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Fight??? A bar fight???
Unless he wants to be spending 20 years sitting next to Bradley Chelsea Manning, he'll
fight wherever the President of the USA tells him to fight!
Of course, ten years ago Box and J.O. Box would be trumpeting this man as a "hero" who was "brave" enough to speak out against George Worst Bush.
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| "While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat." |
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Saudi Foreign Minister Saud al-Faisal told foreign ministers meeting in Cairo
that condemnation of Syria over the poison gas attack, which U.S. officials say
killed 1,429 people, was not enough. He said opposing international action on the
grounds that it was "foreign intervention" was no longer acceptable.
"Any opposition to any international action would only encourage Damascus to move
forward with committing its crimes and using all weapons of mass destruction," said Faisal.
"The time has come to call on the world community to bear its responsibility and
take the deterrent measure that puts a halt to the tragedy."
Lead the way Saudi Arabia! Go in and take action! Use those F-16's America sold you and start bombing. Don't let the international community stand in your way. |
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| BuckStrider |
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GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'
Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women' |
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| Henry |
| September 1, 2013, 2:16pm |
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Of course, ten years ago Box and J.O. Box would be trumpeting this man as a "hero" who was "brave" enough to speak out against George Worst Bush.
He always said how you do not have to follow unjust orders, well I guess he believes helping AlQaeda is a just cause. Got to love how box threw out a threat of 20 years in prison if the guy didn't obey his Messiah. |
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He always said how you do not have to follow unjust orders, well I guess he believes helping AlQaeda is a just cause. Got to love how box threw out a threat of 20 years in prison if the guy didn't obey his Messiah.
A soldier is incapable of determining if an order is unconstitutional. Another deliberating government body will tell them just as soon as it is determined unconstitutional. A soldier is not to question why, they are just to do and die. |
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| September 1, 2013, 2:45pm |
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A soldier is incapable of determining if an order is unconstitutional. Another deliberating government body will tell them just as soon as it is determined unconstitutional.
A soldier is not to question why, they are just to do and die.
pretty much but when you say that they get pissed  |
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| Box A Rox |
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Absolutely! Politics is choosing who governs. You didn't agree with Bush invading Iraq, but your belief in "we" allows you to take ownership of the political decision. Even if only 9% of Americans support military action in Syria, 91% are
supposed to take responsibility for the governments action if it decides to enter yet another Middle East conflict.
Rest assured box, it isn't only government collectivism that I don't identify with, there are many collectives I don't identify with. Goverement just happens to be the worst because it uses coercion to force a collective identity.
Over 50% of Americans support a stand off attack on Syria. |
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Absolutely! Politics is choosing who governs. You didn't agree with Bush invading Iraq, but your belief in "we" allows you to take ownership of the political decision. Even if only 9% of Americans support military action in Syria, 91% are
supposed to take responsibility for the governments action if it decides to enter yet another Middle East conflict.
Rest assured box, it isn't only government collectivism that I don't identify with, there are many collectives I don't identify with. Goverement just happens to be the worst because it uses coercion to force a collective identity.
Over 50% of Americans support a stand off attack on Syria. |
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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.
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| rpforpres |
| September 1, 2013, 4:39pm |
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Of course, ten years ago Box and J.O. Box would be trumpeting this man as a "hero" who was "brave" enough to speak out against George Worst Bush.
The sailor didn't speak out against anyone. The sailor in the pic (if he really IS a sailor) is holding up a sign to cover his face. Not exactly "speaking out". When you enlist, no matter who happens to be the Commander in Chief, you are sworn to follow all lawful orders, no matter how much you disagree with that order. If you don't like the rules, don't play the game. |
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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.
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He always said how you do not have to follow unjust orders, well I guess he believes helping AlQaeda
is a just cause. Got to love how box threw out a threat of 20 years in prison if the guy didn't
obey his Messiah.
No Henry, I've always said that you don't have to obey UNLAWFUL orders. Unjust can mean a lot of things to different people. If the order is UNLAWFUL you have an obligation to NOT follow that order. |
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He always said how you do not have to follow unjust orders, well I guess he believes helping AlQaeda
is a just cause. Got to love how box threw out a threat of 20 years in prison if the guy didn't
obey his Messiah.
No Henry, I've always said that you don't have to obey UNLAWFUL orders. Unjust can mean a lot of things to different people. If the order is UNLAWFUL you have an obligation to NOT follow that order. |
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A soldier is incapable of determining if an order is unconstitutional. Another deliberating government body will tell them just as soon as it is determined unconstitutional.
A soldier is not to question why, they are just to do and die.
Unconstitutional or not is left up to the Supreme Court, not some snuffy in the Navy. Again, you confuse UNLAWFUL with UNCONSTITUTIONAL. If you know an order is UNLAWFUL you have an obligation not to follow that order. Henry and Cissy must be confusing the military with our local OathCreapers who decide what laws they want to follow or those that they can ignore. |
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| Henry |
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No Henry, I've always said that you don't have to obey UNLAWFUL orders. Unjust can mean a lot of
things to different people. If the order is UNLAWFUL you have an obligation to NOT follow that order.
Yeah we know box you want to help Al Qaeda because your master thinks its a good idea, I bet your tax dollars funded the ammo to blow this guys head off, you must be thrilled to do your part. |
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