And as me and bumble posted we already give 2-3 months a year to the government, is that not enough? You take that 2-3 months and place that over 50+ years and you do the math. But I'm guessing this is not the "giving" you are talking about, you want more of our blood and sweat and possibly our lives like those who were kidnapped, held hostage, made to go against their religious beliefs, and sent to die in Nam, 17,725 to be exact. If that is your take on "giving" you can have it, I won't have any part in it. How is it any different from say ISIS who is kidnapping, holding hostage, making others change their religion, and then cutting their throats afterwards, it is no different.
^5....well said!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
this forum has a looong history of berating servicemen
and it also has a history of berating the 'peace makers/anti-war' folks.
if ya wanna take part in the 'government issue killing machine'..........have at it....it's your CHOICE! if ya wanna be a peace maker/anti-war person....have at it....it's your CHOICE!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
and it also has a history of berating the 'peace makers/anti-war' folks.
Are you sure it's the "cause" and not the "person"? Seems to me no one is against not wanting war...but it also seems to me the berating is to the people on how they present their views and that they drag certain "people" into the fray on purpose, rather than dealing with the "cause" only! IMHO Just sayin'
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
Are you sure it's the "cause" and not the "person"? Seems to me no one is against not wanting war...but it also seems to me the berating is to the people on how they present their views and that they drag certain "people" into the fray on purpose, rather than dealing with the "cause" only! IMHO Just sayin'
Understand. But I find...imho....that no one on a message board should take anything 'personal'. (well except mc1 who makes posts to only ONE...and clearly/sadly makes it PERSONAL.)
Example....if I was gay and there were anti-gay folks berating aka voicing their opinion re, gays...should I take it personal? no If I had an abortion...and there were anti-abortion folks berating aka voicing their opinion re, abortion...should I take it personal? no If I were rich and there were folks berating aka voicing their opinion re, rich folks....should I take it personal? no If I were a welfare bum and there were folks berating aka voicing their opinion re, welfare bums...should I take it personal? no My point is.......WE make it personal!!!! We take/make and anonymous message board and make it personal and we shouldn't. There are some topics/posts here that go against the core of my being. But I don't take/make it personal. IMHO...just sayin'
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Understand. But I find...imho....that no one on a message board should take anything 'personal'. (well except mc1 who makes posts to only ONE...and clearly/sadly makes it PERSONAL.)
Example....if I was gay and there were anti-gay folks berating aka voicing their opinion re, gays...should I take it personal? no If I had an abortion...and there were anti-abortion folks berating aka voicing their opinion re, abortion...should I take it personal? no If I were rich and there were folks berating aka voicing their opinion re, rich folks....should I take it personal? no If I were a welfare bum and there were folks berating aka voicing their opinion re, welfare bums...should I take it personal? no My point is.......WE make it personal!!!! We take/make and anonymous message board and make it personal and we shouldn't. There are some topics/posts here that go against the core of my being. But I don't take/make it personal. IMHO...just sayin'
Understand...but as you say, "WE make it personal!!!!" and "... make it personal and we shouldn't. " There's the whole basis right there...you have a few that MAKE IT PERSONAL intentionally...so why shouldn't it turn into anger and defensive comments and name calling in return. Me personally, will stand along side you "anti-war", as I've said. But when you make direct accusations against me that are horrible and unfounded lies, then YAH, now it's personal and that's how I will take it. JUST SAYIN'
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
And as me and bumble posted we already give 2-3 months a year to the government, is that not enough? You take that 2-3 months and place that over 50+ years and you do the math. .
Henry and Cissy want to T A K E, but they never want to G I V E! They both whine like a 2 year old when they have to 'pay for services' yet they use those services daily. Again... the ME MENTALITY! WAAAAAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAAAA "I didn't ask for those roads to be built" or " I never asked for that sewer system" even though I use it daily. Or, "how come I have to pay for the FDA to safeguard MY food?" ME ME ME ME ME ME! (They really want the FREEDOM to be poisoned) ME ME ME ME ME ME ME! They seem to have no problem with the rest of us paying their share. ME ME ME ME ME!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Yup your typical response from box, nothing of importance regarding the topic and a cartoon he found on google images
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Yup your typical response from box, nothing of importance regarding the topic and a cartoon he found on google images
So was my post in error? Do you complain about taxes, all taxes, even those taxes that are spent directly on services that you use?
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
So was my post in error? Do you complain about taxes, all taxes, even those taxes that are spent directly on services that you use?
Nope and I stated my opinion many times before, I have zero problem paying for any services I use, although if I don't use them I should not be forced to pay for them, make services optional it wouldn't be hard, in fact many areas are privatized for things like fire departments, if you want their service you pay, don't pay no service.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
And as me and bumble posted we already give 2-3 months a year to the government, is that not enough? You take that 2-3 months and place that over 50+ years and you do the math. But I'm guessing this is not the "giving" you are talking about, you want more of our blood and sweat and possibly our lives like those who were kidnapped, held hostage, made to go against their religious beliefs, and sent to die in Nam, 17,725 to be exact. If that is your take on "giving" you can have it, I won't have any part in it. How is it any different from say ISIS who is kidnapping, holding hostage, making others change their religion, and then cutting their throats afterwards, it is no different.
your really saying some crazy sh!t here- really ? WE ( our government, military is no differnt than ISIS ? boy that is low bro.
And there is something wrong with your " i already gave at the office " arithmetic . Life doesnt really work that way if it did- you would be able to loose weight and you should have money in the bank.
Im guessing that you cant and you dont. if you did you should have a hundred K in the bank by now and are a lean mean dancing machine
your really saying some crazy sh!t here- really ? WE ( our government, military is no differnt than ISIS ? boy that is low bro.
Please tell me the difference.
ISIS kidnaps, holds hostage, make people convert their religion, and then kills them overseas
US Draft, Kidnaps, holds hostage, makes people go against their religious beliefs, and then kills them overseas
Are you denying this actually took place or do you want me to sugar coat our version to make it sound as if it was for the greater good.....which I'm guessing ISIS believes the same
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Nope and I stated my opinion many times before, I have zero problem paying for any services I use, although if I don't use them I should not be forced to pay for them...
So as I posted... as long as it benefits ME ME ME I'll pay for it. But if it benefits anyone else... screw em! Henry should be taxed by the mile. Every road he drives on that is out of his taxing district, he should be assessed a fee, plus legal and administrative expenses, to reimburse those taxpayers he is presently screwing.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
your really saying some crazy sh!t here- really ? WE ( our government, military is no differnt than ISIS ? boy that is low bro.
The US government kidnapped and jailed thousands of people that refused conscription and go and fight in Vietnam. Vietnam, a nation and a people that was in the midst of a civil war, and was no threat to the United States or it's citizens. Can you tell me the difference?
So as I posted... as long as it benefits ME ME ME I'll pay for it. But if it benefits anyone else... screw em! Henry should be taxed by the mile. Every road he drives on that is out of his taxing district, he should be assessed a fee, plus legal and administrative expenses, to reimburse those taxpayers he is presently screwing.
I always love this argument, from a guy that has his property taxes reduced because of military status. Ahhhh...screw'em! You deserve the discount. That's not selfish though...no-no-no...It's deserved-you "earned" it. LOL!!! Please, tell me you deserve it because you saved us from the Vietnamese invasion.
Logged
