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I've kind of given up on Cissy's little games.  But I will humor him one more time...
For the last time...
The killer is the one who kills... OK Cissy??? Ya got that??? Do I need to post it yet again???


Some tools the Killer uses are much more efficient than others.
For about 7 months while I was in a combat zone, I carried a SEMI AUTOMATIC (NOT AUTOMATIC)
assault weapon.   Just like the ones the GunHuggers covet.   It was designed for combat, not hunting
not target shooting but for combat... killing people.  We carried 20 ROUND MAGAZINES.  Not the 30 or
50 or 100 round drums now available for civilian use.

If a 20 round magazine was quite sufficient for military combat use...
why would anyone (other than mass shooters or terrorists) need a larger
capacity magazine???


So again I ask...
Why would any civilian (other than mass shooters or terrorists) need an
assault weapon and why would
they need large capacity magazines???
Anyone have an answer besides "Um... Duhhhh, Ahhh,  I want one?"



So you are fine with mass shootings with 20 victims or less?  How about 15?  Maybe 10?  Maybe it should be limited to 5.  Is 1 too many victims?  How do you get gun deaths under 1?  

Hey box, you never answered.  What can someone use to protect themselves from federal agents using snipers and assault weapons to collect on a debt and steal your property?  Are weapons of war a legitimate use to collect unpaid government debts?


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So you are fine with mass shootings with 20 victims or less?  How about 15?  Maybe 10?  Maybe it should be limited to 5.  Is 1 too many victims?  How do you get gun deaths under 1?  



See what I mean about Cissy playing silly little games?  A waste of time and effort,
but that's the best he can do.  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Hey box, you never answered.  What can someone use to protect themselves from federal agents using snipers and assault weapons to collect on a debt and steal your property?  Are weapons of war a legitimate use to collect unpaid government debts?


I haven't heard of federal agents using snipers and assault weapons to collect a debt or steal property.
Oh wait... Do you mean my right to graze my cattle on city, state, federal or even my neighbors land???


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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I haven't heard of federal agents using snipers and assault weapons to collect a debt or steal property.
Oh wait... Do you mean my right to graze my cattle on city, state, federal or even my neighbors land???


Yes, the grazing fees on federal land.


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Yes, the grazing fees on federal land.

So, did this 'grazer' pay for the right of feeding HIS cattle on OUR land???



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Is that what I'm admitting???
LMAO!  

Read the post it starts IMO... IN MY OPINION.  
I would like to consider NOT banning assault weapons... I'm open to changing my mind on
this issue, but so far I have not heard one valid reason why anyone other than police,
would have any NEED for an assault weapon.  
I keep asking and get only "ummmm cause I want one" as an answer.  

Again, I'm open to keeping assault weapons legal, and the only thing I have to base my
opinion is... 20 dead children in Sandy Hook, against ... "Cause I Want Em".


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Unless the police can be at my house the very second a criminal attempts something then why wouldn't I be armed with what gun I'm used to and trust. But you and me both know cops respond after the crime, so even with all their firepower it would do me and my family no good. Its easy to talk when you live where you do and crime is almost non-existent. So go ahead and rely on someone you don't know how far away they are to save you, my gun is a lot closer then the nearest cop, I'll rely on that.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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BLM killed some of Bundy's cattle and tried to hide the evidence by burying them, seems some were shot and others were run to death.





"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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BLM killed some of Bundy's cattle and tried to hide the evidence by burying them, seems some were shot and others were run to death.





Looks like a bunch of dead cattle to me.  I wonder how they died or what killed them.
Got a link... (I mean a real link)  


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"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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A great link Henry!
The main subject of the article is that NEITHER THE GOVT OR BUNDY has a right to kill those
cattle.  
As far as they are concerned, Bundy is even more guilty than the govt!  

Loved the story!!!  



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I asked for a link... A REAL LINK! Henry gives me Ron Paul Propaganda!  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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So, did this 'grazer' pay for the right of feeding HIS cattle on OUR land???



Whether he did or didn't. Does that justify the use of combat weapons like "assault rifles" to collect unpaid fees from citizens?  

