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AIDS spreading when we can easily reduce those numbers is not 'OK' for me.  Preventing AIDS was the
goal, not 'changing human behavior'.


easily? really? you do know that some humans myself include take the easiest path to get their desire...if that means
rolling over in some dirtbag hotel and asking the person next to you use their needle because you don't wan't to truck your
a** to the clinic because it's raining out.....



...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Out of touch with the rest of America






http://www.people-press.org/20.....eir-personal-rights/
The latest national survey by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press, conducted Jan. 9-13 among 1,502 adults, finds that 53% think that the federal government threatens their own personal rights and freedoms while 43% disagree.


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easily? really? you do know that some humans myself include take the easiest path to get their desire...if that means
rolling over in some dirtbag hotel and asking the person next to you use their needle because you don't wan't to truck your
a** to the clinic because it's raining out.....



OMG, you doubt that loyal comrades would not make the trip to get free needles and condoms?

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You completely ignore the fact that a certain percentage of people are corrupt,
and that no law will change that, you will merely get them a higher price.

OK, let's assume every person with a gun agrees to a background check before
releasing the gun to a buyer.

Next a nutcase wants a gun. He asks some heroin or crack addict to make the purchase.
Nutcase wins, stupid law bypassed.

You do understand the effects of prohibition and profiteering right?
Go ahead, start another unwinnable enforcement action that will make the wrong people rich.


Supply and demand work in crime just as they do in the legal world.

If the AWB causes the cost of an illegal AR15 to double in price, then it will no doubt put that price out of
the range of some criminals.  If they are less plentiful, there are less to be sold on the streets illegally.
If a 30 round magazine is illegal, it won't be as available as it is today.

One point that is often discounted by GunHuggers... If there is a definite background check for any legal
gun purchase, those who are felons will not even bother attempting a gun sale at a gun show.  
It may not make it impossible to own an illegal assault weapon, but it will make it more difficult.
IF all guns are traceable, all guns used in a crime can be traced to a legal owner and in many cases
lead to a conviction.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Quoted from CICERO





http://www.people-press.org/20.....eir-personal-rights/
The latest national survey by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press, conducted Jan. 9-13
among 1,502 adults, finds that 53% think that the federal government threatens their own personal rights and freedoms
while 43% disagree.


Nothing like gun grabbers yapping to tip the scales against themselves.

Carry concealed applications have went off the charts since the gun grabbers started whining.


Plus, from Gallup, most Americans are satisfied with current gun laws.

43% are satisfied, 5% are dissatisfied by would like the laws less strict, and 8% would like the laws to remain the same.

That's 56% that don't want tougher gun laws.

38% are dissatisfied and want tougher gun laws.




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All thinking, caring people support the needle exchange.
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All thinking, caring people support the needle exchange.


I wouldn't even require exchange, just make them freely available and no one would need to share.

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Oregon Internet Cafe GunHugger Shoots Himself With Holstered Gun!  

(Glad no reasonable person was injured)

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An Oregon man who was said to be “familiar with guns” accidentally shot himself with a
holstered weapon that he was openly carrying at an Internet cafe in Eugene on Thursday.

Eugene Police said that a 26-year-old man was in the Indras Internet Lounge restroom at
around 3 p.m. when his holstered gun discharged and hit him in the thigh. Five people were
in the business at the time of the shooting.

“He drug himself out of the bathroom and we helped him tie a tourniquet around his leg,”
cafe manager James Sherburne told The Register-Guard. “He got lucky, I think.”


GunHuggers are so entertaining!!!



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Quoted from Yossi
All thinking, caring people support the needle exchange.


Thinking, caring people???
You've just excluded a large group on this board.  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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I would even support this one of included everyone, police, military and civilians.

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No clear majority to pass new gun laws

Pass stronger gun control laws

2011 Jan 14-16     

Strongly favor
26%     

Favor
23%     

Oppose
23%     

Strongly
oppose
27%     
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I don't oppose background checks for gun shows.

I do oppose background checks among family friend or personal sale with 2 forms of id.
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Oh yeah L4L--that would have worked with the Newtown mother who bought the gun if she decided to sell it to her son--result would have been the same except he would have owned the gun leagally.
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