Quoted from joebxr

SISSY, admit it, YOU INTENTIONALLY LEFT OFF THE LAST SENTENCE, that's quite obvious....can't do it can you!!!  

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

I dispute your contention that contracting and dying from measles is "naturally rare."

In 1529, a measles outbreak in Cuba killed two-thirds of the natives.  Two years later, measles was responsible for the deaths of half the population of Honduras, and had ravaged Mexico, Central America, and the Inca civilization.Measles killed 20 percent of Hawaii's population in the 1850s.  In 1980, before the WHO's major initiative for global vaccination against measles 2.6 MILLION people died from the measles per year.  In 2013, global deaths caused by the measles 145,000.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

I dispute your contention that contracting and dying from measles is "naturally rare."

In 1529, a measles outbreak in Cuba killed two-thirds of the natives.  Two years later, measles was responsible for the deaths of half the population of Honduras, and had ravaged Mexico, Central America, and the Inca civilization.Measles killed 20 percent of Hawaii's population in the 1850s.  In 1980, before the WHO's major initiative for global vaccination against measles 2.6 MILLION people died from the measles per year.  In 2013, global deaths caused by the measles 145,000.

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Until the coming of the Europeans, the New World was free of smallpox, typhus, cholera, and measles--the focus of this article. When Cortez came to invade Mexico, he had with him a silent ally more potent than his small Spanish army. That insidious ally was infectious disease, to which Aztecs and other Native Americans had no immunity.

When he finally entered Tenochtitlan (Mexico City today) in 1520, the year after he first arrived in the New World, he found half of the inhabitants infected with smallpox. In just the first epidemic, nearly 50% had died. Eleven years later, a second epidemic devastated Mexico, and this too was introduced from Spanish ships. By 1595, over 18 million people had died of smallpox, mumps, measles and other European diseases.

Quoted from joebxr

Specifically when it comes to the MMR vaccine, it wasn't until 1990 that a 2nd dose was recommended for maximum
effectiveness.  So anyone receiving vaccine prior to 1990 "may" be under vaccinated and susceptible to contracting
the diseases.

Vaccine is not given until children are 12-15mths old, so until 1st shot is given and until shot takes effect within
their systems, those children prior to being given the shot are susceptible to contracting the disease.

Because of certain medical conditions that may exist, some people simply cannot get the MMR vaccine, which makes them susceptible
to contracting the diseases.

So there are 3 examples of how people are susceptible to contracting diseases from those that don't get vaccinated and
either develop or are carriers of the diseases.  So don't try to say it's not a victimless issue when people choose not to
get children and even adults vaccinated, because it is not just them they put at risk.

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Why Are Cancer Drugs So Expensive?
The high cost of cancer drugs is related to numerous factors. It is very expensive to move findings from bench to bedside and to perform all the regulatory studies (including phase 1, 2, and 3 clinical trials) to gain approval. Second, because most cancers are incurable, patients are treated with each approved agent (sequentially or in combination), creating a virtual monopoly because the use of one drug does not automatically mean that the others are no longer needed. Third, even when the monopoly is broken with the arrival of “new and improved” versions of an approved drug, the older (and by now generic) drug tends to be viewed as substandard treatment, thereby perpetuating the situation. Fourth, the very nature of cancer, and the seriousness of the diagnosis, plays a role in that patients and physicians are often willing to pay the high price of treatment even for marginal improvements in outcome. Finally, our systems provide an incentive to administer more chemotherapy, and there are legal barriers that prevent agencies such as the FDA from taking economic and cost-effectiveness considerations into account when approving new dru

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The Value of Investing in Vaccines

The International Vaccine Access Center at Johns Hopkins, with support from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, has undertaken research into the economic benefits of immunization. These analyses have shown that immunization can have a powerful impact on economies from the global level down to the family level, and gives many more children the opportunity to reach their fifth birthday safe and sound.(WE NEED STRONG WORKERS/WARRIORS, the human commodity)

Vaccines Work: Key Facts and Figures
Beyond preventing more than 100 million cases of illness and averting 3.7 million deaths in young children over the next ten years(do they have a crystal ball?), immunizing children with three crucial vaccines against pneumonia, diarrhea and meningitis
would hold major economic benefits for both families and governments.
Rolling out childhood immunizations against Hib, pneumococcal and rotavirus diseases in the world’s 73 poorest countries over the next decade would result in an estimated $63 billion in treatment and productivity savings.(YOU MULE)
Averting short-term costs of disease treatment saves $1.4 billion and avoiding the lost wages of caretakers saves $313 million, while averting the long term economic costs of lost productivity due to disability and death may add savings of $61 billion to these economies in the long term.
The ability to avert (CRYSTAL BALL AGAIN?)3.7 million deaths by using pneumococcal, Hib and rotavirus vaccines has an estimated value of $115 billion for those in at-risk countries.

Quoted from CICERO

The WHO did nothing to reduce deaths,

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

Wrong - In the 25 years from when the WHO began its global vaccination initiative, deaths from the measles dropped from over 2 million to 145,000.  That certainly is DOING something.

