10/19/11: Meeting with Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Staff 1/10/12: House Judiciary Committee Staff Briefings (majority and minority separately briefed) 1/11/12: Senate Judiciary Committee Staff Briefings (majority and minority separately briefed) 3/5/12: Meeting with Nancy Pelosi 3/8/12: Meeting with Harry Reid Staff 3/15/12: Law Briefing for Senate Judiciary Committee staff 3/15/12: Briefing for Senate Leadership Staff 3/21/12: Meeting with Mitch McConnell Staff 3/23/12: Senate Judiciary Committee Staff Briefing at NSA 3/27/12: Meeting with Jim Langevin 3/28/12: Meeting with Jan Schakowsky 3/29/12: Thompson Meeting* 3/29/12: Sens. Ron Wyden and Mark Udall Meeting 4/10/12: Senate Judiciary Committee Staff Briefing (in Virginia) 4/20/12: Senate Judiciary Committee Staff Briefing at FBI 5/4/12: Senate Judiciary Committee Staff Briefing 5/31/12: House Judiciary Committee FAA Hearing (unclassified) 6/7/12: House Judiciary Committee MEMBER Briefing (classified) 6/11/12: Meeting with Patrick Leahy Staff 6/21/12: House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence Hearing (classified) 7/18/12: Sens. Sheldon Whitehouse/Richard Blumenthal Meeting 12/10/12: Akaka Meeting
Like I said only a handful which were not allowed to discuss to other members or the public, for someone who is so against the patriot act you sure as hell are defending it, I'm sure if this was Bush you would be blasting this and be up in arms.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Like I said only a handful which were not allowed to discuss to other members or the public, for someone who is so against the patriot act you sure as hell are defending it, I'm sure if this was Bush you would be blasting this and be up in arms.
Was it legal??? YES.
Should the law be changed??? Again Yes!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
The United States Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court FISA court, is a U.S. federal court authorized under 50 U.S.C. § 1803, Pub.L. 95–511, 92 Stat. 1788, enacted October 25, 1978. It was established by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (FISA).
The court oversees requests for surveillance warrants against suspected foreign intelligence agents inside the United States by federal law enforcement agencies..
So all Americans now fall under suspected foreign agents under this administration., good to know.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
BS it was unconstitutional to begin with, if congress passed a bill saying you must become Christian would you accept that because according to them it is legal? Stop blowing this administration and trying to defend their garbage, I known some suck ups in my life but I'm starting to believe you are paid to post your nonsense.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
The United States Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court FISA court, is a U.S. federal court authorized under 50 U.S.C. § 1803, Pub.L. 95–511, 92 Stat. 1788, enacted October 25, 1978. It was established by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (FISA).
The court oversees requests for surveillance warrants against suspected foreign intelligence agents inside the United States by federal law enforcement agencies..
All Americans are suspected foreign intelligence agents.
So when constitutional law professor/senator Obama called warrantless wiretaps illegal in 2007, he didnt know what he was talking about? Or was his solution to issue dragnet warrants that spied on ALL American communications?
So when constitutional law professor/senator Obama called warrantless wiretaps illegal in 2007, he didnt know what he was talking about? Or was his solution to issue dragnet warrants that spied on ALL American communications?
You might confuse him, he might not know what side to take, the Obama of 07 or the scumbag we have in now, I'm sure he will try to support both by mixing up words and spinning the situation.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Intelligence officials overheard joking about how NSA leaker should be 'disappeared' after handing classified documents to press Editor-at-large of The Atlantic Steve Clemons tweeted the 'disturbing' discussion after overhearing it at Washington's Dulles airport on Saturday The four men were speaking loudly and 'almost bragging' They said both the leaker and Guardian reporter Glenn Greenwald, who broke the story, should be 'disappeared' Comes after National Intelligence director James R Clapper defended the surveillance programs for keeping America safe NSA filed criminal report with Justice Dept. in relation to leaks to The Guardian and The Washington Post
By ANNA SANDERS and HELEN POW PUBLISHED: 10:14 EST, 9 June 2013 | UPDATED: 16:14 EST, 9 June 2013
A group of intelligence officials were overheard yesterday discussing how the National Security Agency worker who leaked sensitive documents to a reporter last week should be 'disappeared.' Foreign policy analyst and editor at large of The Atlantic, Steve Clemons, tweeted about the 'disturbing' conversation after listening in to four men who were sitting near him as he waited for a flight at Washington's Dulles airport.
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
All Americans are suspected foreign intelligence agents.
The information collected on Americans is not protected information. Collecting who calls you and who you call is legal. You signed away any right to that information when you signed up for a phone.
It was legal when G Worst Bush did it and it's Legal when Barack Obama does it. If you don't like it, then change the law, or refuse to sign off when you get a phone.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
The information collected on Americans is not protected information. Collecting who calls you and who you call is legal. You signed away any right to that information when you signed up for a phone.
