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Congrats Democrats!

If Obama had a son....




"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for
GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'

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Baltimore Police say they have received a "credible threat" that rival gangs have teamed
up to "take out" law enforcement officers.

Police said in a statement that they have received information that members of "various gangs"
— including the Black Guerrilla Family, the Bloods and the Crips — have "entered into a partnership"
to harm police.
Baltimore Sun
http://www.baltimoresun.com/ne.....-20150427-story.html


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Baltimore Police say they have received a "credible threat" that rival gangs have teamed
up to "take out" law enforcement officers.

Police said in a statement that they have received information that members of "various gangs"
— including the Black Guerrilla Family, the Bloods and the Crips — have "entered into a partnership"
to harm police.
Baltimore Sun
http://www.baltimoresun.com/ne.....-20150427-story.html


Geez...And you've been telling me all this time it was going to be right wing "sovereign citizens" that were the threat.


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Geez...And you've been telling me all this time it was going to be right wing "sovereign citizens"
that were the threat.


That was Homeland Security (under G Worst Bush) who concluded that Right Wing Terrorists,
like the Oathcreapes and sovereign citizens are the threat.

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A new intelligence assessment, circulated by the Department of Homeland Security
this month and reviewed by CNN, focuses on the domestic terror threat from right-wing
sovereign citizen extremists and comes as the Obama administration holds a White
House conference to focus efforts to fight violent extremism.

Some federal and local law enforcement groups view the domestic terror threat from
sovereign citizen groups as equal to -- and in some cases greater than -- the threat
from foreign Islamic terror groups, such as ISIS, that garner more public attention.​

The Homeland Security report, produced in coordination with the FBI, counts 24 violent
sovereign citizen-related attacks across the U.S. since 2010



http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/19/politics/terror-threat-homeland-security/


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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That was Homeland Security (under G Worst Bush) who concluded that Right Wing Terrorists,
like the Oathcreapes and sovereign citizens are the threat.




http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/19/politics/terror-threat-homeland-security/


Yeah..,I guess Homeland Security misjudged that one.  I haven't seen right wing sovereign citizens "terrorizing" city governments, burning down cities, and openly declaring to kill cops.  Hmmm...where have I seen that....oh yeah!  You just posted a link.LOL


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Claiming to be a free man makes you a potential domestic terrorist.

Actually being free, is now domestic terrorism, and a threat.
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Local police departments (LPDs) across the nation are incorporated as specialized non-profits. Most LPDs are known to the Secretary of State in their respective state as an association which gives the impression to the average citizen that this is a union. However this is not the case.

The LPDs are contracted by the City Council to preform police services and securitize the city they are hired in. This is the exchange of a local government hiring a private security firm to stabilize the local population and generate revenue for the city through tickets, arrests and recording infractions. However, this does not include upholding local laws, as the County Sheriff’s Office is elected to take charge of.

The problem with this system is that the LPDs, being corporations, are subject to corporate law. And corporations fall into dissolution (i.e. the termination of the corporation) for various reasons quite often. When it is the LPD that dissolves; this becomes a question of legal authority over the citizens by the hired private security firm known as the LPD.

Corporations that dissolve are not allowed by law to conduct business. These same rules apply to the LPD that is actually a corporation hired by the local government or city council to preform police services.

For example, in the State of Oregon, over 12 LPDs are in dissolution. On the Secretary of State website, when a LPD is dissolved it is classified as “INA” or inactive. This includes LPDs in the following cities:

• Beaverton
• Canby
• Charleston
• Eugene
• Gresham
• King County
• Lake Oswego
• Lebanon
• Portland
• Sherwood
• Weston

According to corporate law, if a corporation dissolves, it must withdraw as a business entity. This means that once the LPD is dissolved, they cannot continue to perform police services for the city in which they were hired.

And in fact, should this be brought to the public, it might be common place (as it is in the State of Oregon) that LPDs are in dissolution and not legally allowed to conduct police services because they lack legal authority as a dissolved corporation.

It also stands that the local governments that are privy to this information would be involved in not only egregious corruption but are knowingly misleading the citizens of their towns and cities. Once the LPD is dissolved, from the date of dissolution, any arrest, ticket, or police service preformed is now an illegal act. It is tantamount to a citizen impersonating a police officer which as serious legal ramifications.