Quoted from CICERO

That's fine...you found the hidden sentence!  You are a super sleuth!  Damn!  I shouldn't have provided the link, you would have never foiled my diabolical plan!

You still haven't stated whether you support mandatory vaccines that may cause brain damage.  Cmon joseppi, take a stand on the issue.  Do you think parents should be required to inject a virus into their baby knowing it could harm the baby?  

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Claim:   In the last ten years no one has died of measles in the U.S., but more than 100 people have died due to the MMR vaccine.

Origins:   During a then-current measles outbreak, on 4 February 2015 an alternative health site published an article claiming no one in the United States died of the measles between 2004 and 2015.
  
Furthermore, the article stated, more than 100 people (mostly young children) had died after receiving the MMR (measles, mumps, rubella) vaccine.

The claim circulated widely during a time of increased debate over parental decisions about vaccinations, particularly among those who are opposed to the practice. In some iterations the claim was amended to specify "child deaths," but the article itself stated there were zero deaths (among all age groups) from measles in the United States in the timeframe cited. That claim was provably false, as two people in the U.S. died from the measles in 2009, and another two deaths from measles were recorded in 2010. As such, in two of the ten to eleven years cited in the claim, at least four people have died of measles. And according to the World Health Organization, 145,000 people around the world died of measles in 2013 alone.

What the article failed to address was the reason why measles killed so few Americans in the period cited. The glaring omission had a very specific root cause, namely measles elimination:
In 2000, the United States declared that measles was eliminated from this country. The United States was able to eliminate measles because it has a highly effective measles vaccine, a strong vaccination program that achieves high vaccine coverage in children and a strong public health system for detecting and responding to measles cases and outbreaks.

Measles elimination is defined as the absence of continuous disease transmission for 12 months or more in a specific geographic area. Measles is no longer endemic (constantly present) in the United States.
It stands to (very simple) reason a timespan beginning in 2004 (four years after measles elimination) and ending just before the late 2014 outbreak would see few (albeit not zero) deaths from measles, because the viral infection had been largely eliminated from the United States during the period specifically selected to illustrate the purported innocuous nature of measles.

The second portion of the claim entailed deaths attributed directly to the MMR vaccine in the same period. Even if a minute number of fatalities were proved to have resulted from the MMR vaccine, it would still be impossible to accurately contrast that figure with deaths due to a disease no longer spreading in the United States during the period selected. That speculation itself, however, is a big "if." According to the article, their figures for MMR deaths were culled from the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), but VAERS does not exist to track specific and proved adverse reactions to vaccines. The purpose of the system is clearly denoted on the VAERS site (in a disclaimer not reproduced by the article spreading the claim):
When evaluating data from VAERS, it is important to note that for any reported event, no cause-and-effect relationship has been established. Reports of all possible associations between vaccines and adverse events (possible side effects) are filed in VAERS. Therefore, VAERS collects data on any adverse event following vaccination, be it coincidental or truly caused by a vaccine. The report of an adverse event to VAERS is not documentation that a vaccine caused the event.
Submission to VAERS alone is not evidence of vaccine-related injury or illness. The overwhelming majority of young children residing in the United States receive the MMR vaccine early in their lives, and a small number of those children have become ill (some fatally) due to reasons found to be unrelated to the vaccine. There is nothing to preclude individuals from submitting VAERS reports of sickness or death that are wholly unrelated to vaccines, and the system exists not to track substantiated incidents of vaccine injury but to identify potential trends in vaccine administration.

Few people died of measles in the U.S. between 2004 and 2015 because measles was classified as eliminated in 2000. Relatively few people in the U.S. contracted the viral infection after that, so it stands to reason far fewer would go on to die of it. And while more than 100 reports of suspected adverse reaction or death may have been reported to VAERS in the years cited, that number references unconfirmed public reports, not verified vaccine-related fatalities. Finally, death is not the only reason a vaccine for measles was developed. Serious complications and permanent injury can result from contracting measles.

Last updated:   4 February 2015  
Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/mmrdeaths.asp#TRmhyLYTBkbojaoL.99

Quoted from joebxr

Sentence not hidden...YOU INTENTIONALLY DELETED IT!!!
The you answer questions by asking questions, that people MUST
answer according to you....you are the one exempt from answering
questions without the games!
Just the way SISSY GAMES are played, as usual!!!

Quoted from CICERO

What is the point of the snopes article?  The CDC website never lists death as a side effect.  It lists brain damage, deafness and permanent seizures.  Maybe you think these are acceptable side effects.

Quoted from joebxr

My point made earlier, but you don't buy it unless you can make an issue out of it.
SNOPES article...well follow along Sissy...read some of the earlier posts and maybe your feeble mind might
see the correlation.  YUP, SISSY GAMES...you are the best!!!

Quoted from CICERO

Your point is again....That the vaccine is safe because the side effects(brain damage, permanent seizures, deafness, bleeding disorders) are rare and only effect a small number of children and their family's?