Don't worry box I won't judge you for looking like an a$$, after all it was those you trust so much who lied to you, that's a hard thing to accept, denial will be your first response like we see now, then anger, then acceptance. Think of it as a learning experience
Henry... we all make mistakes... and backing Bigot Bundy as many conservatives did, was a terrible mistake. Bundy's hurt your cause. The world looks at ScumBag Bundy and sees the rest of your anti govt, TeaBagger militia in the same light. Bundy is a bigoted crazy old fool. He's a thief and a liar... and you quoting Bigot Bundy is about as effective as if you were quoting Hitler to prove your view is correct.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Since box is trying to bury this I think I will bump it on every new page for as long as thread continues
I will put an end to boxes claims, this is what box saw and is making a fuss over, a edited version made to attack his character
Now this is what box didn't see or what the media didn't show, in the unedited video it actually not only crushes the racism argument, it actually shows Bundy praising minorities and hoping for a better life for them, oh how small box must feel, but I'm sure he will post a couple cartoons because he won't admit his media lied
Here you go folks, watch what the media didn't want you to see
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Racist Nevada Rancher Cliven Bundy Reveals the Depths of Conservative White Supremacism Denial
Henry, You really should read this article from The New Republic. It describes you!
If the conservatives at Fox News and on the right flank of the Republican party had suspected that rallying to Cliven Bundy's defense would backfire, they probably wouldn't have done it. But it never even occurred to them.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
If the conservatives at Fox News and on the right flank of the Republican party had suspected that rallying to Cliven Bundy's defense would backfire, they probably wouldn't have done it. But it never even occurred to them.
I knew about this story over a week before the media including FOX even mentioned it, I was actually surprised the media ran the story because they were so far behind on it. What makes you think I care about FOX, I probably watched 3 hours total of FOX news over 2 years. It doesn't surprise me the media and politicians are backing away from him even after they were sold on a edited video, it is what they do, I would have told you that long ago, in fact I think I did many of times.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
This guys a racist douche, there is injustice happening everyday by our government, and plenty of good causes and individuals to back, but this guy is far from it.
This guys a racist douche, there is injustice happening everyday by our government, and plenty of good causes and individuals to back, but this guy is far from it.
Who backs the guy? I think people are backing the situation, not the person. Who cares if he's racist? That has zero to do with federal agents using paramilitary forces to collect on a government debt and take property. This racist narrative is a distraction.
Box, he isn't part of any cause. He is just an example of federal use of violence against its own citizens. Racist, bigot, homophobe, islamaphobe, or whatever label you want to put on him, does nothing to change the fact that the federal government responded with paramilitary forces and killed his cattle over a grazing debt.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
A "Mass Grave"... is that how you see it? Then the best part... GENOCIDE??? Do you mean on a scale with Rwandan Genocide? Or the GENOCIDE of the Jews under Hitler??? That kind of GENOCIDE???
genocide: the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group. Exactly what "national, racial, political or cultural" group do those cows belong to???
I watched a few minutes of the video... a bunch of politically active people discussing their political views... or did I miss anything???
IMO, once the Feds confiscate Bundy's property, it belongs to them, to help compensate for the debt that Bundy refuses to pay, even though under 3 court orders to do so.
I remember the Feds confiscating the "property" (groceries) of a small grocer who refused to pay his taxes. They chained his store door shut then removed the contents and sold them to help pay for back taxes fines and interest. (Much Like Bundy!
IMO, the people in the video have absolutely no credibility. ZERO! Their view is about as OBJECTIVE as yours is. And that's why you find it valid... because it agrees with your view.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
I wonder how the Bundy Mellon Farm is coping with all this added attention. You do realize that Bigot Bundy's business IS MELLONS, NOT BEEF! The Bundy farm is too small and has poor grazing to raise many cows, hence, Bundy's signing a contract for grazing rights off his property. A shame Bundy won't live up to his side of the contract.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
IMO, once the Feds confiscate Bundy's property, it belongs to them, to help compensate for the debt that Bundy refuses to pay, even though under 3 court orders to do so.
I remember the Feds confiscating the "property" (groceries) of a small grocer who refused to pay his taxes. They chained his store door shut then removed the contents and sold them to help pay for back taxes fines and interest. (Much Like Bundy!
How does stealing cattle and killing them compensate the government? Who pays for shot up cattle buried in a hole? There must be a big market for that. And they paid contractors hundreds of thousands to carry out the slaughter. Yup, that sounds like a federal government fiscal solution.
How does stealing cattle and killing them compensate the government? Who pays for shot up cattle buried in a hole? There must be a big market for that. And they paid contractors hundreds of thousands to carry out the slaughter. Yup, that sounds like a federal government fiscal solution.
Who pays for the cops to carry out a drug raid? The TaxPayer. Who pays for the police to investigate a robbery? The TaxPayer. Who pays for rounding up and evicting cattle on public land. Again, The TaxPayer.
Who pays their debts??? Not ScumBag Bundy! Who is he stealing from? The TaxPayer.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Who pays for the cops to carry out a drug raid? The TaxPayer. Who pays for the police to investigate a robbery? The TaxPayer. Who pays for rounding up and evicting cattle on public land. Again, The TaxPayer.
Who pays their debts??? Not ScumBag Bundy! Who is he stealing from? The TaxPayer.
Paramilitary groups using AR 15's to collect debts for grazing fee's?
Box, he's not stealing, they would be trying to arrest him and the FBI would be involved. These are unpaid grazing fees.
I know you get all chubbed up when the federal government squashes a citizen that dare defy the federal government, but you don't have to overstate the violation. It's collecting a debt on some arbitrary federal government fee.
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