly known as the machtergreifung (seizure of power) meant that the government could legislate contrary to their "constitution." Cicero, like the Nazi's thinks that the US Constitution is unnecessary and prefers "natural rights" which Cic views as more valid and more relivant than our Constitution.
You're so funny box. Hey, Hindenberg(Hitler's predecessor) used the same measures in 1930 that Hitler used to seize executive power, it was called Article 48. Hitler used the same measure that was used by successive governments to subvert the German Constitution using The Reichstag Fire as a reason(and it wasn't subversion, it was LEGAL). C'mon box, learn your history. Article 48 WAS legal. Just like our Patriot Act, Warrantless Wiretaps, the NDAA, and the array of other unconstitutional measures that eliminated the Constitutional guarantees listed in the 4th and 5th Amendments.
I wouldn't expect an extreme liberal to understand the complexity of what I am about to say -- but here it goes. NAZI Germany only believed in gun ownership by those who supported the NAZI regime --- and opposed gun ownership for any group of persons who OPPOSED the regime. In that way, the Obama administration and the Pelosi-palooza in Congress is quite similar to the NAZI regime -- disarm all potential opponents while ensuring that the extremist sycophants can remain armed to the teeth.
Furthermore, the drafters of the US Constitution specifically included the 2nd Amendment right to bear arms so that EVERY citizen had the right to bear arms -- not just those citizens who supported the "majority of the moment" or the "powers that be."
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"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground." Lyndon Baines Johnson
I wouldn't expect an extreme liberal to understand the complexity of what I am about to say -- but here it goes. NAZI Germany only believed in gun ownership by those who supported the NAZI regime --- and opposed gun ownership for any group of persons who OPPOSED the regime. In that way, the Obama administration and the Pelosi-palooza in Congress is quite similar to the NAZI regime -- disarm all potential opponents while ensuring that the extremist sycophants can remain armed to the teeth.
Furthermore, the drafters of the US Constitution specifically included the 2nd Amendment right to bear arms so that EVERY citizen had the right to bear arms -- not just those citizens who supported the "majority of the moment" or the "powers that be."
DISARM? I keep heareing this word over and over among the Rabid Right... Disarm!!!
As a supporter of the 2nd amendment, I find it laughable that the word DISARM is used to subvert the will of the people. Clearly, almost no one thinks that the Rigtht to Bear Arms is an unlimited right... for any kind of weapon for any purpose by anyone... Like most RIGHTS, the 2nd has limitations. In this case, as in the past, limiting the type of weapons that are for sale.
The legislation proposed will DISARM no one. Any citizen who could purchase a weapon before this legislation can purchase a weapon after it's enacted. Has anyone's right to purchase a weapon been taken away by these laws????
ANYONE???
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
The legislation proposed will DISARM no one. Any citizen who could purchase a weapon before this legislation can purchase a weapon after it's enacted. Has anyone's right to purchase a weapon been taken away by these laws????
ANYONE???
Which laws? The NYS Safe Act? Yes, you can't own certain style rifles, you can't own certain style shotgun. You can't purchase certain capacity magazines. This federal legislation also wants to ban guns for the "mentally ill"(which has no clear definition and subjective) which means yes again to limiting a person's right to purchase a weapon.
clearly almost everyone believes that the authority is the master of them...
it's like drug testing for jobs/welfare etc....WASTE OF $$$$....
I don't have to prove my humaness to ANYONE prior to MY CHOICE.....if you feel the need to 'prove' your right to exist and your right to choice then go ahead and lick the soles of your masters shoes....
you disagree with religion mixed with government, as I do, yet you elevate the government to a god-head over your life...
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
Which laws? The NYS Safe Act? Yes, you can't own certain style rifles, you can't own certain style shotgun. You can't purchase certain capacity magazines. This federal legislation also wants to ban guns for the "mentally ill"(which has no clear definition and subjective) which means yes again to limiting a person's right to purchase a weapon.
Can we assume by his post that Cicero is in FAVOR of Weapons For The Mentally Ill???
Figures
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Don;'t worry, Box has a nice gulag or ghetto for you to live in. HEIL BOX!
"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
Can we assume by his post that Cicero is in FAVOR of Weapons For The Mentally Ill???
Figures
Then don't say "any" citizen can purchase a gun under this new legislation. Say that only citizens the government deem qualified can own certain guns approved by the government. Be accurate.
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