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Libertarian4life
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Bernie....that doesn't make sense,,,,no matter what a person still only gets back what they put in.....

you can't make it more expensive for someone else because that is NOT equal under the government....

the government likes to spend a lot of time differentiating between people as if it is the authority on rating human value....IT'S NOT!

it's just a system that people have access to and get services from(sometimes too invasive)....but it must be applied equally regardless
of some obscure 'equality' algorithm put together by the government....

the government has no right and should have no power to say one person 'deserves' more service than another....it is NOT god


I agree that all persons should be treated equally.

Social security tax should be taken out of all paychecks without an income limit, whereby the rich get a free ride.

The same should be applied to all sales taxes as well.

Everyone, even businesses, should be paying sales taxes.

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I agree that all persons should be treated equally.

Social security tax should be taken out of all paychecks without an income limit, whereby the rich get a free ride.

The same should be applied to all sales taxes as well.

Everyone, even businesses, should be paying sales taxes.


Are you saying businesses aren't paying sales tax...really?
I find that difficult to accept, since Businesses that purchase for resale pay/collect sales tax.
All should pay sales tax....so did you pay sales tax or all your internet purchases?
What about your illegal downloads....did you pay sales tax on them too?


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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tell me when police actions and wars were stopped by democrats and touted as 100% bad......and I don't mean to continue carrying on
little skirmishes across the globe where only 1-5 Americans and 10-20 foreigners get killed over 'something'.....

I'll give you the rest of your life to give an answer.....

because there isn't one...and as long as our ears are tickled and our beds feathered and our consciences are absolved, we actually
believe that one party is better than another, when in fact they are only there to keep us moving in basic lock step fear of true freedom
just to keep the $$ machine going.....

oh yes, the homeland issues of 'poverty' 'homelessness' 'hunger' are real.....and let's not forget about that Patriot Act at home....

it's a cult and it's stockholm syndrome.....

I'm by no means defending either party/politician.....just trying to get a larger view of our conversation


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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I guess a lot of Republicans "Can Imagine Voting For That Face"!!!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Chris Wallace to Carly Fiorina:

Your 'fetus' videos don't exist





The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Are you saying businesses aren't paying sales tax...really?
I find that difficult to accept, since Businesses that purchase for resale pay/collect sales tax.
All should pay sales tax....so did you pay sales tax or all your internet purchases?
What about your illegal downloads....did you pay sales tax on them too?


Businesses are exempt from paying sales tax on any purchased item they intend to resell or use as part of their operations or for maintenance for the business.

Businesses collect sales tax for the state on items that they sell.

They seldom pay sales tax on anything that is sold to them.

The entire stock exchange sells goods all day long and pay no sales tax.

Once again unconstitutional unequal treatment under the law for private citizens and the corporate elite.

I am amazed that you are displaying even less knowledge of standard business practices than I give you credit for.
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Businesses are exempt from paying sales tax on any purchased item they intend to resell or use as part of their operations or for maintenance for the business.

Businesses collect sales tax for the state on items that they sell.

They seldom pay sales tax on anything that is sold to them.

The entire stock exchange sells goods all day long and pay no sales tax.

Once again unconstitutional unequal treatment under the law for private citizens and the corporate elite.

I am amazed that you are displaying even less knowledge of standard business practices than I give you credit for.

I'm not amazed at your obvious lack of business knowledge.
If items are purchased by a business for "resale" then that business collects and pays sales tax at POS!
If items are purchased for manufacturing a product, they are taxed at POS of the end product!
NYSE is not selling any tangible goods, so your comment is ridiculous. But if you want to use
that example, then taxes (not sales tax) are paid on the profits by the owner of the stocks purchased.
For someone that practices selective avoidance, I find it ridiculous you profess
"all" should pay sales tax....Losertarian position...DO AS I SAY NOT AS I DO!!!



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Businesses are exempt from paying sales tax on any purchased item they intend to resell or use as part of their operations or for maintenance for the business.

Businesses collect sales tax for the state on items that they sell.

They seldom pay sales tax on anything that is sold to them.

The entire stock exchange sells goods all day long and pay no sales tax.

Once again unconstitutional unequal treatment under the law for private citizens and the corporate elite.

I am amazed that you are displaying even less knowledge of standard business practices than I give you credit for.


PAYING sales tax and COLLECTING sales tax are 2 different issues.

when a business 'sells' a taxable product'....the business COLLECTS the sales tax from the purchaser and sends it to the state.

so a business does NOT actually pay sales tax on what they sell/retail.

they just collect it.





When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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I'm not amazed at your obvious lack of business knowledge.
If items are purchased by a business for "resale" then that business collects and pays sales tax at POS!

