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Quoted from Box A Rox


Stability in the middle east, or most anywhere else in the world is in everyone's interest.  Iraq,or Syria
or Israel or N Korea or Lebanon or Somalia...  More effort in diplomacy would result in less effort
by our military.
  


If that's the case, where is China, Russia, and India in this fight to "stabalize" the Middle East?

The U.S. needed to stabalize southeast Asia 50 years ago too.  Mission Accomplished...The USG got their asses handed to them, and now Vietnam is united and stable.  Now Americans are eating seafood from Vietnam.  Hmmmm...Trading with your enemy brings peace - go figure.


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Pro-war.....anti-war has been around for decades.

just look at Vietnam.

altho history was kinder to the anti-war folks back then....they weren't labeled terrorists!!



Before or after Kent State?
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Spit on the bastards....shameful devils!!!!!!  


Holy crap dude, I'm making 'Baby Killer' posters as we speak!





"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for
GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'

Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'

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Holy crap dude, I'm making 'Baby Killer' posters as we speak!



Loser probably already has them...maybe he'll sell them to you.
But be careful of the DNA all over them!!!!!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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US military only kills "bad guys"...Never innocent women and children.  The US military is a "force for good".  It says it right in the commercial.


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Loser probably already has them...maybe he'll sell them to you.
But be careful of the DNA all over them!!!!!


The few, the proud, the baby killing homicidal maniacs.

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The few, the proud, the baby killing homicidal maniacs.



The one, the only (thank God), dimwit self-centered Loser4Life!!!!
Poster child for birth control!
Spitting image of a complete and useless DUHmmmmmmmmy!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
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The few, the proud, the baby killing homicidal maniacs.



You're talking about ISIS, right?

You do know they took the Christian children in Mosul, cut their heads off, stuck them on sticks, and placed said sticks (with the kids heads on them) in the park.

But please, tell me more of how terrible we are.





"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for
GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'

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You're talking about ISIS, right?

You do know they took the Christian children in Mosul, cut their heads off, stuck them on sticks, and placed said sticks (with the kids heads on them) in the park.

But please, tell me more of how terrible we are.



The USG drops depleted uranium all over their land and kills or mutates hundreds if not thousands of children.  But...Much more civilized...Not barbaric at all.  The kids deserve these physical deformations, because they support ISIS.

You know the ole saying - one murder is a tragedy, thousands are a statistic.  Nobody feels sympathy toward statistics.


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The USG drops depleted uranium all over their land and kills or mutates hundreds if not thousands of children.  But...Much more civilized...Not barbaric at all.  The kids deserve these physical deformations, because they support ISIS.

You know the ole saying - one murder is a tragedy, thousands are a statistic.  Nobody feels sympathy toward statistics.


I find it funny that the only information on this is coming from far-leftist sites like 'World Socialist Web', 'Democracy Now', 'Truth Out', and even 'Huff Po'......So you already know that 95% of it is over blown and exaggerated along with the 99% of it being bullshit.

Even the WHO doesn't think this is a big issue and that's saying something right there.

But for the sake of your answer, let's assume that this is true.....Are you trying to say that when A-10 planes and Bradley IFV fired their weapons, it was their intention to purposely poison the civilian population, because they are Islamic, with very low grade radioactive ammunition for the expressed result of causing genocide?

This has to be your stupidest moment yet as this goes well beyond 'Full Retard' status.











"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for
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You're talking about ISIS, right?

You do know they took the Christian children in Mosul, cut their heads off, stuck them on sticks, and placed said sticks (with the kids heads on them) in the park.

But please, tell me more of how terrible we are.




Terrorism doesn't justify terrorism.

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You do know they took the Christian children in Mosul, cut their heads off, stuck them on sticks, and placed said sticks (with the kids heads on them) in the park.



Do you have even a shred of proof of who did what?

Or are you just accepting what they feed you?

Drones are just as much terrorism as any ISIS video.





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But for the sake of your answer, let's assume that this is true.....Are you trying to say that when A-10 planes and Bradley IFV fired their weapons, it was their intention to purposely poison the civilian population, because they are Islamic, with very low grade radioactive ammunition for the expressed result of causing genocide?




The old we didn't do it on purpose defense.

We were justified because we all watched on tv where they said weapons of mass destruction.

Same old, same old.

Lies, distortions, and self justification for "good" US atrocities, as opposed to anti-US bad atrocities.

Every military action the US takes part in the US kills more innocent civilians than soldiers.

And al;l you flag waving koolaid drinking homicidal supporters keep drinking it up.

Oh, please keep me safe, lord Obama, by killing and terrorizing the world.

You are in more danger than ever thanks to our military aggression(terrorism) and slaughter of the innocent around the world.







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I find it funny that the only information on this is coming from far-leftist sites like 'World Socialist Web', 'Democracy Now', 'Truth Out', and even 'Huff Po'......So you already know that 95% of it is over blown and exaggerated along with the 99% of it being bullshit.

