Quoted from CICERO

So your belief in a theory constitutes a fact in your mind?  Sounds like a organized religion.  Belief = Faith.

There are no absolutes in either.  

Religion requires FAITH... a faith that can't be shown or seen or proven.  Faith in Magic.  

Science requires a belief, not faith.  I believe in the tested and proven Scientific method.
  I believe in the law of gravity... does that mean that
gravity doesn't exist everywhere... of course, but here on earth, it exists... it is a fact.  That fact is
independent of faith.
Science doesn't know the answer to everything.  The origins of life for example, is not a proven theory.
In general it is a sound theory, but some of the details may yet to be discovered.  

My options are to believe in (Faith) magic, or to believe in science.  As posted before...
if you needed major surgery, you could pray to a GOD for a (Magic) miracle, or you
could use SCIENCE and go to a surgeon to preform the procedure.  

My guess, you'd probably do both.  Pray to GOD while you use the best SCIENCE available.

Quoted from Box A Rox

Religion requires FAITH... a faith that can't be shown or seen or proven.  Faith in Magic.  

Science requires a belief, not faith.  I believe in the tested and proven Scientific method.

Lie.

If this was true, then you wouldn't be a climate change zealot.

Quoted from BuckStrider

Lie.

If this was true, then you wouldn't be a climate change zealot.

I follow the science, and the not just the majority, but all but a very few who have expertise in
this field agree with climate change.
The only opposition is political.

Quoted from Box A Rox

I follow the science, and the not just the majority, but all but a very few who have expertise in
this field agree with climate change.
The only opposition is political.

Climate science is absolute-kinda like gravity.  There are ZERO scientists that question the theory of man-made global warming.  If they do question it, it can only be political.

Quoted from CICERO

Climate science is absolute-kinda like gravity.  There are ZERO scientists that question the theory of man-made global warming.  If they do question it, it can only be political.

I remember the 'scientists' who sided with big tobacco... they denied that tobacco was addictive and
that it caused cancer.  As the science progressed, the FACTS were obvious, yet those scientists on
the tobacco payroll, like the climate change deniers today, still clung to their paycheck instead of the
science.

Quoted from Box A Rox

I remember the 'scientists' who sided with big tobacco... they denied that tobacco was addictive and
that it caused cancer.  As the science progressed, the FACTS were obvious, yet those scientists on
the tobacco payroll, like the climate change deniers today, still clung to their paycheck instead of the
science.

Who cares if 'scientists' sided with big tobacco?  Only idiots that worships 'scientists' would wait for scientist to tell them sucking on smoke isn't healthy.

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1faith noun \ˈfāth\
: strong belief or trust in someone or something

: belief in the existence of God : strong religious feelings or beliefs

: a system of religious beliefs

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be·lief noun \bə-ˈlēf\
: a feeling of being sure that someone or something exists or that something is true

: a feeling that something is good, right, or valuable

: a feeling of trust in the worth or ability of someone

Quoted from CICERO

Who cares if 'scientists' sided with big tobacco?  Only idiots that worships 'scientists' would wait for scientist to tell them sucking on smoke isn't healthy.

Who cares if a few "scientists" sided with politicians?  Only idiots who worship politicians would wait for scientists to tell them that climate change is real.

Quoted from Box A Rox

Who cares if a few "scientists" sided with politicians?  Only idiots who worship politicians would wait for scientists to tell them that climate change is real.

Nobody denied climate change, there is scientific record of many ice ages.  It's man-made climate change the politicians need to convince everybody as the cause.  In order to do that, they have to prove that warming and cooling cycles of the earth were all normal cycles EXCEPT for the current cycle.  

What temperature is the earth supposed to be in 2014?  If the temperature is changing, what should it be?  What is the normal rate global temperatures should rise and fall?  How is that determined?

Quoted from CICERO

Nobody denied climate change, there is scientific record of many ice ages.  It's man-made climate change the politicians need to convince everybody as the cause.  In order to do that, they have to prove that warming and cooling cycles of the earth were all normal cycles EXCEPT for the current cycle.  

What temperature is the earth supposed to be in 2014?  If the temperature is changing, what should it be?  What is the normal rate global temperatures should rise and fall?  How is that determined?

If Cissy were serious about LEARNING ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE, I'd offer some information that might
inform him.
Cissy isn't interested in learning anything, he's interested in opposing everything, especially everything
supported by his govt.

For everyone else who may be interested:

Ninety-seven percent of climate scientists agree that climate-warming trends over the past
century are very likely due to human activities,1and most of the leading scientific organizations
worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position. The following is a partial list
of these organizations, along with links to their published statements and a selection of
related resources.
American Association for the Advancement of Science
"The scientific evidence is clear: global climate change caused by human activities is
occurring now, and it is a growing threat to society." (2006)

American Chemical Society
"Comprehensive scientific assessments of our current and potential future climates clearly
indicate that climate change is real, largely attributable to emissions from human activities,
and potentially a very serious problem." (2004)

American Geophysical Union
"Human‐induced climate change requires urgent action. Humanity is the major     influence
on the global climate change observed over the     past 50 years.  Rapid societal responses
can significantly     lessen negative outcomes." (Adopted 2003, revised and reaffirmed 2007,
2012, 2013)

American Medical Association
"Our AMA ... supports the findings of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s
fourth assessment report and concurs with the scientific consensus that the Earth is
undergoing adverse global climate change and that anthropogenic contributions are
significant." (2013)

