2. My concern is to promote affordable health care for all citizens. I consider health care coverage a RIGHT, just like education and justice... something to work towards, not something to deny.
There are no laws that deny anybody health care or education. You are not talking about a RIGHT, you are talking about entitlements.
There are no laws that deny anybody health care or education. You are not talking about a RIGHT, you are talking about entitlements.
CORRECT, no laws prevent...but there are laws guaranteeing the right. The problem with your twist is that a RIGHT is something afforded to ALL, and an ENTITLEMENT is government guarantee to specific group...not available to all! I believe the ACA is, according to accepted definition, a RIGHT and not an ENTITLEMENT!
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
CORRECT, no laws prevent...but there are laws guaranteeing the right. The problem with your twist is that a RIGHT is something afforded to ALL, and an ENTITLEMENT is government guarantee to specific group...not available to all! I believe the ACA is, according to accepted definition, a RIGHT and not an ENTITLEMENT!
No, it's an entitlement. There is nothing in this world afforded to all. Not unless you take from some to give to others. Medical care is a service. Just like any other service. The ACA penalizes people that have "Cadallac" medical insurance to pay for other people's insurance. So they don't have a right to their choice of medical insurance.
No, it's an entitlement. There is nothing in this world afforded to all. Not unless you take from some to give to others. Medical care is a service. Just like any other service. The ACA penalizes people that have "Cadallac" medical insurance to pay for other people's insurance. So they don't have a right to their choice of medical insurance.
No douche nozzle... "...ENTITLEMENT is government guarantee to specific group...not available to all!"
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
So dumbass....SUBSIDY??? Oh, talking about something different AGAIN!!!!! Not sure I understand how SUBSIDY and ACA are same thing???
Something different? THE SUBSIDY IS WHAT MAKES THE MEDICAL INSURANCE "AFFORDABLE" FOR THOSE THAT CAN'T AFFORD IT. The subsidy IS the ACA. And the subsidy is means tested. Not everybody qualifies for the subsidy. Only a SPECIFIC GROUP qualify for the subsidy. Specific groups are ENTITLED to the subsidy while others are not.
Something different? THE SUBSIDY IS WHAT MAKES THE MEDICAL INSURANCE "AFFORDABLE" FOR THOSE THAT CAN'T AFFORD IT. The subsidy IS the ACA. And the subsidy is means tested. Not everybody qualifies for the subsidy. Only a SPECIFIC GROUP qualify for the subsidy. Specific groups are ENTITLED to the subsidy while others are not.
who are these entitled groups?
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There are three types of cost assistance: Premium Tax Credits to lower your premiums, Cost Sharing Reduction subsidies for lower out-of-pocket costs, and Medicaid and CHIP. Let’s take a quick look at some cost assistance subsidy facts before we get to the details.
• Cost assistance subsidies are only available through your state’s health insurance marketplace and only available during open enrollment, unless you qualify for a special enrollment period (the exception being Medicaid and CHIP which can be obtained at any time of year.)
• Although subsidies are only offered on marketplace plans, most Health Insurance Brokers outside the marketplace can help you enroll in a marketplace plan.
• Subsidies are based on income. In most states, anyone making less than 400% of the Federal Poverty Level (FPL) can get some type of subsidy on Marketplace plans.
• The Federal Poverty Level adjusts for inflation each year allowing more and more Americans to qualify for more cost assistance.
• Those making under 400% of the FPL have access to tax credits, those making under 250% FPL are eligible for cost sharing reduction subsidies on silver plans, and those making under 138% (in states that expanded Medicaid) are eligible for Medicaid.
• The type of income used to determine subsidies is household Modified Adjusted Gross Income, or MAGI, that is income after most deductions.
• If you qualify for cost assistance, a marketplace plan can’t cost you more than 9.5% of your income after tax credits are applied. The less you make, the lower the cap!
• The amount of cost assistance you get is based on the second-lowest-cost Silver plan in your state’s Marketplace.