Even the WHO doesn't think this is a big issue and that's saying something right there.

But for the sake of your answer, let's assume that this is true.....Are you trying to say that when A-10 planes and Bradley IFV fired their weapons, it was their intention to purposely poison the civilian population, because they are Islamic, with very low grade radioactive ammunition for the expressed result of causing genocide?

This has to be your stupidest moment yet as this goes well beyond 'Full Retard' status.



Alright ya got me...how bout this...Do the US led sanctions on Iraq that resulted in the death off approximately 500k civilians because they could not get access to medicine to treat curable disease count as a genocide?  Or is that just a little tough love from the great US of A?  

I understand a child's head on a spike is a horrific atrocity.  Just wondering how you feel about tens of thousands of babies dying of infection that could have been easily cured if the USG didn't prevent Iraq from receiving antibiotics.  Madeline Albright thought it was worth the sacrifice of 500k innocent civilians - what say you?


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I find it funny that the only information on this is coming from far-leftist sites like 'World Socialist Web', 'Democracy Now', 'Truth Out', and even 'Huff Po'......So you already know that 95% of it is over blown and exaggerated along with the 99% of it being bullshit.

But for the sake of your answer, let's assume that this is true.....Are you trying to say that when A-10 planes and Bradley IFV fired their weapons, it was their intention to purposely poison the civilian population, because they are Islamic, with very low grade radioactive ammunition for the expressed result of causing genocide?

This has to be your stupidest moment yet as this goes well beyond 'Full Retard' status.



Crazy left wing media source that broke the NSA spy programs also reports on "low grade" radioactive munitions fired at civilian areas.
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US fired depleted uranium at civilian areas in 2003 Iraq war, report finds

theguardian.com, Thursday 19 June 2014 11.45 EDT     


US forces fired depleted uranium (DU) weapons at civilian areas and troops in Iraq in breach of official advice meant to prevent unnecessary suffering in conflicts, a report has found.

Coordinates revealing where US jets and tanks fired nearly 10,000 DU rounds in Iraq during the war in 2003 have been obtained by the Dutch peace group Pax. This is the first time that any US DU firing coordinates have been released, despite previous requests by the United Nations Environment Programme and the Iraqi government.

According to PAX's report, which is due to be published this week, the data shows that many of the DU rounds were fired in or near populated areas of Iraq, including As Samawah, Nasiriyah and Basrah. At least 1,500 rounds were also aimed at troops, the group says.

This conflicts with legal advice from the US Air Force in 1975 suggesting that DU weapons should only be used against hard targets like tanks and armoured vehicles, the report says. This advice, designed to comply with international law by minimising deaths and injuries to urban populations and troops, was largely ignored by US forces, it argues.

A six-page memo by Major James Miles and Will Carroll from the international law division of USAF's Office of the Judge Advocate General concluded in March 1975 that DU weapons were legal. But it recommended imposing restrictions on how they were used.

"Use of this munition solely against personnel is prohibited if alternative weapons are available," the memo stated. This was for legal reasons "related to the prohibitions against unnecessary suffering and poison".

The memo also pointed out that DU weapons were "incendiary" and could have indiscriminate impacts in urban areas. "They may cause fires which spread thereby causing potential risks of disproportionate injury to civilians or damage to civilian objects," it said. "Precautions to avoid or minimise such risks shall be taken in the use of this weapon or alternate available weapons should be used."

PAX estimates that there are more than 300 sites in Iraq contaminated by DU, which will cost at least $30m to clean up. DU is a chemically toxic and radioactive heavy metal attractive to weapons designers because it is extremely hard and can pierce armour.

The author of the PAX report, Wim Zwijnenburg, said the US Air Force knew the harm that could be done by DU weapons and should not have used them in populated areas. "The use of DU against these targets questions the adherence of coalition forces to their own principles and guidelines," he argued. "They should be held accountable for the consequences."

US forces gave the GPS coordinates of DU rounds, along with a list of targets and the numbers fired, to the Dutch Ministry of Defence, which was concerned about areas in which its troops were stationed last year.

The Dutch MoD then released the data to PAX in response to a request under freedom of information law. The release of the information was a "useful first step towards greater transparency", said PAX, but the firing coordinates for most DU rounds remain unknown.

More than 300,000 DU rounds are estimated to have been fired during the 2003 Iraq war, the vast majority by US forces. A small fraction were from UK tanks, the coordinates for which were provided to the UN Environment Programme. A further 782,414 DU rounds are believed to have been fired during the earlier conflict in 1991, mostly by US forces.

The Democratic congressman, Jim McDermott, is now urging the US Department of Defence to publish all its DU firing coordinates. "These weapons have had terrible health ramifications for Iraqi civilians," he said. "The least the US could do is provide the specific targeting data so the Iraqi government can begin the complex clean-up process."

The US Department of Defence did not respond to a request to comment. One military source was "amazed" that the Dutch government had released sensitive targeting data.





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