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Henry
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In case you haven't noticed, the US negotiates with Japan, Gerrmany, Korea, China, Iran, Iraq,
Vietnam, etc etc etc.


So the Taliban is the recognized government of Afghanistan today, hmmm for years they said they were a group of terrorist clans that made up the region.


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No conspiracy box the left is even blasting him over how he did this, only the die hard Obama cult are backing him. The men he released are already making statements that they're preparing to go back to war against us.


If Bergdahl is healthy enough, and there are no charges against him, won't he be able to go back to war
against the Taliban???


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Left over stinger missiles were reportedly used against our own troops, we basically gave them the weapons to kill us.


Huh! Weapons?  Ask your brothers at the NRA.  That's their dept.


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In case you haven't noticed, the US negotiates with Japan, Gerrmany, Korea, China, Iran, Iraq,
Vietnam, etc etc etc.


Yes, peace negotiations at the end of the war.  And they negotiated with the recognized post war governments.  Is the Taliban the recognized post Afghan war government?  What was the terms of the Taliban surrender?


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Yes, peace negotiations at the end of the war.  And they negotiated with the recognized post war governments.  Is the Taliban the recognized post Afghan war government?  What was the terms of the Taliban surrender?


Every time cissy posts about "war", a subject he knows nothing about, he gets it wrong.



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Every time cissy posts about "war", a subject he knows nothing about, he gets it wrong.



Really? What part? Cissy's question is valid, he just might have asked it not you your liking....And at least with Cissy, I don't have to fact check his posts for edits and outright lying.

You know, like you do.

So I'll rephrase his question.

As you being an 'expert' on war. Is the Taliban now recognized, by the U.S, as a legitimate government entity?  





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Yeah, you never hear who is supplying the weapons to the Afghani resistance for the past 13 years.  The USG spent trillions if dollars to fight this war, seeing how Afghanistan doesn't manufacture weapons, who is manufacturing and supplying weapons to the Taliban for 13 years?  How does a 3rd world worn torn country afford it?


The US does not manufacture Kalashnikov's, RPK's, RPD's, RPG-7V's, or any of the other major small arms that are used against US troops.
Need to look to Egypt, Syria, China, Russia, Iran, and parts of former Czech Republic....especially Iran.
In North West Pakistan/Afghanistan there is a home grown arms industry that can knock of a copy of any weapon ever made.
There was a large amount of AK47's left behind after the soviet invasion.
There is also a huge black market, so weapons are cheap to pick up from the arms traders.

As for funding, here's interesting article:
http://www.ibtimes.com/taliban-have-run-out-money-just-us-troops-prepare-leave-afghanistan-1552964


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The US does not manufacture Kalashnikov's, RPK's, RPD's, RPG-7V's, or any of the other major small arms that are used against US troops.
Need to look to Egypt, Syria, China, Russia, Iran, and parts of former Czech Republic....especially Iran.
In North West Pakistan/Afghanistan there is a home grown arms industry that can knock of a copy of any weapon ever made.
There was a large amount of AK47's left behind after the soviet invasion.
There is also a huge black market, so weapons are cheap to pick up from the arms traders.

As for funding, here's interesting article:
http://www.ibtimes.com/taliban-have-run-out-money-just-us-troops-prepare-leave-afghanistan-1552964


I'm sure the Iraqi people are going "Thanks Obama!"


That story looks more like a propaganda piece than one of fact, as recent events have shown us. The real laughable part of the story is the end...

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The Afghan war has appeared to divide the Taliban, and without any clear leadership after Osama Bin Laden's death, and without its former level of financial backing, the Taliban’s days look numbered.


OBL was NEVER part of the Taliban, he was an ally. Mullah Omar is and has been the leader of the Taliban since '96(and now has five top cabinet members back).

And since you brought it up joe, you WILL find this story interesting because a) It backs up your post and b) It's going to show what's now going on in Iraq (if you can even call it a country now) is going to happen in Afghanistan.

Check this out....

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/mosul.....terror-force-1452190

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The Islamic State of Iraq and al-Shams (Isis) has become the richest terror group ever after looting 500 billion Iraqi dinars - the equivalent of $429m (£256m) - from Mosul's central bank, according to the regional governor.

Nineveh governor Atheel al-Nujaifi confirmed Kurdish televison reports that Isis militants had stolen millions from numerous banks across Mosul. A large quantity of gold bullion is also believed to have been stolen.

Following the siege of the country's second city, the bounty collected by the group has left it richer than al-Qaeda itself and as wealthy as small nations such as Tonga, Kiribati, the Marshall Islands and the Falkland Islands.
  