BTW, who decides the desert tortious has more rights to the land than cattle?  And how does a fee on cattle protect the desert tortoise?

Let's hope the Census Bureau doesn't threaten people with assault rifles for not filling out the census.


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Who is the real "Bundy"???



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Only the FEDS know for sure!  
Bundy Fest 2014!


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YES!  Lets discuss the "tens of thousands" who have AR15's and never killed children.  
If they killed 'adults' does that count???

Of the 148 weapons used in mass shootings from 1982 - 2012...
More Than Half of Mass Shooters Used Assault Weapons and High-Capacity Magazines


Assault Weapons Ban of 2013
http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons-ban-summary

Consider those who have never killed with their AR15's... I did consider those who have
never killed with their AR15's... I considered it in 2010 when:
Adam Lanza was considered, cause he never shot anyone.
Eduardo Sencion was considered, cause he never shot anyone.
I could add a hundred more names who've never shot anyone... YET



no one does anything until they do....that's the point.....in America you're free and innocent until proven guilty because
the 'universe' says so....unless of course you call your maker Dr. Frankenstein Politician.....

our entire lives are based on the YET.......freedom in life isn't about Minority Report.....I'm shocked that you even
remotely think that's OK.....

So if you have google glass and sitting on a beach and decide to have google glass undress somebody lying on the
beach next to you and continue with your imagination and the Minority Report Police show up to arrest you, I would
expect no fight from you....

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What’s the Message?

The message Leary delivers in this quote is a powerful one. ”Wake up!” he seems to shout, “There’s more to life than you’ve been told.”

The quote is chilling because he’s telling us precisely what we’d sensed but feared to acknowledge — that we don’t really “fit in”, that we can never be like most people, that we’re different. This would seem to be a scary notion. However, Leary’s tone suggests that it’s quite the opposite. Society would have us believe that being atypical is cause for concern, but what if it were secretly a door to liberation?

Fitting in, being “normal”, is in fact a tasteless, bland, and ultimately empty life of conformity and timidity. Enchantment and joy are to be found in the uncommon and the unusual. There’s magic in the urge to forge one’s own path. Other individuals are waiting out there to help us, to befriend us, if we can but open ourselves to new people and experiences.

A better world exists if we can summon the audacity to rid ourselves of the instinct to mindlessly follow the dominant paradigm, the popular lifestyle, the ephemeral trends. Leary’s most central message is to be true to yourself — the deep self that most people never reveal. The one that wants freedom and love and adventure. The self in your heart; let it breathe.

Leary is saying all of this and more. I love the quote because of the ideas it expresses, but also because of something about it that cannot be put into words. It captures a certain feeling, a feeling that drives people to change their lives. I don’t think there’s a word for this feeling, but it’s a sort of hunch that rumbles from the depths of one’s being. It’s a fissure that gradually becomes a rift then an earthquake, causing the ground beneath one’s feet to tremble until it cannot be ignored. It’s a blossoming realization that must be understood by the soul before it can be understood by the mind.

Maybe you recognize the feeling to which I’m referring. Maybe you don’t. Perhaps it isn’t universal. Perhaps you won’t know it in your lifetime. I don’t know. All I can say is that something creeps up to let you know that you aren’t the person you wanted to be, that there’s more to this world than you had previously thought. Then you change, because you must. You find curiosity and passion and motivation that weren’t there before. Confidence and self-respect grow. Things begin to coalesce, to feel “right”.

To those who haven’t met this point and wish to, I can only advise you to seek. In the back of your mind, always believe that epiphanies are coming. Always focus on learning as much as possible. Think like a child. Keep both eyes and mind open, eternally. Be willing to entertain any idea. Look for teachers and signs in unlikely places. Reflect. Pay attention to your thoughts and feelings. Look yourself in the mirror and ask if you’re content with where your life is heading. Care about living in the fullest sense.

Remember that in life, it’s quite difficult to find what you’re not really looking for. So stay alert, be patient, and believe that there is more. Really believe

- See more at: http://www.refinethemind.com/timothy-leary-call-to-arms/#sthash.KMR5XgAh.dpuf


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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