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Libertarian4life
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Advocating that ALL human life is valuable and wanting to protect ALL human life from the moment of conception to the moment of natural death (consistent life ethic) is neither hate-filled nor intolerant.

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Bzzzzt! Wrong.

It is totally intolerant of other people's beliefs.

You don't get to legislate beliefs.

Over 56 million abortions were performed.

That means that more than twice as many people that voted for the President took part in those abortions.

You seem to believe that only the government can save the lives of the aborted ones.

Just go save one yourself, how hard is that.

Get your church to sponsor you and find people that might be interested in alternatives to whatever is causing them to want an abortion.

Oh lord Obama, hear my prayers and pass a new law forcing my opinions on everyone.

Why the hell do you have to drag the federal government into it?

Taking lives is one of their favorite problem solving tools.

You should actually also be trying to stop them from taking lives around the world.

Seriously, come up with a plan of things to offer in place of abortions, then go and talk with someone at one of the local Planned Parenthoods and offer to speak with people that might be interested in alternatives.

If it works, find others and get them to do the same.









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Bzzzzt! Wrong.

It is totally intolerant of other people's beliefs.

You don't get to legislate beliefs.

Over 56 million abortions were performed.

That means that more than twice as many people that voted for the President took part in those abortions.

You seem to believe that only the government can save the lives of the aborted ones.

Just go save one yourself, how hard is that.

Get your church to sponsor you and find people that might be interested in alternatives to whatever is causing them to want an abortion.

Oh lord Obama, hear my prayers and pass a new law forcing my opinions on everyone.

Why the hell do you have to drag the federal government into it?

Taking lives is one of their favorite problem solving tools.

You should actually also be trying to stop them from taking lives around the world.

Seriously, come up with a plan of things to offer in place of abortions, then go and talk with someone at one of the local Planned Parenthoods and offer to speak with people that might be interested in alternatives.

If it works, find others and get them to do the same.


Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You're wrong.

To hold a different belief is protected by the U.S. Constitution ---which maybe you should read and learn about.   Holding a different belief does not make someone intolerant.  I have not tried to muzzle you from speaking your belief -- but you certainly want to muzzle me and the millions of others who share my Pro-Life vies ... so YOU are the one who is being intolerant.
I don't believe that ONLY  the government can save the lives of the aborted ones.  Actually, your argument doesn't make any sense --- based on your argument than the government shouldn't pass any laws to criminalize murder or behavior that injures others.
As for the Church, we do work to counsel women and families and help them to choose life.

We will continue to expose pro-death politicians and oppose pro-death legislation at the federal and the state level.  It is our Constitutional right to speak out, advocate for our position, support/vote for the candidates that share our views and expose/vote against candidates who push the Pro-Death Agenda,

You may not like that.  That is too bad -- you need to get over it and get used to it.   That is what Liberty is about -- expressing views and being able to support publicly the positions that one chooses and oppose publicly the positions that one chooses.

This issue is most important because allowing ALL human life to be valued and protected by Civil and Constitutional Law is quite literally a matter of life or death.  It is quite literally fighting for the most important Civil and Constitutional Right -- the Right to Life -- without the Right to Life the other rights are meaningless.


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Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You're wrong.

To hold a different belief is protected by the U.S. Constitution ---which maybe you should read and learn about.   Holding a different belief does not make someone intolerant.  I have not tried to muzzle you from speaking your belief -- but you certainly want to muzzle me and the millions of others who share my Pro-Life vies ... so YOU are the one who is being intolerant.



You happen to be the one trying to pass laws forcing your beliefs on others.

I believe you are entitled to believe anything you want.

I am not the one seeking political power over others to comply with your beliefs.

Nice try, claiming that believing in freedom to make your own personal decisions is intolerance.

You are the intolerant one seeking to make your beliefs mandatory for all.

You have no respect for anything except for your own viewpoint.

I fully support all viewpoints and all people's rights to make their own choices.

You want the government to pass laws to take away existing rights to make choices for their own families.

Would Jesus petition the government to force his beliefs on all persons?

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DVOR....if you don't believe in abortion and you don't want an abortion, no one is making you get an abortion...it's your choice/responsibility

but you can't legislate other people's choice away

however, I will say the reward system is coming through healthcare.....every time you choose to do something 'healthy' you get a reward
if you choose something 'unhealthy' you get penalized.....

same with car insurance,,,,we begged insurance companies to reward us like rats in a cage and here we go....having an abortion is a
choice but it doesn't come with a reward....how 'healthy' are you DVOR? I don't want to pay for your 'unhealthy' choices.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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DVOR....if you don't believe in abortion and you don't want an abortion, no one is making you get an abortion...it's your choice/responsibility

but you can't legislate other people's choice away

however, I will say the reward system is coming through healthcare.....every time you choose to do something 'healthy' you get a reward
if you choose something 'unhealthy' you get penalized.....

same with car insurance,,,,we begged insurance companies to reward us like rats in a cage and here we go....having an abortion is a
choice but it doesn't come with a reward....how 'healthy' are you DVOR? I don't want to pay for your 'unhealthy' choices.....


You are either ignorant or deluded.

Abortion is NOT the same as car insurance.

I suppose folks like you who support abortion on demand would have gone around NAZI Germany or Stalinist Russia saying "if you don't believe in killing Jews and other people who you think are less than human, than you don't have to."  

Abortion is the killing of an innocent human life.  It is NOT a choice.


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You are either ignorant or deluded.

Abortion is NOT the same as car insurance.

I suppose folks like you who support abortion on demand would have gone around NAZI Germany or Stalinist Russia saying "if you don't believe in killing Jews and other people who you think are less than human, than you don't have to."  

Abortion is the killing of an innocent human life.  It is NOT a choice.


says who?


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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You are either ignorant or deluded.


Abortion is the killing of an innocent human life.  It is NOT a choice.


So are drone attacks.

All killings without a trial are innocent lives.

But you don't speak out for those innocent lives.



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Woolf should go back to Brooklyn, pay the back taxes that he owes and pay his workers like any decent employer would do.  Let an upstater represent upstate New York in Congress.  Vote for Stefanik!


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