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U.S. Currency Finally Achieves Universal Suffrage
NEWS • Economy • News • ISSUE 50•13 • Apr 3, 2014

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WASHINGTON—Saying they had awaited this day for decades, activists across the country celebrated yesterday following the Supreme Court’s landmark decision to grant full and universal suffrage to American currency.

The decision from the nation’s highest court, which was greeted with cheers from advocates and interest groups that have long worked tirelessly on behalf of money, ensures that U.S. dollars can no longer be disenfranchised, and for the first time in history, guarantees that every single one of them will be free to participate in the democratic process with no restrictions whatsoever.

“This is an absolutely historic day for American money; after years of fighting and struggling, our government has finally declared that U.S. cash, irrespective of amount, can no longer be barred from the American electoral system,” said University of Pennsylvania historian Dr. James Mattis, who argued that, while the goal took decades to achieve and at points appeared bleak—particularly during the repressive McCain-Feingold years—few could deny that suffrage for all U.S. capital was inevitable. “This has been a long time coming, and we can now say with certainty that the fight to ensure that every single American dollar has a say in our government is finally over. Now, at long last, all U.S. money has a voice in Washington—a strong, loud, clear voice that can no longer be suppressed or silenced by anyone.”

“This was a long and difficult march, and many fortunes were tragically suppressed along the way, but finally achieving universal suffrage for money makes all those difficult times completely worth it,” continued Mattis. “This is truly a great moment for money across the country.”

Mattis explained that the fight for currency’s suffrage in America dates as far back as the nation’s founding, noting that while pro-cash advocates faced countless setbacks over the course of history, money has always come together in the face of legislative restrictions and judicial rulings to eventually triumph over all legal and political obstacles.

According to historians, the movement suffered arguably its biggest blow from the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971, which stripped many amounts of currency from playing any role in government. However, a group of defiant advocates in Washington crusaded for the rights of money, and in a major victory for U.S. currency proponents, the Supreme Court struck down several FECA provisions in 1976 as unconstitutional, beginning a gradual shift that has seen money gain a larger and larger voice in both local and national elections in the years since.

According to Mattis, such events blazed the trail for the Supreme Court’s watershed Citizens United ruling in 2010, which was at the time the country’s most significant milestone for currency suffrage. Building on the momentum from that ruling, Mattis noted that money was able to win over many sympathetic legislators in Congress and fund television and radio ad blitzes that successfully promoted its cause, eventually culminating in Wednesday’s decision.

For many longtime advocates of currency suffrage, who have for years maintained that American cash has been denied a significant enough role in determining the direction the country is headed in and who have bravely stood up in the face of popular sentiment against monetary suffrage, yesterday’s ruling was especially satisfying.

“After all these years of tireless effort, it is deeply validating to see the Supreme Court come to its senses and give all money the freedom to engage in the political process,” said 80-year-old business magnate and lifelong currency suffrage proponent Sheldon Adelson. “Frankly, this ruling is long overdue. This isn’t the 1800s anymore; you can’t just leave major political decisions to limited groups of money—you have to hear from all of it. Over the decades, a lot of stubborn, resistant people have tried to rally against expanding the rights of money, but at the end of the day, those efforts to thwart the progress of money’s role in American government failed. Slowly but surely, the strength of cash prevailed. When you have enough cash working together for a single cause, no one can silence its voice.”

“I couldn’t be happier right now,” added Adelson, his eyes welling with tears of joy. “You have no idea what this means to me.”

Sources noted, however, that yesterday’s Supreme Court decision only narrowly passed by a vote of 5 to 4, having been pushed through despite vocal opposition from hardened, dissenting justices who have long attempted to impede the progress of U.S. currency. However, members of the court’s majority took a bold and historic stand in favor of money, arguing that universal currency suffrage is an unimpeachable right and that their decision corrects a longstanding historical wrong.

“There is no right in American democracy more elementary and fundamental than the right to elect political representatives,” Chief Justice John Roberts wrote in the court’s majority opinion. “Simply put, we cannot uphold the U.S. Constitution while continuing to deny and abridge money from full suffrage within all levels of government. All manner of U.S. dollars—from the biggest bank account to the smallest bills—deserve the opportunity to be heard within American democracy, as well as the full freedom to promote their political interests.”

“And as long as I have a say in the matter,” Roberts continued, “they will be heard.”


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

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Much is being made this year of all the ID laws states are adopting. The left, pandering to their useful idiots, are claiming racism.

Now let me get this straight.

