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Libertarian4life
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Let me preface this post - IT IS ONLY A TONGUE AND CHEEK JOKE

Live alone - Check
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Firearms - Check

Do not utter one word criticizing the Federal Government, Box is apt to alert the Department of Homeland Security
of a suspected domestic terrorist.


Only the right wing Vets are terrorist suspects. The rest are possible high risk suicides.

Well for the ones over 50 years of age.

Ask the Box of Studies and Polls.


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... I may be coming around to supporting Cuomo in getting guns out of the hands of the mentally disturbed.  


Today on Google news they claim that mentally unstable people smoke 30% of all cigarettes and that
mentally impaired people have a 70% chance of being a smoker.

They making a case for something.



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You got it backwards Senders... Every one who enters the military is evaluated for mental stability...
civilians on the other hand... are not. Those who are found to have mental illness issues are not
allowed to enlist, or weeded out early in the process and return to the civilian group... which concentrates
the mentally ill among the civilians.  

Those who put their time in serving their country have proven themselves to be stable and able to meet
at least basic requirements to work in a large group... learn responsibility and to be self sufficient.  

The vast majority of the 9 million US Vietnam era veterans have no issues from that war.  Unlike their
civilian counterparts, many of whom spent their 'Vietnam years, in a drug induced stupor leaving them
mentally burned out and useless.

You can find very stable and very mentally ill in both groups... The military group has been evaluated
and the mentally ill eliminated into the civilian group.  
Glad I'm in the more sane group!  





1.5 million vets have PTSD.



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Today on Google news they claim that mentally unstable people smoke 30% of all cigarettes and that
mentally impaired people have a 70% chance of being a smoker.

They making a case for something.






and 85% drink alcohol


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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1.5 million vets have PTSD.





And have a higher chance of being homeless, probably also linked to mental health.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Only the right wing Vets are terrorist suspects. The rest are possible high risk suicides.
Well for the ones over 50 years of age.
Ask the Box of Studies and Polls.



Don't drag me into your insultfest.  
If you want some data, then look it up yourself.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Don't drag me into your insultfest.  
If you want some data, then look it up yourself.


you lose...X military = danger


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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you lose...X military = danger


An avid supporter of self justification for killing anyone they want.

I'll bet he's on Chris Dorner's friend's list.

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Court to review rushed approval of NY gun controls
Updated: Friday, March 1 2013, 07:46 PM EST
ALBANY -- A group of 1,200 New Yorkers has forced a court review of whether New York's new gun controls were rushed into law in violation of the state constitution.

Robert Schulz of Warren County calls Gov. Andrew Cuomo a "king" for pushing through the nation's toughest gun law by suspending the three-day review usually required before votes on bills.

Cuomo and legislative leaders agreed on the bill in closed-door negotiations and put the politically dicey measure to a vote at night in mid-January. That was after Cuomo issued a "message of necessity," which allows the constitutional waiting period to be suspended.

Schulz and his co-plaintiffs won an order Friday that will require the governor and Legislature to prove the message of necessity was warranted.

Cuomo had no initial comment.
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Albany's Sheriff Announces Opposition to NY SAFEAct

Written by New York Citizen One

Friday, March 01, 2013 16:41


Tonight at 7PM, Sheriff Craig Apple, will be addressing a crowd at the Medusa Fire House in the Hill Towns of Albany County. He was invited to the event by the Tea Party to explain the SAFEAct.

Armed with a PowerPoint presentation showing the weapons of choice in Albany County and the varying degrees of effectiveness of the Cuomo Law, this Democratic Sheriff, one of only three Democratic Sheriffs in New York State (so he tells me) will show the Hill Town residents just exactly why he is opposed to Governor Cuomo’s SAFEAct.

You heard that right, in this Dark Blue County, our Sheriff is not doing what the Dems tell him to do, he is doing what’s right and just. It was like listening to my inner voice as the Sheriff told of how “blunt” objects are more dangerous than guns…and how it’s the person who is evil…not the weapon of choice.

The Sheriff agreed with me that the only way to stop the crime is to stop the real illegal guns…the community guns and this hodgepodged joke of a law does absolutely nothing but force law abiding citizens to become outlaws. The Sheriff himself, will be an outlaw on the day this law goes into effect but he will be shipping his “then illegal” guns to his brother rather than be a labeled a criminal. (Darn, there goes my citizen’s arrest #2!)

Apple was clear that he is still adamant in his support of the SNUG program so I guess we’ll still continue our disagreement on that topic but at least we have different reasons for our positions there.

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The Sheriff can oppose what ever law he chooses... he doesn't make the laws.  It's his job to enforce
the laws enacted by our elected officials.

If the Sheriff doesn't want to enforce state laws...he should resign and make way for someone who does.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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The Sheriff can oppose what ever law he chooses... he doesn't make the laws.  It's his job to enforce
the laws enacted by our elected officials.

If the Sheriff doesn't want to enforce state laws...he should resign and make way for someone who does.


The presidents job is also to enforce the laws.  Yet he chose not enforce immigration laws he doesn't agree with.  So Obama should take your advice and resign and make way for someone that does.


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Good one Cicero that was game, set, match.
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The Sheriff can oppose what ever law he chooses... he doesn't make the laws.  It's his job to enforce
the laws enacted by our elected officials.


Nope its the sherrifs job to follow the oath to the Constitution that he took as did most elected officials when they are sworn in.

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Nope its the sherrifs job to follow the oath to the Constitution that he took as did most elected officials when they are sworn in.



YUP! and it's the US Supreme Court's job to define exactly what is meant in the US Constitution... If a
sheriff has any doubt to the meaning of a particular law, his responsibility is to contact the state attorney
general for a clear definition.  Then... HIS RESPONSIBILITY IS TO ENFORCE THE LAWS... not interpret them.

Any law enforcement official who has a moral conflict enforcing the law should resign if he can't carry out
his oath to UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION.  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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