American Meteorological Society
"It is clear from extensive scientific evidence that the dominant cause of the rapid change
in climate of the past half century is human-induced increases in the amount of atmospheric
greenhouse gases, including carbon dioxide (CO2), chlorofluorocarbons, methane, and nitrous
oxide." (2012)

American Physical Society
"The evidence is incontrovertible: Global warming is occurring. If no mitigating actions are
taken, significant disruptions in the Earth’s physical and ecological systems, social systems,
security and human health are likely to occur. We must reduce emissions of greenhouse gases
beginning now." (2007)

The Geological Society of America
"The Geological Society of America (GSA) concurs with assessments by the National Academies
of Science (2005), the National Research Council (2006), and the Intergovernmental Panel
on Climate Change (IPCC, 2007) that global climate has warmed and that human activities
(mainly greenhouse‐gas emissions) account for most of the warming since the middle 1900s."
(2006; revised 2010)


International academies: Joint statement
"Climate change is real. There will always be uncertainty in understanding a system as complex
as the world’s climate. However there is now strong evidence that significant global warming
is occurring. The evidence comes from direct measurements of rising surface air temperatures
and subsurface ocean temperatures and from phenomena such as increases in average global
sea levels, retreating glaciers, and changes to many physical and biological systems. It is likely
that most of the warming in recent decades can be attributed to human activities (IPCC 2001)."
(2005, 11 international science academies)

U.S. National Academy of Sciences
"The scientific understanding of climate change is now sufficiently clear to justify taking steps
to reduce the amount of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere." (2005)

U.S. Global Change Research Program
"The global warming of the past 50 years is due primarily to human-induced increases in heat
-trapping gases. Human 'fingerprints' also have been identified in many other aspects of the
climate system, including changes in ocean heat content, precipitation, atmospheric moisture,
and Arctic sea ice." (2009, 13 U.S. government departments and agencies)

Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
“Warming of the climate system is unequivocal, as is now evident from observations of increases
in global average air and ocean temperatures, widespread melting of snow and ice, and rising global
average sea level.”13

“Most of the observed increase in global average temperatures since the mid-20th century is very
likely* due to the observed increase in anthropogenic greenhouse gas concentrations.”

*IPCC defines ‘very likely’ as greater than 90 percent probability of occurrence.

List of worldwide scientific organizations
The following page lists the nearly 200 worldwide scientific organizations that hold the position
that climate change has been caused by human action.
http://opr.ca.gov/s_listoforganizations.php

Quoted from Box A Rox

If Cissy were serious about LEARNING ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE, I'd offer some information that might
inform him.
Cissy isn't interested in learning anything, he's interested in opposing everything, especially everything
supported by his govt.

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The evidence comes from direct measurements of rising surface air temperatures
and subsurface ocean temperatures and from phenomena such as increases in average global
sea levels, retreating glaciers, and changes to many physical and biological systems. It is likely
that most of the warming in recent decades can be attributed to human activities (IPCC 2001)."
(2005, 11 international science academies)

“Warming of the climate system is unequivocal, as is now evident from observations of increases
in global average air and ocean temperatures, widespread melting of snow and ice, and rising global
average sea level.”13

“Most of the observed increase in global average temperatures since the mid-20th century is very
likely* due to the observed increase in anthropogenic greenhouse gas concentrations.”

What is the average global temperature SUPPOSED TO BE?  I didn't see any data that tells me what the temperature needs to be to be considered normal.  What's the sea level supposed to be?  How large are the glaciers supposed to be?  At what rate should global temperatures increase or decrease?  Is it one degree celcius every 100 years, every 300 years, every 1000 years?  What is the absolute number that has to be achieved in order to claim global warming has been corrected?

Box,  none of your quoted sources give that information.  You're a fact guy, give me the factual scientific numbers of the determined absolute normal averages of everything science measures relating to climate.

Quoted from CICERO

What is the average global temperature SUPPOSED TO BE?  I didn't see any data that tells me what the temperature needs to be to be considered normal.  What's the sea level supposed to be?  How large are the glaciers supposed to be?  At what rate should global temperatures increase or decrease?  Is it one degree celcius every 100 years, every 300 years, every 1000 years?  What is the absolute number that has to be achieved in order to claim global warming has been corrected?

Box,  none of your quoted sources give that information.  You're a fact guy, give me the factual scientific numbers of the determined absolute normal averages of everything science measures relating to climate.[/quote]

Cissy has all these questions... Someone tell him about this new thing called "GOOGLE".  He might find
some of his answers there.  

Quoted from Box A Rox

Cissy has all these questions... Someone tell him about this new thing called "GOOGLE".  He might find
some of his answers there.  

I thought you would have those FACTS committed to memory.  You are such and advocate for global warming, I would hope you didn't just take your scientific FACTS from a TV show produced by Seth McFarlane.

Creationists 6000 Year Old Universe... Problems!

Besides the obvious reasons not to believe in "creationism", there are scientifically proven
ways to determine the age of the earth.

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~ there are galaxies that are so far away, it would take light from their stars billions of
years to get from there to here;
~ we can see these galaxies, so their starlight has already arrived here;
~ the universe must be at least billions of years old—much older than the 6,000 or so
years indicated in the Bible.

"Anti Science,  the opiate of the (gullible) masses"

It is time to REDUCE the human footprint. Lets hope more children of leftists get childhood cancer! That would solve a lot of these man-made troubles. We are overpopulating the planet with our human stain. If more children would die from disease then we will see an improvement for the planet. STOP funding childhood cancer research and STOP creating new drugs. Let's winnow out the baggage and end global climate change!