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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Business Sides With Obama

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"Having failed to persuade their traditional Republican allies in Congress
to avert a government shutdown, business leaders fear bigger problems ahead,
and they're taking sides with a Democratic president whose health care and
regulatory agenda they have vigorously opposed," the AP reports.

President Obama "is embracing the business outreach, eager to employ groups
like the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and Wall Street CEOs to portray House
Republicans as out of touch even with their long-established corporate and
financial patrons."


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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John Kenneth Galbraith

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Taking a Hostage Without a Plan

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"Boehner does not seem to share his party's sociopathic embrace of hostage tactics.
Boehner resembles William H. Macy's character in Fargo, who concocts a simple plan to have
his wife kidnapped and skim the proceeds, failing to think a step forward about what happens
once she's actually seized by violent criminals. He doesn't intend for her to be harmed, but
also has no ability to control the plan once he's set it in motion. In the end, Boehner's Speakership
is likely to end up in the wood chipper, anyway."




New York
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/10/why-the-shutdown-is-leading-to-debt-default.html


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Shutdown May Give Democrats The House in '14!

A series of 24 new polls show that if the next election for the House of Representatives were
held today, the GOP could well lose at least 17 of the seats they now hold.


The polls were conducted in 24 individual districts. In 17 of them, an unnamed Democrat would
win against the incumbent even before the voter is given information about where he/she stands
on the shutdown. Democrats need to win just 17 additional seats in 2014, in order for the switch
in control of the House to be complete. The 17 already leaning in that direction are in the states
of CA (1), CO (1), FL (3), IA (2), IL (1), KY (1), MA (3), NY(1), OH (1), PA (2), and WI (1). In four
other districts, the incumbent also falls behind the Democrat once the voters know that the
Republican was one of those that supported the federal shutdown – CA (1), NY (2), VA (1).
In only three of the total districts does the Republican still come out on top.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Obamacare is going to give it right back.
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Obamacare is going to give it right back.




The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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It doesn't matter which party wins.....neither party is in it for anything else other than the status quo


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Today's Republican Party is awesome.  I can't wait until the GOP takes back the U.S, Senate in 2014 and the White House in 2016.


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
Pete Vroman for State Assembly 2016[/size][/color]

"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground."
Lyndon Baines Johnson
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Today's Republican Party is awesome.  I can't wait until the GOP takes back the U.S, Senate in 2014 and the White House in 2016.



We simply must send this to his DEM PARTY committee in the town, the city, and the county.


Gee, does he have republican signs his mommies' house this year?





Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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It doesn't matter which party wins.....neither party is in it for anything else other than the status quo


Exactly!!!! They are one in the same! Folks are catching on to this scam!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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I agree with senders and bt. Why did Republicans wait until the last moment to oppose Obamacare? Because they really don't care what happens to the citizenry, it isn't affecting the Republicans one bit, but they had to put on a show for the medium-size business owners and the individuals who are being harmed by this, just so the electorate doesn't catch on that nobody represents us any more.
BTW, where did Michele Obama make a living, and where did she receive a huge raise and promotion when her husband became a senator? Would it be
in the not-for-profit, non-medical part of the health care industry? So would we really expect to see this administration take a close look at why health care can be so out of reach of the average American sometimes?
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I agree with senders and bt. Why did Republicans wait until the last moment to oppose Obamacare? Because they really don't care what happens to the citizenry, it isn't affecting the Republicans one bit, but they had to put on a show for the medium-size business owners and the individuals who are being harmed by this, just so the electorate doesn't catch on that nobody represents us any more.
BTW, where did Michele Obama make a living, and where did she receive a huge raise and promotion when her husband became a senator? Would it be
in the not-for-profit, non-medical part of the health care industry? So would we really expect to see this administration take a close look at why health care can be so out of reach of the average American sometimes?


Until ObamaCare, Health Care was out of reach to many US citizens.  A pre existing condition could make
any type of health care impossible to buy, IF the insurance company would accept you at all.

The vast majority of Americans now have access to health care insurance, except for those
citizens in the poorest Republican states, where their own state legislature turned down their
change to buy affordable health insurance.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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John Kenneth Galbraith

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Speaker John Boehner was quoted last week by Roll Call saying the budget stalemate
"isn't some damn game."

National Review quotes Boehner telling GOP members this morning he wants something that
"puts points on the board."


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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John Kenneth Galbraith

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Box, you didn't answer any of the questions in my post. Maybe you think you did, but you didn't. If Obamacare is "the law of the land", where does Obama get off throwing out the parts of the law he decides he doesn't like, or exempting cronies from its wonders? And how does forcing healthy people to buy insurance help to understand why health care is costing Americans so much? Why does health care cost more than many Americans can afford? Wouldn't a responsible president make an effort to find out? Of course, this is the same president who thinks food stamps are the answer to so many Americans not being able to afford food.
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Box, you didn't answer any of the questions in my post. Maybe you think you did, but you didn't. If Obamacare is "the law of the land", where does Obama get off throwing out the parts of the law he decides he doesn't like, or exempting cronies from its wonders?


Obama can't pass a law... No president can.  Obama care was passed by the house and senate, then
signed into law when the President signed it.  It IS the law of the land.
On it's question of "constitutionality" the US Supreme court ruled on those questions in favor of the law.

Congress can get rid of this law if they want to.  They have the power to get rid of ObamaCare, but
they don't have the votes.
The HOUSE HAS VOTED 40 TIMES TO GET RID OF OBAMACARE AND LOST EVERY TIME.
Do you think they should vote on it 41 times?  45 times?  100 times???

The role of the President in this matter is to implement the law.  Much of it is already in practice and
a major part of it started for Americans on Oct 1st.  

The rest of the developed world has universal health care... the USA is the last major player to
offer health care to it's citizens, and if the Republicans have their way, the GOP will take away
health care insurance from as many as they can.  

ObamaCare is now what is left of Obama's original health care bill.  The GOP has watered down this
law from it's very inception.  As posted above, the poorest Americans, living in the south, have had
Obamacare taken away from them by their own Republican legislature.  When they talk about
"negotiations"... the south lost ObamaCare in those "negotiations".  When they talk about
"Compromise"... The GOP 'compromised" those people right out of their health care.
The "public Option" was originally in Obamacare, but now gone due to GOP "Compromise" .
Vermont and a few other states are now working on a plan to offer all Vermont citizens
the Public Option, and if successful, it may be the plan eventually used for the rest of the USA.








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