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I sure do.  

Hey, democracy is a fraud(especially national elections in a nation of 300 million).  I can't help that you truly believe your vote means something and gives you some sense of control.  

Box, 2016 is right around the corner.  Get ready for the most important election in American history(that the mantra every presidential election).  Maybe a hope-ier and change-ier candidate will run for you to latch on to.


Lets see... If I voted for the Mitt, we wouldn't have ObamaCare.  Yes voting for Obama does give me
some sense of control.  I voted for Change and it was a positive change.  
You on the other hand... sat on your vote... which is just as well.  We wouldn't be able to stand the
whining and crying when your candidate lost.


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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The WaPo article is about McCain's flip flopping on the Bergdahl prisoner swap.  First he was for it
then he was against it... you know GOP Politics demand he's against anything that may be construed
as a plus for Obama.


Obama's decision stands alone.  Nobody else from congress influenced his decision.  Own up to it box.  McCain can flip flop all he wants, he didn't have a say in the decision.  What was McCain's vote?


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Lets see... If I voted for the Mitt, we wouldn't have ObamaCare.  Yes voting for Obama does give me
some sense of control.  I voted for Change and it was a positive change.  
You on the other hand... sat on your vote... which is just as well.  We wouldn't be able to stand the
whining and crying when your candidate lost.


You would have had Romneycare.(why do I doubt you are signed up for Obamacare?)

I don't whine and cry, I LAUGH.


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Obama's decision stands alone.  Nobody else from congress influenced his decision.  Own up to it box.  McCain can flip flop all he wants, he didn't have a say in the decision.  What was McCain's vote?


OK CISSY READ SLOWLY... MC Cain flipped on this issue.  First he supported it back in February,
then he opposed it once he was released.  

Got it???  


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You would have had Romneycare.(why do I doubt you are signed up for Obamacare?)

I don't whine and cry, I LAUGH.

Romney care was in Massachusetts.  The Mitt had no plans to push that type or any type of
universal health coverage in the USA.  His push would have followed the GOP talking points...
Tort reform... insurance across state lines... continued poor quality health care.


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Romney care was in Massachusetts.  The Mitt had no plans to push that type or any type of
universal health coverage in the USA.  His push would have followed the GOP talking points...
Tort reform... insurance across state lines... continued poor quality health care.


Are you on the Obamacare exchange?


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On Wednesday, Fox News contributor Charles Krauthammer expressed his support for the
Obama administration's decision to negotiate Bowe Bergdahl's freedom.

Speaking on "Special Report," Krauthammer told Fox News host Bret Baier that Bergdahl should
face an investigation over allegations that the soldier left his post in Afghanistan on the
night he went missing. However, he insisted that the White House did the right thing by bringing him home first.

"Look, had the choice been mine, I would have made that same choice," Krauthammer said.
"It's a difficult decision and I would not attack those who would have done otherwise."--

Krauthammer said that the United States, along with other Western countries, "always comes
out on the short end" in hostage swaps. He included Israel in this, pointing to when the
country gave up 1,000 Palestinian prisoners in return for one sergeant.

"The reason we put a value on the individual human life the way that the ones at the other
end of the table don't," Krauthammer said. "That's why we always end up with unequal swaps."
(FoxSnooze)


Talk about cherry picking!

Wow! You edited more out of that than NBC did with the Zimmerman 911 call.

I don't know who you think you're trying to fool, but if I had my way I'd have everyone to neg rep you to show what a disgrace you are.

Now lets look at what he really said....

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Free him, then try him

By Charles Krauthammer,   Published: June 5


What is it with Susan Rice and the Sunday morning talk shows? This time she said Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl had served in Afghanistan “with honor and distinction” — the biggest whopper since she insisted the Benghazi attack was caused by a video.

There is strong eyewitness evidence that Bergdahl deserted his unit and that the search for him endangered his fellow soldiers. If he had served with honor and distinction, there would be no national uproar over his ransom and some of the widely aired objections to the deal would be as muted as they are flimsy. For example:


1. America doesn’t negotiate with terrorists.


Nonsense. Of course we do. Everyone does, while pretending not to. The Israelis, by necessity the toughest of all anti-terror fighters, in 2011 gave up 1,027 prisoners, some with blood on their hands, for one captured staff sergeant.


2. The administration did not give Congress 30-day notice as required by law.


Of all the jurisdictional disputes between president and Congress, the president stands on the firmest ground as commander in chief. And commanders have the power to negotiate prisoner exchanges.