Should citizens become aware of this fact in their city – that their LPD is a corporation that has dissolved and is continuing to operate as if they have legal right to do so – there would be justified legal recourse for every citizen who had been arrested, jailed, forced to pay a ticket of any kind and forced to appear in municipal court under those circumstances (including court costs, attorney’s fees and fees attributed by the court).

In 2012, Louis F. Quijas, Assistant Secretary of the Office for State and Local Law Enforcement (OSLLE), for the US Department of Homeland Security (DHS) explained the purpose of the OSLLE as a front “office that provided coordination and partnership with state, local, and tribal law enforcement.”

The OSLLE was recommended by the 9/11 Commission. It was created to “lead the coordination of DHS-wide policies relating to state, local, and tribal law enforcement’s role in preventing acts of terrorism and to serve as the primary liaison between non-Federal law enforcement agencies across the country and the Department.”

Intelligence is disseminated through OSLLE to LPDs or “non-Federal law enforcement partners” to keep information flowing through initiatives such as the “If You See Something, Say Something™”, the Blue Campaign, the Nationwide Suspicious Activity Reporting (SAR) Initiative (NSI), and the Department’s efforts in Countering Violent Extremism.

OSLLE consistently works with LPDs on education, actionable information, operations and intelligence for the purpose of their part in the operations of the DHS with regard to keeping “our homeland safe”.

OSLLE also works as a liaison between LPDs to maintain DHS leadership and considerations of “issues, concerns, and requirements of state, local, and tribal law enforcement during budget, grant, and policy development processes.”

The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) upholds relationships with LPDs for the purposes of and participation with National Preparedness Grant Program that began this year.

To ensure that local police departments continue to meet the requirements of training from DHS, officers regularly attend the DHS Federal Law Enforcement Training Centers (FLETC) in Glynco, Georgia.

LPDs are focused through OSLLE and DHS to “remain vigilant and to protect our communities from all threats, whether terrorism or other criminal activities” as DHS expands its control over local law enforcement and the communities they oversee.

As stated in the DHS directive from the Office for State and Local Law Enforcement (SLLE), the assistant Secretary for SLLE has “the primary official responsible for leading the coordination of Department-wide policies related to the role of state, tribal, and local law enforcement in preventing, preparing for, protecting against, and responding to natural disasters, acts of terrorism and other man- made disasters within the US.”

This directive also sets guidelines of advocacy for DHS by the LPDs. Authorization of DHS to take over LPDs is given in Title 6 of the United States Code, Section 607, “Terrorism prevention”.

In 2008, the Bureau of Justice Statistics stated that LPD “make up more than two-thirds of the 18,000 state and local law enforcement agencies in the US” which translates to an estimated 12,501 law enforcement agencies. Of those LPDs, there are more than 461,000 sworn officers.

Last year President Obama signed an executive order (EO) that created the White House Homeland Security Partnership Council and Steering Committee which tied DHS to local partnerships, federal and private institutions “to address homeland security challenges.”

Members of the Steering Committee include:

• Department of State
• Department of US Treasury
• Department of Defense
• Department of Justice
• Department of Transportation
• Department of Veterans Affairs
• The Federal Bureau of Investigations

In 2011, Congress encouraged private sector “police companies” to replace law enforcement on the State and local level by coercing a new police protection insurance that would tack on a fee to citizens for the use of “police protection”.

This move was justified by having citizens pay for the police to be called to scenes as a “communal service” that is contractual just as any other service or good is paid for. As a customer, the citizen would tell 911 dispatch their insurance information for payment purposes to be billed after the police were deployed to the scene, or services were rendered.

Turning LPDs into private security firms that provide services to the public was the scheme behind privatizing law enforcement.

Under state government contract, private security firms preform law enforcement services. With legislative bodies on both the state and Congressional level supporting this change, private corporations enter into contractual agreements with city councils to provide armed security patrol. Just as a rent-a-cop is hired to secure private property, local police departments are masked rent-a-cops that were hired by local government to secure their city.

This fact has been hidden from public scrutiny and has added to the blending of social perception of what the police are and what they do so that police services are able to function without question. At the same time, citizens are expected to pay fees for these “services” that were once inherent to life in a structured town or city.