The reason ID laws are bad is because the poor don’t have them? Do the poor ever collect welfare, food stamps, HUD, HEAP, Medicaid or any number of safety net benefits? Because, you see, all these programs have one thing in common. They require a photo ID. It’s not like we asked them for their birth certificates. (Dig intended)

And secondly, liberals try saying that voter fraud is nonexistant. I propose we investigate that claim.

    (2010) A woman official at the NAACP in Mississippi was convicted of ten counts of voter fraud. She used the lax ID laws in order to vote illegally 10 times.
    (2010) Four democratic officials pleaded guilty to trying to steal an election for the Working Families Party (ACORN)
    (2010) Eight women in Madison Fla were arrested for illegally voting for a total of 45 votes. The NAACP claims these arrests are racial. Again, absentee ballots were forged.
    (2010) In Georgia, 12 democrats were arrested for faking absentee votes.
    (2008) 4 democrats in NC admit voting multiple times for Obama in 2008.
    (2010) 2 Daytona Beach democrats arrested for absentee voter fraud.
    (2010) An illegal alien in Illinois admits to voting and is facing 17 charges of voter fraud. (Democrat of course)
    (2008) In Indiana, they have two issues brewing, absentee fraud and signature fraud by Obama workers.
    (2008) Obama , it seems was not eligible to be on the Indiana state primary ballot. 500 signatures were needed and 534 were turned in but at least 150 were faked, meaning Obama was not eligible to run in Indiana.
    (2010) In Ohio there are three cases. One was Jennifer Brunner who tried to deny tens of thousands of republican registrations without legal reasons. She was b**ch slapped by the courts, then went on to lose the race for the senate.
    (2008) Obama campaign workers registered and voted, despite being warned in advance that it was illegal. The Ohio Attorney General declined to prosecute. (jennifer Brunner again. Brunner, Strickland and Dann, were elected in 2006 on an anticorruption platform. Dann had to resign within a year for multiple counts of corruption, Brunner tried to illegally block republican voters and Strickland sent out warning letters to Obama campaign workers working for the state who illegally assessed Joe the Plumber’s personal records and turned them over to Obama. All are not out of politics) And the third case of fraud concerned NY residents who rented an address in Ohio and used it to vote for Obama. The attorney gen declined to prosecute. (Jennifer Brunner)
    (2012) 2500 absentee ballots were requested fraudulently in Florida.
    (2013)  63 special agents tried voting under names which should have been rejected because the voter was either dead, had moved, or were in prison.  61 or 97% were allowed to vote.
    (2009, 2011,2012) Melowese Richardson voter for Barack Obama 2 times and multiple times in 2009 and 2011 and was sentenced to 5 years in prison.  She served just 8 months.  After her release, she received a standing ovation at a Cincinnati Democratic meeting.  She is allowed to go back to work in the polls next election.
    (2011) In a special election in Arkansas, one of the candidates, Kent Hallum, admitted to buying votes and to throwing out ballots marked for his opponents.
    (2008) Al Franken’s election to the Senate was rife with fraud.  Felons and the dead voted among other suspicious activity.
    (2012)  The AFL-CIO on the West Coast informed members that their voting was a matter of public record.  I broke that story just before the 2012 election.   Hundreds of thousands of union members were told that the union could check on how they voted .  This of course was a lie.  They can see if you voted but not how you voted.
    (2012) At least 17 illegal aliens voted in Ohio.
    (2008) 2812 dead people voted in the election.
    (2012) 785 people in North Carolina voted there and in other states in 2012.
    (2012) Also in North Carolina, 583 people voted who are over 112 years of age.

This is just the tip of the iceberg since most voter fraud goes undetected.  74% of all Americans want voter ID laws.  The only large group that objects are liberals who cannot win elections on their own.  The key to the 2014 election is keeping the illegal votes to a minimum.

http://buzzpo.com/documented-voter-fraud-real-thing-baby/?relatedposts_exclude=7383


We are advised NOT to judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics.   Funny how that works.
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Harry, If you read the link for many of these cases they are ELECTION FRAUD, not VOTER FRAUD.
Voter ID laws will have little or no effect on ELECTION FRAUD.  
Some Right Wing websites report both ELECTION FRAUD and VOTER  FRAUD as the same thing... they
are very different.

An example... if an election official forges absentee ballots, that is Election Fraud and whether the
actual voters had an ID or not would not matter.  