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They also seized considerable amounts of US-supplied military hardware. Photos have already emerged of Isis parading captured Humvees in neighbouring Syria where they are also waging war against President Bashar al-Assad's regime.








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In case you haven't noticed, the US negotiates with Japan, Gerrmany, Korea, China, Iran, Iraq,
Vietnam, etc etc etc.
Kind of like the donors who donate $$$ to both parties.   Covers their bases regardless who gets elected.

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Left over stinger missiles were reportedly used against our own troops, we basically gave them the weapons to kill us.
The Russians left many weapons behind as well when they realized it was an unwinable war there,hence their fleeing.   Like a Nam for them too.

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Listening to that attorney from DoD testify yesterday was quite interesting.  Typical - squirrelly lawyer - never actually giving a straight answer. But, it did come out that what the DoD had been telling Congressional leaders for 2 years was NOT the same story that they have been telling in the past 2 weeks.  The story regarding the negotiations with the Taliban and other issues related to the Bergdahl "matter."

I was not impressed with the Secretary of Defense's testimony.  Too scripted and he just completely evaded the questions that he didn't want to answer or wasn't "scripted" to answer.


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  ...just completely evaded the questions that he didn't want to answer or wasn't "scripted" to answer.


I'm sure you can associate with that!!!!


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GO ARMY!!!!!
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According to a new report from The Washington Post, Army Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl, the American prisoner of war rescued in an exchange in which the United States agreed to release five members of the Taliban,
was discharged from the Coast Guard in 2006 for psychological reasons and many of his friends were concerned for his emotional well-being around that time.

The report cites several items provided to the paper by a friend of Bergdahl’s, Kim Harrison, who was designated to receive his belongings after he vanished.

Among those items is a series of entries, including a journal, essays, stories, and emails that were written over the course of the year before his disappearance and portray Bergdahl as “a deeply complicated and fragile young man.”

Harrison and others close to Bergdahl said his writing and the events surrounding the Coast Guard discharge raise questions about his mental fitness for military service and how he was accepted into the Army in 2008. Typically, a discharge for psychological reasons would disqualify a potential recruit.

A senior Army official, speaking on condition of anonymity, confirmed that the Army was aware of a prior "administrative discharge" when Bergdahl enlisted. A separate Army official, also speaking on condition of anonymity, said that Bergdahl would have required a waiver to enlist under such circumstances. The official could not immediately confirm that Bergdahl received one.

Whatever the exact circumstances of Bergdahl's enlistment, the Coast Guard discharge came as no surprise to Harrison and other friends of Bergdahl's who grew up with him in Ketchum, Idaho, who said he was a poor fit for military service.

Bergdahl allegedly left his post in Afghanistan in June 2009, and Harrison claims to have obtained the items shortly thereafter, adding that they have already been reviewed by US officials.

The report added that most of the writing describes Bergdahl’s inner thoughts and does not reference the Taliban or the war in Afghanistan.
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After listening to the SoD's testimony two more times, I am changing my opinion from "unimpressed" to convinced that he and Obama intentionally broke the law by not informing Congressional leaders.  And, they are only trying to hide behind the cloak of bringing home an American soldier to save their asses from the legal consequences.
Certainly, it our nation has always been committed to bringing home every American military person. However,we have never done that by handing out top level enemy leaders especially when the war is still going on and  the terrorist threat is worsening.  Hagel and Obama pretty much put a higher price tag on every American overseas (military, diplomatic, etc.) and told those who wish American harm that we will "give you whatever you want" in exchange for Americans held hostage.


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“My initial reaction was shock. I was shocked that our president would release five of the most high-risk prisoners being held in Guantanamo in exchange for one American,” she told FoxNews.com. “As a whole, my family was extremely upset and saddened that our government would do something like this, especially in light of the fact that it seems that people in the intelligence community are fairly united in their belief that these terrorists are likely to seek to further harm Americans in the future.”

She has followed the story closely, but still cannot fathom how the country her father loved and fought for could allow such a dangerous man to go free.

It does become harder and harder to have faith in an administration that is plagued with scandal after scandal,” she said. “I do not believe that it was the right move by the administration.”

Mike Spann died at the Qala-i-Jangi compound near Mazari Sharit in northern Afghanistan, where he was interrogating detainees captured during the early weeks of the war. Fazl, according to his Guantanamo case file, had been deputy defense minister and commander of all Taliban troops in the northern Afghanistan region at the time of the September 11 attacks. Before that, he was accused by human rights organizations of personally supervising the murders of thousands of Shiite and Tajik Sunni Muslims.

Fazl was the commander of the Taliban in the north at the time of the uprising and the prisoners took orders from him. Although he was not detained at the facility until days after the uprising, he is believed to have been in direct contact with the prisoners.


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