100% false. The business pays absolutely no sales tax at the point of sale. They charge sales tax and forward ONLY the purchaser's money to the tax man.
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If items are purchased for manufacturing a product, they are taxed at POS of the end product!

Correct the purchaser is taxed at the point of sale and the corporation again pays not one cent.
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NYSE is not selling any tangible goods, so your comment is ridiculous.

Stocks are goods.

They are partial ownership purchases of real life brick and mortar businesses, including buildings, vehicles, equipment etc.

You just choose to support corporate elitism, whereby the government licenses corporations to be exempt from all the laws that regular citizens are forced to follow.
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But if you want to use
that example, then taxes (not sales tax) are paid on the profits by the owner of the stocks purchased.


Correct, again the corporations pay absolutely no taxes on the sale, or on the money they received for the transaction.(their earnings)

They pay income taxes only on profit.

Non-corporations pay income taxes on all earnings.

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For someone that practices selective avoidance, I find it ridiculous you profess
"all" should pay sales tax....Losertarian position...DO AS I SAY NOT AS I DO!!!


Nice try twister. I profess that all should be treated equally under the law.

You support government licenses sold to corporations to give them preferential monetary and legal treatment under the law.

You support corporate elitism and a two class society, whereby people that don't pay the government for preferential treatment under the law are forced to pay taxes and follow laws that the corporate elite don't have to pay or follow.

And just for frosting on the cake, less than 40% of all US businesses pay any income tax at all.

And with the recent changes where you can send the profits overseas, many more businesses will be paying absolutely no income taxes.

For the retarded ones among us equal treatment under the law means that all laws must be followed by everyone, not just those who didn't purchase a free pass from the government.

Rights and equal treatment under the law, being sold by the government, is as far from Constitutional as you can get.

You support trampling the Constitution with every word that you type.



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...Losertarian position...DO AS I SAY NOT AS I DO!!!



Equal treatment for all is not a losertarian idea.

Harassing those who believe in freedom, equality and fairness is.

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PAYING sales tax and COLLECTING sales tax are 2 different issues.

when a business 'sells' a taxable product'....the business COLLECTS the sales tax from the purchaser and sends it to the state.

so a business does NOT actually pay sales tax on what they sell/retail.

they just collect it.


Businesses get(purchase) a sales tax ID number that exempts them from paying sales taxes.

Joey is obfuscating the truth with his taunting and fact twisting.

The single issue fact remains.

People are not treated equally under the laws of taxation and criminal actions.

I guess his argument must be that the government is not obligated to treat people and corporations as equals because corporations aren't people.

My argument is that corporations are treated preferentially to people in most matters.

And corporations are people.

People who pay the government to not follow the rules that apply to all of the Constitutionally protected people.
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Losertarian shows exactly why he is a LOSERTARIAN....continues to profess equality, but practices selective
compliance according to his own benefit. It must be very frustrating to be you going through life and failing
to understand basics. Simple words escape you...so let me try to make it simpler if that is possible...
A business "collects" taxes at POS and "pays" those taxes collected at POS to the Government.
If you want to play word games to benefit your ignorance of business, then please feel free.


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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Quoted from joebxr
Losertarian shows exactly why he is a LOSERTARIAN....continues to profess equality, but practices selective
compliance according to his own benefit. It must be very frustrating to be you going through life and failing
to understand basics. Simple words escape you...so let me try to make it simpler if that is possible...
A business "collects" taxes at POS and "pays" those taxes collected at POS to the Government.
If you want to play word games to benefit your ignorance of business, then please feel free.


Thank you for admitting the business pays no sales tax on anything that they purchase.

But they willingly take the tax dollars from everyone else for the government.

That is not equal treatment under the law.

Thanks for admitting that the law doesn't apply to the elite.

And as always you attempt further obfuscation and distraction from your failed attempt of making selective taxation sound equal treatment for all people.

Stop hating the Constitution and it's intent.

You work hard to justify unequal treatment under the law.

That makes you, once again, the true losertarian that loves trampling the Constitution.

You just keep bashing me for wanting fairness and equality, because that's what you losertarians do.

Jobxr, defender of elitism, trampler of the Constitution.




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....continues to profess equality, but practices selective
compliance according to his own benefit.


Unlike you, I recognize unconstitutional laws and make my own decision whether to follow it or not.

So, thank you for admitting that I have Constitution based behavior and you think that it is a bad thing.

So keep calling me names, because that's all you know.

I understand that you are handicapped from the damage to your mind from taking part in the massacre of a half a million Vietnamese civilians.

To defend freedom and the Constitution, both of which you despise every day here with every hate filled word you post ridiculing believers in freedom and equality.

Bash on, hater.

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