Bush Administration 5 Year Study Finds Little Evidence of Voter Fraud.
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WASHINGTON,  Five years after the Bush administration began a crackdown on voter fraud,
the Justice Department has turned up virtually no evidence of any organized effort to skew federal
elections, according to court records and interviews.

NY Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/washington/12fraud.html?pagewanted=all


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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No one should object to showing a photo id when going to vote.  It is quite simple to get a photo i.d. even if one is not a driver.


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Much is being made this year of all the ID laws states are adopting. The left, pandering to their useful idiots, are claiming racism.



As I posted before the left claims racism even though they're the ones saying the minorities and the poor are to lazy to go get an ID, I hope they're waking up to the real racist here.


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As I posted before the left claims racism even though they're the ones saying the minorities and the poor are to lazy to go get an ID, I hope they're waking up to the real racist here.


The LEFT claims that the poor and minorities are too LAZY TO GET AN ID???
Got a link???


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The LEFT claims that the poor and minorities are too LAZY TO GET AN ID???
Got a link???


Your whole argument is based on that theory, you want them to be the victim even though there is no excuse why they can't do what everyone else is willing to do. I'm in the poverty level and I had no problem getting my license, I had to save longer then most to afford my vehicle but I did it, if I can do it anyone else can you can bet on that.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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The LEFT claims that the poor and minorities are too LAZY TO GET AN ID???
Got a link???


Why does Biden think the id requirement is racism?  It doesn't affect white people?  Why can't minorities get ID's?  Why can't they comply but white voters can?  What is he implying by calling the Voter ID Laws evidence of racism?  Are white people exempt?  

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During an event honoring African-American History Month Tuesday evening, Vice President Joe Biden pressed Congress to restore the Voting Rights Act and said that voter ID laws offered in some southern states are evidence of lingering racism.

He specifically pointed to voting legislation in North Carolina, Alabama and Texas as examples of what's going wrong on the state level.


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/joe-biden-sees-lingering-hatred-in-voter-id-laws/


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As I posted before the left claims racism even though they're the ones saying the minorities and the poor are to lazy to go get an ID,


Quoted from Henry

Your whole argument is based on that theory, you want them to be the victim even though there is no excuse why they can't do what everyone else is willing to do. I'm in the poverty level and I had no problem getting my license, I had to save longer then most to afford my vehicle but I did it, if I can do it anyone else can you can bet on that.


Again...
The LEFT claims that the poor and minorities are too LAZY TO GET AN ID???
Got a link???


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Again...
The LEFT claims that the poor and minorities are too LAZY TO GET AN ID???
Got a link???


Box go back to all your posts, that is exactly what you are saying. So again how is it racist to ask for ID's, how is it unfair to the poor?


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Box go back to all your posts, that is exactly what you are saying. So again how is it racist to ask for ID's, how is it unfair to the poor?


Henry is trying one of Cicero's straw men.  
I don't think that voter ID laws are 'racist'.  I think they are used (as the thread title clearly states)
to steal elections by voter suppression.

The voter suppression is aimed at Democrats, not a particular race.
Much as if I suppressed the vote of rich yacht owners... It wouldn't be 'racial', it would be to help
steal an election.



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Now why would he post this if he didn't think racism was linked to this. So now he is trying to switch tactics and say it is targeting democrats, so as with race how is ID's somehow unfair to democrats, this should be good.


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Henry is trying one of Cicero's straw men.  
I don't think that voter ID laws are 'racist'.  I think they are used (as the thread title clearly states)
to steal elections by voter suppression.

The voter suppression is aimed at Democrats, not a particular race.
Much as if I suppressed the vote of rich yacht owners... It wouldn't be 'racial', it would be to help
steal an election.


Why can't democrats get Id's and republicans can?  Can Green Party members get ID's?  There are a lot of political parties.  Does this law only single out registered democrats?


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Now why would he post this if he didn't think racism was linked to this. So now he is trying to switch tactics and say it is targeting democrats, so as with race how is ID's somehow unfair to democrats, this should be good.


The democrats should trick the republicans by registering republican BUT voting democrat.  Then they will be able to get voter ID's because the law will think they are republicans and not deny them an ID.


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Now why would he post this if he didn't think racism was linked to this. So now he is trying to switch tactics and say it is targeting democrats, so as with race how is ID's somehow unfair to democrats, this should be good.


There is a racial element in the voter ID laws... and that sentiment is fostered to help bring in
the faithful Right Wing Racists and skinheads to help with the cause.  
Racism is a powerful motivation for some Right Wingers... but the ID Laws are not anti race, they are
for the purpose of stealing elections


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