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Here is a voter who was "purged" from his right to vote.  He's neither a minority or lazy.

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The same story you keep bringing up, yes there was a fck up but it was not done on purpose and had zero to do with ID's. The 1st time I went to vote they had my name on the wrong list and told me I had to vote for a democrat. That wasn't going to happen and after a few minutes of holding up the line they got it corrected quickly.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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The same story you keep bringing up, yes there was a fck up but it was not done on purpose and had zero to do with ID's. The 1st time I went to vote they had my name on the wrong list and told me I had to vote for a democrat. That wasn't going to happen and after a few minutes of holding up the line they got it corrected quickly.


No matter how you're registered, you never have to vote for a Democrat or a Republican, unless the
vote was in a primary.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Voter suppression 2012...
Just a few examples:

~Missouri tries to sell voter suppression as "voter protection."

Hoping to get a piece of the photo ID pie, Missouri legislators introduced a photo ID ballot
initiative under the misleading name "Voter Protection Act." Advancement Project and co-counsel
challenged the measure in 2011, arguing that there is nothing "protective" about placing
unnecessary restrictions on the right to vote -- restrictions that could disenfranchise up to 250,000 Missouri voters.

This year a judge agreed that the initiative's deceptive language failed to inform citizens of
what, exactly, they'd be voting on. It was removed from the 2012 ballot.

~ Ohio meddles with its wildly successful early voting period.

Ohio lawmakers got to planning back in 2010 when, for no legitimate reason, they eliminated
the last three days of early voting (except for active-duty military or voting overseas).
It's no coincidence that African-American voters are more likely to cast early ballots, and
in 2008, when Obama won the state, nearly 100,000 Ohioans voted during those
last three days of early voting.


~ Ohio to voters: If election officials make a mistake, too bad.

Previously under Ohio law, election officials threw out all provisional ballots cast in the wrong
precinct, even if a voter was following a poll worker's instructions- - and even if the voter
was in the right polling place but in the wrong line! This affected thousands of black voters,
whose communities are more likely to have several precincts grouped together in a single
polling place. These voters were going to the right location, but poll workers sometimes
directed them to the wrong table or provided the wrong ballot.

~Florida targets "Souls to the Polls."

The Florida legislature reduced the state's early voting window from two weeks to eight days.
The move expressly took out the Sunday before Election Day, the date when black churches
organized successful statewide "Souls to the Polls" campaigns encouraging their congregants
to vote. Coincidence?

Not according to former Florida Republican Party Chair Jim Greer, who admitted the party held
meetings about strategies (including reductions in early voting) for "keeping blacks from voting.
" Former Governor Charlie Crist also said that during his term, GOP leaders approached him about
changing early voting in an effort to weaken Democratic turnout.

~Florida takes on the Boy Scouts and League of Women Voters.

Not content with just making it harder to vote, Florida legislators also made it harder to register
to vote. A 2011 law placed onerous requirements and penalties on voter registration drives. All
completed registration forms, for example, had to be submitted to election officials within 48
hours or face a fine of $1,000 per application. The law had its intended effect: many groups,
including the Boy Scouts and the League of Women Voters, shut down their voter registration
operations in Florida as a result.

Although damage was done during the 12 months that the law stood (registration dropped by a
staggering 14 percent), in 2012 a federal court struck it down for disproportionately affecting
voters of color, who are more likely to register from voter registration drives.

Voter Suppression isn't just about voter ID's... as defined above, it's about stealing elections
by limiting your opponents votes.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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No matter how you're registered, you never have to vote for a Democrat or a Republican, unless the
vote was in a primary.


It was in a primary and they had me registered in the wrong log book, it was a mistake although I didn't like the person telling me I had to vote democrat, that made me wonder if it wasn't a mistake at 1st.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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It was in a primary and they had me registered in the wrong log book, it was a mistake although
I didn't like the person telling me I had to vote democrat, that made me wonder if it wasn't a
mistake at 1st.


I live in a Republican Swamp... often, in off year elections there isn't one Democrat on the ballot.
In many elections, there are only Republicans running against each other in the primary and that
Republicans victor automatically wins the office with no vote in the general election.

Mistakes are made in elections, and in your case, either you mistakenly registered in the wrong party
or the election worker made the mistake and registered you in the wrong party...
or
It was a case of 'election fraud' but not 'VOTER FRAUD'.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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is voting a right or privilege ?
is driving a right or privilege?
is having a gun a right or privilege?


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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is voting a right or privilege ?
is driving a right or privilege?
is having a gun a right or privilege?


All rights


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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is voting a right or privilege ?
is driving a right or privilege?
is having a gun a right or privilege?
All rights


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The RIGHT TO VOTE, is not explicitly stated in the US Constitution.
Originally, the U.S. Constitution did not define which citizens could vote, and was simply built
around a concept of rights of "person"—with voting not explicitly included in those rights.
When founded, most U.S. states allowed only Caucasian males—who either owned property
(i.e., at least 50 acres of land, usually), or, had incomes high enough to be taxed—to vote.

The "right to vote" is not explicitly stated in the U.S. Constitution except in the below referenced
amendments, and only in reference to the fact that the franchise cannot be denied or abridged
based solely on the aforementioned qualifications. In other words, the "right to vote" is perhaps
better understood, in layman's terms, as only prohibiting certain forms of legal discrimination in
establishing qualifications for suffrage. States may deny the "right to vote" for other reasons.


~ Birth - "All persons born or naturalized" "are citizens" of the U.S. and the U.S. State where
they reside (14th Amendment, 1868)
~ "Race, color, or previous condition of servitude" - (15th Amendment, 1870)
~ "On account of sex" - (19th Amendment, 1920)
~ In Washington, D.C., presidential elections (23rd Amendment, 1961)
~ (For federal elections) "By reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax" - (24th
Amendment, 1964)
~ (For state elections) Taxes - (14th Amendment; Harper v. Virginia Board of Elections,
383 U.S. 663 (1966))
~"Who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote, shall not be denied or abridged by the
United States or by any state on account of age" (26th Amendment, 1971).


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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is voting a right or privilege ?
is driving a right or privilege?
is having a gun a right or privilege?
All rights


Driving a car is a revocable privilege... Just get a DWI and see if it's a "right".


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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is voting a right or privilege ?
is driving a right or privilege?
is having a gun a right or privilege?
All rights


Guns ownership a "limited right"...

Quoted Text
Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right
to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever
purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the
Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt
on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally
ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and
government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial
sale of arms. [United States v.] Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected
are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of
prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons.



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Driving a car is a revocable privilege... Just get a DWI and see if it's a "right".


Get a felony and see if you can vote.  US prison are disproportionately filled with minorities.  Who's right to vote is being suppressed?


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Get a felony and see if you can vote.


As I posted above... None are absolute RIGHTS.


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As I posted above... None are absolute RIGHTS.


Then they are all privileges.  


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Then they are all privileges.  


Again, it's one or the other for Cissy.     He lives in a Black or White World.


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Again, it's one or the other for Cissy.     He lives in a Black or White World.


That's what laws are.  I understand the ACA may have confused you of that fact.  Where deadlines aren't really deadlines--just suggestions.


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