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After all the opportunities to name a victim, all he has left are childish personal attacks.  Thanks for the exercise.lol


You enjoy attacking others, so why the WAH WAH?
Read it again...not attack...pointing out FACT!!!!
Look up the definition of "one dimensional"....that's you...racist, one dimensional, insignificant nobody!!! FACT!!!!

PS - If I do resort to "childish" it's because I must lower to your level so you might have a chance to comprehend...but it's still not working!!!!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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You enjoy attacking others, so why the WAH WAH?
Read it again...not attack...pointing out FACT!!!!
Look up the definition of "one dimensional"....that's you...racist, one dimensional, insignificant nobody!!! FACT!!!!

PS - If I do resort to "childish" it's because I must lower to your level so you might have a chance to comprehend...but it's still not working!!!!


Still no victim identified...FACT


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Still no victim identified...FACT


Cissy WAH WAH playing Cissy dumbass games....FACT!!!
I know it pi$$es you off that people don't bow and play your game,
but guess what...GET OVER IT!!!!!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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Cissy WAH WAH playing Cissy dumbass games....FACT!!!
I know it pi$$es you off that people don't bow and play your game,
but guess what...GET OVER IT!!!!!


Yet another post, still no victim identified...no game...just a simple question...and as Tommy said.  The sparks are shooting out of your ears.  


You asked a question and I took a clear position, that drug laws are victimless crimes.  You challenged my position, so I backed up my position.   I asked you who the victim was in a voluntary exchange of goods for personal consumption - you went berserk and resorted to name calling.

Throw something out there Joey...defend your position...your cissy wah wah response is getting pretty silly.


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For Cicero and his "victimless crimes":

‘Victimless’ crime with so many victims



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The claim that low-level drug use is a victimless crime would be hotly disputed by more
than 120,000 Mexicans. Well, they would dispute it if they hadn’t lost their lives in the past
five years in an all-out war between drug cartels. The death count for that period is triple that
of the war in Afghanistan.


Herald Sun
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/ne.....i0ffsx-1226904387864


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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For Cicero and his "victimless crimes":

Prostitution: A Victimless Crime?
The Oldest Profession Is Hardly Without Victims


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Melissa Farley, PhD of Prostitution Research & Education, argues that prostitution
is hardly a victimless crime. In her "Prostitution: Fact sheet on Human Rights Violations"
Farley says that prostitution is sexual harassment, rape, battering, verbal abuse, domestic
violence, a racist practice, a violation of human rights, childhood sexual abuse, a
consequence of male domination of women and a means of maintaining male domination
of women.
"All prostitution causes harm to women," Farley writes. "Whether it is being sold by
one's family to a brothel, or whether it is being sexually abused in one's family, running
away from home, and then being pimped by one's boyfriend, or whether one is in
college and needs to pay for next semester's tuition and one works at a strip club
behind glass where men never actually touch you – all these forms of prostitution
hurt the women in it."

Prostitutes Are Biggest Victims

To believe prostitution has no victims, one must ignore these statistics published
in Farley's Fact Sheet:
78 percent of 55 women who sought help from the Council for Prostitution
Alternatives in 1991 reported being raped an average of 16 times a year by pimps,
and were raped 33 times a year by johns.
62 percent reported having been raped in prostitution.
73 percent reported having experienced physical assault in prostitution.
72 percent were currently or formerly homeless.
92 percent stated that they wanted to escape prostitution immediately.
83 percent of prostitutes are victims of assault with a weapon.
75 percent of women in escort prostitution had attempted suicide.
67 percent meet diagnostic criteria for posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD).


Prostitution: A Victimless Crime?
http://crime.about.com/od/prostitution/a/prostitution.htm


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working in a nursing home any victims are those that perceive THEMSELVES to be victims....

no one gave them that title....

those elderly people who fight me and swear at me may not sound nice but they are NOT being victims of old age or the stupid
title that society places on them....

there are no victims in CHOICE crimes....that's why HATE crimes are arbitrary and STUPID.....

if I, not wanting to be a victim MYSELF, kills the drug dealer that I HATE...what's the crime???????


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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For Cicero and his "victimless crimes":

‘Victimless’ crime with so many victims





Herald Sun
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/ne.....i0ffsx-1226904387864


Yes, drug prohibition in the US makes the drug trade from Mexico into America a very lucrative business venture.  And with the governments "War on Drugs" waged against black market drugs, you create a self fulfilling prophesy of violence.  You don't see the employees of Merck going around and killing employees working for Pfizer.  I wonder why?


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For Cicero and his "victimless crimes":

Prostitution: A Victimless Crime?
The Oldest Profession Is Hardly Without Victims




Prostitution: A Victimless Crime?
http://crime.about.com/od/prostitution/a/prostitution.htm


Forced prostitution has a victim.  Voluntary prostitution's only victim is caused by the individuals own decision.  How can you be a victim of your own decision to do what you want with your body?  I think the "Christian Conservatives" used the same argument to outlaw sodomy.  

Hmmmm...Box wants to legislate morality. Interesting change in philosophy.


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Hmmmm...Box wants to legislate morality. Interesting change in philosophy.


What legislation did I propose???
Another Cicero fail!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Forced prostitution has a victim.  Voluntary prostitution's only victim is caused by the individuals own decision.  How can you be a victim of your own decision to do what you want with your body?  I think the "Christian Conservatives" used the same argument to outlaw sodomy.  



Read the link, especially the part that says:
"All prostitution causes harm to women,"
Prostitution is not a victimless crime, but it's easy to dismiss as one.  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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What legislation did I propose???
Another Cicero fail!


Aren't you posting evidence justifying drug and prostitution legislation?


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Aren't you posting evidence justifying drug and prostitution legislation?


NOPE!  Cissy sees every post as it fits his agenda... if it doesn't fit... he doesn't get it!  


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NOPE!  Cissy sees every post as it fits his agenda... if it doesn't fit... he doesn't get it!  


Ok, good!  Then you are on my side of the argument.  So let me get this straight, you doesn't support drug or prostitution laws because it criminalizes moral choices that only harm the person making the choice.  EXCELENT!


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Ok, good!  Then you are on my side of the argument.  So let me get this straight, you doesn't support drug or prostitution laws because it criminalizes moral choices that only harm the person making the choice.  EXCELENT!


So tedious...
Again.
NOPE!  Cissy sees every post as it fits his agenda... if it doesn't fit... he doesn't get it!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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