It was legal when G Worst Bush did it and it's Legal when Barack Obama does it. If you don't like it, then change the law, or refuse to sign off when you get a phone.
I signed it away knowing a US spy agency was using the data to make a profile of me, based on who I talk to?
If this is true, and this is legal, why is Diane Feinstein calling Snowden's actions treason? That would imply that she views that making Americans aware of this legal data mining is aiding the enemy - the AMERICAN PEOPLE.
And you still haven't answered why constitutional law professor Obama called Bush's wiretapping illegal during a speech in 2007?
Author of Patriot Act says NSA phone records collection 'never the intent' of law
Published June 06, 2013
FoxNews.com
The author of the Patriot Act said Thursday that a secret program under which the Obama administration was collecting phone records from millions of Americans is "excessive" and beyond the scope of the law.
Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., who wrote the 2001 law, was among a host of lawmakers on both sides of the aisle who raised alarm over the practice.
The Guardian newspaper first reported the National Security Agency had been collecting records under a court order from millions of Verizon customers in the U.S. Defenders of the program tried to ease the furor by assuring the public this is "nothing new" -- and in fact has been going on for seven years. But the acknowledgement that the program is long running only fueled the outrage from civil liberties groups and lawmakers who described it as a blatant overreach.
"This is a big deal, a really big deal," Sensenbrenner told Fox News, adding that such a broad seizure was "never the intent" of the law. He floated the possibility of amending the Patriot Act before its 2015 expiration to stop this.
In a separate statement, he called the program "excessive and un-American."
The Republican lawmaker also fired off a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder -- who would not comment on the program when asked about it Thursday -- explaining why he thinks the records collection goes astray of the law. He noted that the key section of the law that allows the government to obtain business records requires the information to be relevant to an authorized investigation.
"How could the phone records of so many innocent Americans be relevant to an authorized investigation?" he asked in the letter.
He said the order "could not have been drafted more broadly," and said he does not think it's "consistent" with the law's requirements.
A handful of in-the-know lawmakers lined up to defend the program, while acknowledging the need to protect privacy.
Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Mich., chairman of the House intelligence committee, said the effort is not "data mining," and has helped quash a terrorist attack on U.S. soil in the past few years. He would not elaborate.
The leaders of the Senate intelligence committee also defended the program, saying it is "nothing new." Republican Georgia Sen. Saxby Chambliss said it's been going on for seven years.
Chairwoman Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., said these orders are actually renewed every three months through the court. She said the records are there for investigators to access if there is suspicion of terrorist activity.
"The threat from terrorism remains very real and these lawful intelligence activities must continue, with the careful oversight of the executive, legislative and judicial branches of government," Feinstein and Chambliss said in a joint statement.
Speaking later in the day, Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid said "everyone should just calm down."
Administration officials, while not directly acknowledging the order, defended their authority to collect records and stressed they're not listening in on conversations.
However, civil liberties groups and some lawmakers sounded the alarm over the collection effort.
"The National Security Agency's seizure and surveillance of virtually all of Verizon's phone customers is an astounding assault on the Constitution," Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., said.
One civil liberties group called this the "broadest surveillance order to ever have been issued."
"It requires no level of suspicion and applies to all Verizon subscribers anywhere in the U.S.," the Center for Constitutional Rights said in a statement.
Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., who has historically opposed the Patriot Act, said the effort "is not what democracy is about."
The report in the Guardian newspaper follows revelations that the Justice Department was seizing the phone records of journalists, including at Fox News, in the course of leak probes.
The order, a copy of which apparently was obtained by The Guardian, reportedly was granted by the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court on April 25 and is good until July 19.
It requires Verizon, one of the nation's largest telecommunications companies, on an "ongoing, daily basis" to give the NSA information on all telephone calls in its systems, both within the U.S. and between the U.S. and other countries.
The text of the order, as published by The Guardian, says that "the Custodian of Records shall produce to the National Security Agency (NSA) upon service of this Order, and continue production on an ongoing daily basis thereafter for the duration of this Order, unless otherwise ordered by the Court, an electronic copy of the" the records in question.
The newspaper claims the document shows for the first time that under the Obama administration the communication records of millions of U.S. citizens were being collected indiscriminately and in bulk, regardless of whether they were suspected of any wrongdoing.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
And you still haven't answered why constitutional law professor Obama called Bush's wiretapping illegal during a speech in 2007?
Wiretapping without a court order is illegal. Collecting unprotected phone data isn't.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Wiretapping without a court order is illegal. Collecting unprotected phone data isn't.
white wash.....sitting in a diner with a few friends talking about our private lives...police officer sitting in next booth writing down your conversation and filing it is OK?
your definition of unprotected means you agree that the ONLY protection you ever deserve as a human being is that which a fellow human, set above yourself can legislate and call your worth/value/protection....
WOW!
JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING IS LEGAL DOESN'T MAKE IT RIGHT JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING IS ILLEGAL DOESN'T MAKE IT WRONG
what makes you a valuable human being? only that which is legislated to give you value/rights?
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
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