Moreover, from where did this sudden assertion of congressional prerogative spring? After five years of supine acquiescence to President Obama’s multiple usurpations, Congress suddenly becomes exercised over a war power — where its claim is weakest. Congress does nothing in the face of 23 executive alterations of the president’s own Affordable Care Act. It does nothing when Obama essentially enacts by executive order the Dream Act, which Congress had refused to enact. It does nothing when the Justice Department unilaterally rewrites drug laws. And now it rises indignantly on its hind legs because it didn’t get 30 days’ notice of a prisoner swap?


3. The Taliban release endangers national security.


Indeed it does. The five released detainees are unrepentant, militant and dangerous. They’re likely to go back into the field and resume their war against local and foreign infidels, especially us.

The administration pretense that we and the Qataris will monitor them is a joke. They can start planning against us tonight. And if they decide to leave Qatar tomorrow, who’s going to stop them?

The administration might have tried honesty here and said: Yes, we gave away five important combatants. But that’s what you do to redeem hostages. In such exchanges, the West always gives more than it gets for the simple reason that we value individual human life more than do the barbarians with whom we deal.

No shame here, merely a lamentable reality. So why does the Bergdahl deal rankle? Because of how he became captive in the first place. That’s the real issue. He appears to have deserted, perhaps even defected.

The distinction is important. If he’s a defector — joined the enemy to fight against his country — then he deserves no freeing. Indeed, he deserves killing, the way we kill other enemies in the field, the way we killed Anwar al-Awlaki, an American who had openly joined al-Qaeda. A U.S. passport does not entitle a traitor to any special protection. (Caveat: If a POW is turned, Stockholm-syndrome-like, after falling captive, these condemnatory considerations don’t apply.)

Assume, however — and we will find out soon enough — that Bergdahl was not a defector. Simply wanted out — a deserter who walked or wandered away from his duty and his comrades for reasons as yet unknown. Do you bargain for a deserter?

Two imperatives should guide the answer. Bergdahl remains a member of the U.S. military and therefore is (a) subject to military justice and (b) subject to the soldiers’ creed that we don’t leave anyone behind.

What to do? Free him, then try him. Make the swap and then, if the evidence is as strong as it now seems, court-martial him for desertion.

The swap itself remains, nonetheless, a very close call. I would fully respect a president who rejected the deal as simply too unbalanced. What is impossible to respect is a president who makes this heart-wrenching deal and then does a victory lap in the Rose Garden and has his senior officials declare it a cause for celebration. The ever dutiful, ever clueless Susan Rice hailed it as “an extraordinary day for America.”

Good God. This is no victory. This is a defeat, a concession to a miserable reality, a dirty deal, perhaps necessary as a matter of principle but to be carried out with regret, resignation, even revulsion.

The Rose Garden stunt wasn’t a messaging failure. It’s a category error. The president seems oblivious to the gravity, indeed the very nature, of what he has just done. Which is why a stunned and troubled people are asking themselves what kind of man they have twice chosen to lead them.










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Hey, democracy is a fraud(especially national elections in a nation of 300 million).
I can't help that you truly believe your vote means something and gives you some sense of control.  




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OK CISSY READ SLOWLY... MC Cain flipped on this issue.  First he supported it back in February,
then he opposed it once he was released.  

Got it???  


Who cares.  

Let's not forget, Kerry and hil-lie-ry Clinton were for the Iraq war before they were against it.  And that was a vote.  You are talking about interviews.  I'm not defending McCain, he is a real scumbag.  But, this red herring is pretty weak, since Obama never consulted with congress as required by law.  Now the Obama propaganda team is trying to drag in McCain after the swap.  Using Pinocchio's! Lol


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YEAH!  Both parties think they can tell a person the wage they MUST work for.

NO DIFFERENCE!


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Wow!!!  Box is going red herring ballistic!


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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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I haven't been down to the Hudson River yet this year.  Are the red herring still running?  They must be, and box has a bucket full!


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If one actually digs a bit into the subject, one would see that there are differing views on whether Abu Sufian bin Qumu was involved in the Benghazi Attack and Assassinations.   That is why there MUST be a thorough investigation of the events.  Oh -- and Obama and Hillary don't want that because they would end up looking like folks who fell face first into a full septic tank.

As for the "race card" ploy pulled by Box.  That just illustrated the extremist Leftist inability to have a civil debate/discussion.  The real question for Obama and Leftists like Box to answer is:  when will they stand up and take responsibility of the failures of this administration and stop hiding behind the "race card" and/or trying to blame George W, Bush for all their problems.


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