In early 2012, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) released a report entitled “Homeland Security and Intelligence: Next Steps in Evolving the Mission” which outlined in part on how to redirect efforts of the federal government from international terrorism toward home-grown terrorists and build a DHS-controlled police force agency that would control all cities and towns through the use of local police departments.

DHS maintains that “the threat grows more localized” which necessitates the militarization of local police in major cities in the US and the training of staff from local agencies to make sure that oversight is restricted to the federal government.

Private corporations have been parading as public servants policing cities and towns across America without the knowledge of the average citizen for quite some time. Although they wear the same badges as LPDs of the past, these private security firms are not there to uphold peace or enforce any laws and city ordinances. Just like any other corporation, they seek out opportunities to collect revenue for the benefit of the city that hired them.


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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I worked with some folks that 'got out' of Baltimore and moved to Schenectady because it was quiet here. They wouldn't say it was 'better'
per say.

Humans flock to familiarity and what 'feels like home'.

What's funny about the Baltimore issue is that it was like that since the 60's. The hippies started it but did not follow through and left
this. It's all over the country in all kinds of redlined areas. They can pretend it wasn't of their making and live in their nice suburbia white
picket fence home and talk about how they were movers and shakers but without follow through. They to flocked to what
'feels like home' and were never vested, but they looked 'cool' and never trusted anyone over 30, until....................................


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Baltimore Police say they have received a "credible threat" that rival gangs have teamed
up to "take out" law enforcement officers.

Police said in a statement that they have received information that members of "various gangs"
— including the Black Guerrilla Family, the Bloods and the Crips — have "entered into a partnership"
to harm police.
Baltimore Sun
http://www.baltimoresun.com/ne.....-20150427-story.html


It seems to be getting tougher these days for Democrats to keep the blacks from uprising on the plantations.

EDIT:

Just wanted to add that the Plantation Manager Mayor's plan of giving space for those who 'wish to destroy' was a HUGE success!

Leading from behind works! Thanks Obama!







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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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It seems to be getting tougher these days for Democrats to keep the blacks from uprising on the plantations.

EDIT:

Just wanted to add that the Plantation Manager Mayor's plan of giving space for those who 'wish to destroy' was a HUGE success!

Leading from behind works! Thanks Obama!





^5

It's said Sharpton is planning a march from Baltimore to Washington!

On the flip side of all of this.....what the cops did to that guy (breaking his spine) is HORRIFIC!
And America is suppose to be civilized??
And we call beheadings HORRIFIC??????

Funny ain't it....black folks riot for injustice.....white folks riot when their sports team loses!!!!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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this kind of police brutality is happening all over this country....to both blacks, whites, females, males etc......

My God.....the rpd broke a kids arm while on a school bus........REMEMBER?????


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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My God.....the rpd broke a kids arm while on a school bus........REMEMBER?????


The kid was interfering with government business by sitting in a school bus.  The kid was terrorizing the school district.  You let the kid get away with interfering with government business, then all the kids will start doing it.  That would be the end of western civilization as we know it.  Great job keeping order officer Ryan!


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Baltimore’s violent protesters are right: Smashing police cars is a legitimate political strategy
It's crucial to see non-violence as a tactic, not a philosophy. If it fails to win people over it's a futile tactic

As a nation, we fail to comprehend Black political strategy in much the same way we fail to recognize the value of Black life.

We see ghettos and crime and absent parents where we should see communities actively struggling against mental health crises and premeditated economic exploitation. And when we see police cars being smashed and corporate property being destroyed, we should see reasonable responses to generations of extreme state violence, and logical decisions about what kind of actions yield the desired political results.

I’m overwhelmed by the pervasive slandering of protesters in Baltimore this weekend for not remaining peaceful. The bad-apple rhetoric would have us believe that most Baltimore protesters are demonstrating the right way—as is their constitutional right—and only a few are disrupting the peace, giving the movement a bad name.

This spin should be disregarded, first because of the virtual media blackout of any of the action happening on the ground, particularly over the weekend. Equally, it makes no sense to cite the Constitution in any demonstration for Black civil rights (that document was not written about us, remember?), but certainly not one organized specifically to call attention to the fact that the state breaks its own laws with regard to the oppressed on a nearly constant basis.


SALON.COM
http://www.salon.com/2015/04/2....._political_strategy/


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