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Reasons Texans can't get a voter ID.  They are not eligible to vote because their right to vote was abridged because they violated a drug law that was unconstitutional.


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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Johnny Rotten vs. Russell Brand: The Blasphemous Case for Anarchist Voting  0
By Jake Shannon on     OCTOBER 23, 2014 Philosophy, Politics


The recent war of words between legendary Sex Pistols punk rocker Johnny Rotten (real name, John Lydon) and comedian Russell Brand highlights an interesting schism that we have in the “liberty movement” as well. In case you hadn’t heard, the infamous singer of “Anarchy in the UK” strongly rebuked Russell Brand’s latest advice that people ought to refrain from voting since democracy has failed. Brand wants you to reject voting in favor of social action akin to what the Occupy Movement has been doing. Lydon went so far as to call Brand a “bum hole” for telling people to abandon voting (I guess he hadn’t read my article on my idea of the “non-passive aggressive principle” yet).

Having been libertarian for a couple decades now, I can already hear the howl of the orthodox anarcho-capitalists/agorists siding with (gasp) Russell Brand on this. The echo chamber of rehashed bromides and pre-digested thoughts inside my skull sounds something like this:

“When was an election ever decided by one vote?”
“85% of Americans disapprove of their Representatives in Congress.”
“If voting changed anything they’d make it illegal.”
“Statist!”

Well, as lovely as those pithy phrases may be, often times they are poorly used as a short-cut to intelligent thinking, a place-holder for individualistic expression, and I am especially looking at many of the post-Ron Paul Revolution newbie libertarians. The irony seems to be lost on many of the ‘holier-than-thou’ neophyte anarcho-capitalists that only came to be anarchist as a direct result of the “statist” political efforts of Ron Paul. If it weren’t for Ron Paul’s efforts to get elected, they may never have heard of the likes of Rothbard, Mises, et al.

This brings me to my point, I am anarchist/libertarian and I tend to agree with both John Lydon and Russell Brand in this dispute. Not because I think the political system is awesome or because I am a “statist” but because I am in favor of anything and everything that peacefully increases individual liberty. For example, in Colorado and Washington state, thanks to law changes individuals can now recreationally smoke marijuana without the risk of SWAT teams maiming people with a flashbang grenade or shooting family dogs. In my opinion, if you are serious about liberty you will use whatever peaceful means you have available; that means voting, protests, boycotts, slacktivism, education, whistleblowing, etc.



Look, non-voters have traditionally made up the largest segment of Americans and this country is still in the shitter. The fact is sometimes voting works and sometimes it doesn’t. So because I am willing to use the state against the state itself, does that mean I get my anarchist membership card revoked? My take on individualist anarchism may be different than yours but I find that voting and using the electoral process for pedagogical purposes (just as Ron Paul did) can be another viable tool in my toolkit for sticking it to the man. Does that make me “unprincipled” to be an anarchist that uses voting to help neuter the state? Maybe, but I suppose that is what is so great about being a Discordian Libertarian – I have my own way of looking at libertarianism. Hail Eris!


Read more at http://www.punkrocklibertarian.....#hLPKJLgTdwWY4fbd.99


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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40,000 Voter Registrations Have  Vanished In Georgia

Earlier this year, organizers fanned out across nearly every one of Georgia’s 159 counties and
registered nearly 90 thousand people who have never voted in their lives, most of them people
of color, many of them under 25 years old. But when the groups checked back in late August,
comparing their registration database to the state’s public one, they noticed about 50,000 of
the registrations had vanished, nearly all of them belonging to people of color in the Democratic-leaning
regions around Atlanta, Savannah and Columbus.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Why suppress the vote.  Just do what democrats do, rig the machines to turn votes cast for republicans and cast them for democrats.  It's easier than suppressing the vote.


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If photo ID is required to vote, then ID cards must be available for free.

Otherwise it is a voting tax.
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If photo ID is required to vote, then ID cards must be available for free.

Otherwise it is a voting tax.


A rare occasion, we agree.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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If photo ID is required to vote, then ID cards must be available for free.

Otherwise it is a voting tax.


you need an ID to get treated by an MD....if you have no ID they call the 'authorities'..........and now that the IRS is involved
you need ID to prove you paid for health insurance or at least got the subsidy....

soooooo, if you have health insurance you must have ID therefore you can vote?


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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If photo ID is required to vote, then ID cards must be available for free.

Otherwise it is a voting tax.


You need ID for employment.  Are I-9  mandates considered employment tax?  You need ID to enroll in Obamacare.  Is that an medical insurance tax?


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Voter fraud happens... Only On FoxSnooze!  




The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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you voted for government healthcare/you voted for government licensing you WILL get government ID voting....


you will reap what you have sown


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Comrade Box, you should be worried when people stop voting, because that's when empires cease to exist.

These guys never fired a shot, they just refused to play the game anymore.

Just say no to unfair governments.

It works.

Freedom doesn't come from having the most nuclear weapons, it comes from people willing to be free to make their own future.



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When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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