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The biggest problem with gun laws are the idiots who pass them. The government wants to background check every gun owner then turns around and passes a law that prevents doctors, hospitals and shrinks from divulging a persons mental state, HIPPA laws forbids divulging a persons medical records. This is in Title IV which defines rules for protection of patient information. All healthcare providers, health organizations, and government health plans that use, store, maintain, or transmit patient health care information are required to comply with the privacy regulations of the HIPAA law. Your government is not too smart Box.


THAT is where it gets REAL murky......you see, a diagnosis LIVES AND BECOMES A PART OF A PERSON, even if it is a
wrong diagnosis....most 'head shrinking' is subjective.....if a person gets a diagnosis of depression is that a 'NO' marker?
all the diagnosis then become political fodder and chains......and even if they are wrong diagnosis they never get expunged
from your record.....it always becomes your history, right or wrong.

I know this because I see this and as national healthcare comes along so do medical chains.....

this is BEYOND guns and proper control.....it's just another prong of the fork, kinda like religion in society is one....

medicine IS NOT always science.....FACT.....
healthcare IS NOT always medicine.....FACT.....

SHOW ME THE $$ TRAIL AND YOUR KEEPERS


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Ummm box I gave a link which described gun injuries in shooting sports compared to almost every known activity and sport, gun sports like it or not is one of the safest activities, right below billiards in injuries I know box go back in bed and cry some more, you lost twice today in this thread


By your bogus standard, juggling live cobras is safer than driving a car...
If only a few dozen people are killed by jugling cobras a year... it is safe
(even though the death rate is almost 100%!!!

How many people per year per hour spent at the sport die at billiards?
How many people per year per hour spent die at gun ranges?

Your post said gun ranges are one of the safest places to be... yet more
shooters are shot per year at gun ranges than people shot while playing
billiards, or at a drive through car wish or at the dentist.  
You just made up a FACT and posted it... and we all know it!  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Does HIPAA permit a doctor to contact a patient’s family or law enforcement if the doctor believes that the patient might hurt herself or someone else?

Yes. The Privacy Rule permits a health care provider to disclose necessary information about a patient to law enforcement, family members of the patient, or other persons, when the provider believes the patient presents a serious and imminent threat to self or others.  The scope of this permission is described in a letter to the nation’s health care providers issued on January 15, 2013, and below.

Specifically, when a health care provider believes in good faith that such a warning is necessary to prevent or lessen a serious and imminent threat to the health or safety of the patient or others, the Privacy Rule allows the provider, consistent with applicable law and standards of ethical conduct, to alert those persons whom the provider believes are reasonably able to prevent or lessen the threat. These provisions may be found in the Privacy Rule at 45 CFR § 164.512(j).

Under these provisions, a health care provider may disclose patient information, including information from mental health records, if necessary, to law enforcement, family members of the patient, or any other persons who may reasonably be able to prevent or lessen the risk of harm. For example, if a mental health professional has a patient who has made a credible threat to inflict serious and imminent bodily harm on one or more persons, HIPAA permits the mental health professional to alert the police, a parent or other family member, school administrators or campus police, and others who may be able to intervene to avert harm from the threat.

In addition to professional ethical standards, most States have laws and/or court decisions which address, and in many instances require, disclosure of patient information to prevent or lessen the risk of harm. Providers should consult the laws applicable to their profession in the States where they practice, as well as 42 USC 290dd-2 and 42 CFR Part 2 under Federal law (governing the disclosure of alcohol and drug abuse treatment records) to understand their duties and authority in situations where they have information indicating a threat to public safety. Note that, where a provider is not subject to such State laws or other ethical standards, the HIPAA permission still would allow disclosures for these purposes to the extent the other conditions of the permission are met.


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Here are 10 places to be that are safer than a GunHugger Gun Range:

http://www.brownsafe.com/blog/10-most-secure-locations-on-the-planet/


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Henry gets it wrong... But we already knew that!  