• In states that didn’t expand Medicaid, many adults making under 100% FPL will fall in the Medicaid gap, meaning they won’t qualify for Medicaid or subsidies.
• Cost sharing reduction subsidies are only Available On Silver Plans.
• Tax credits can be applied in advance (partially or in full) to lower your premiums or they can be adjusted on your federal income taxes.
• If your income changes, report it so the marketplace can adjust your subsidies. You may qualify for bigger subsidies if your income decreases and you will save yourself from having to repay advanced tax credits if your income increases.
• In order to adjust tax credits at the end of the year, you’ll need to file a Premium Tax Credit Form 8962 along with your 1040 Income Tax Returns. Your assistance amounts can change with even a slight change in income. This means many will qualify for greater refunds due to Tax Credits, while some will repay a portion of their Advanced Tax Credit Payments.
• Aside from taking cost assistance on the front end, you can also use an HSA (Health Savings Account) or other medical savings accounts to lower MAGI and spend tax free dollars on care.
• If you spend more than 10% of your Adjusted Gross Income on medical, dental, and/or vision, consider using a Schedule A to take medical deductions.
• If you don’t qualify for subsidies, you may want to see your options outside of the marketplace too; in some states, some plans aren’t offered on the marketplace.
• You may qualify for both cost assistance and an exemption from the tax if the cheapest marketplace plan after subsidies costs more than 8% of your income.
• Cost assistance is available for small businesses with less than 25 full-time equivalent employees too. Learn more about ObamaCare and Small Business.
Well, I guess I can see why you think the way you do on this, but I'm not in agreement, as I view it as a methodology to allow ACA for all, including those that are at the lower end of the financial spectrum.
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
Well, I guess I can see why you think the way you do on this, but I'm not in agreement, as I view it as a methodology to allow ACA for all, including those that are at the lower end of the financial spectrum.
It's not about what I think...The discussion was the FACTUAL difference between an "right' and an entitlement. I think the way I do because the ACA is a means tested entitlement. If you believe ACA and medical insurance is a "right", then home heating(HEAP) is a right, food(EBT CARD) is a right, cell phones are a right, or any other subsidy program that is means tested is a "right".
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1st Amendment Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances
The first amendment doesn't mean that the government subsidizes the transportation costs for a person that can't afford the travel expenses to peaceably assemble at a rally in Washington DC. This would be an entitlement.
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2nd Amendment A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
The second amendment doesn't mean that the government subsidizes the purchase of a shotgun because a person cannot afford the full price of a shotgun. This would be an entitlement.
Well, I guess I can see why you think the way you do on this, but I'm not in agreement, as I view it as a methodology to allow ACA for all, including those that are at the lower end of the financial spectrum.
what if you happen to be 'just above' them.....does that mean you can't get your flat screen tv?
who gives the definition of affordable?
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
It's not about what I think...The discussion was the FACTUAL difference between an "right' and an entitlement. I think the way I do because the ACA is a means tested entitlement. If you believe ACA and medical insurance is a "right", then home heating(HEAP) is a right, food(EBT CARD) is a right, cell phones are a right, or any other subsidy program that is means tested is a "right".
The first amendment doesn't mean that the government subsidizes the transportation costs for a person that can't afford the travel expenses to peaceably assemble at a rally in Washington DC. This would be an entitlement.
The second amendment doesn't mean that the government subsidizes the purchase of a shotgun because a person cannot afford the full price of a shotgun. This would be an entitlement.
Twisted Bull$hit...so typical. WIIFM's always think like this!
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
Twisted Bull$hit...so typical. WIIFM's always think like this!
I can understand how you see the difference between "rights" and entitlements as twisted bull$hit. Though factual by definition - it's still twisted in your warped mind.
Joey, all you have to say is that you believe people are entitled to medical insurance. Just don't call the ACA affording people a "right", it's affording people an entitlement.
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