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The most ubiquitous danger at firing ranges has a lot to do with bullets but
nothing to do with getting shot.

It's all in the lead. A recent report from the National Academy of Sciences found tha
t OSHA lead exposure standards are too lax to protect military firing range employees.
Repeated exposure to the toxic metal causes a raft of health problems including brain
damage, high blood pressure, and anemia.

Lead is found in bullets as well as the explosive that ignites gunpowder. When a bullet
is fired, it gets so hot that that lead actually vaporizes. Firing range employees breathe
in the lead fumes, as well as ingest lead dust that settles on their body and clothes.
OSHA sets the permissible level of atmospheric lead at 50 micrograms/meter2, but the
report found that level frequently exceeded at military firing ranges, sometimes by
several orders of magnitude.


GunHuggers and brain damage due to repeated exposure to lead at the range...
It explains a lot about GunHuggers!


http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2013/01/lead-shooting-ranges-osha


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Henry's "Safest Place To Be"... Unless you're this guy who gets shot in the eye!



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Henry's "Safest Place To Be"... Unless you're this guy who shoots his thumb off!
(What a douche... He says: "It was one of those "malfunctions" where my thumb
went in front of the barrel"!  

The Dumb@ss shot his thumb off and called it a "malfunction"!  
One of the safest places to be!



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Gun Ranges..."One of the safest places to be"!  
OMG FUNNY!!!




The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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'American Sniper' author Chris Kyle fatally shot at Texas gun range


Live by the sword - die by the sword.  

Shot by a fellow soldier whose brains were scrambled in a war.  And the "American Sniper" actually took a man with "mental illness" to a gun range and put a gun in his hands.  Chris Kyle survived the war overseas, only to have the war follow him home and kill him in his own country.


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it has NOTHING to do with good gun regulation....it has to do with the war machine attitude.....

a gun is STILL nothing more than a tool...a tool to be manipulated and used as a human desires.....

it's not much different than humans no longer farming for themselves. they have no respect for their food or it's source, or even
what REAL food is.

a friend of mine thought a 'veal' was another kind of animal......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Live by the sword - die by the sword.  

Shot by a fellow soldier whose brains were scrambled in a war.  And the "American Sniper" actually took a man with "mental illness" to a gun range and put a gun in his hands.  Chris Kyle survived the war overseas, only to have the war follow him home and kill him in his own country.


We all know that war zones are a dangerous place, but Henry thinks that those same weapons
in the hands of novice GunHuggers is "one of the safest places you can be"!

Anywhere that there are guns and GunHuggers is dangerous.


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Don't leave your house today Box the roads are full of unsafe drivers too.
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We all know that war zones are a dangerous place, but Henry thinks that those same weapons
in the hands of novice GunHuggers is "one of the safest places you can be


Safety is relative box.

Texting While Driving Causes:

1. 1,600,000 accidents per year – National Safety Council
2. 330,000 injuries per year – Harvard Center for Risk Analysis Study
3. 11 teen deaths EVERY DAY – Ins. Institute for Hwy Safety Fatality Facts
4. Nearly 25% of ALL car accidents

Don't drive today box, people are packing cell phones.  "Cell phone huggers"


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Don't leave your house today Box the roads are full of unsafe drivers too.

Don't leave your house today Shadow... the streets are full of crazed, armed GunHuggers!



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Safety is relative box.
Texting While Driving Causes:
1. 1,600,000 accidents per year – National Safety Council
2. 330,000 injuries per year – Harvard Center for Risk Analysis Study
3. 11 teen deaths EVERY DAY – Ins. Institute for Hwy Safety Fatality Facts
4. Nearly 25% of ALL car accidents
Don't drive today box, people are packing cell phones.  "Cell phone huggers"

So is Cicero telling us all that he is against Texting While Driving Laws???
"Freedom to die and kill others while texting!!!"


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