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Or a police officer or a deranged war hardened veteran returning from one of the senseless wars.  Two of the most dangerous people with guns.  


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What Are These Armed Men Afraid Of???

They say that they only carry these weapons for "SELF DEFENSE", yet they carried their
weapons into a 'family restaurant" terrorizing it's customers who called 911.
Are they afraid of 'families eating dinner in a family restaurant'???



The same group of demented GunHuggers terrorized another family restaurant in November:


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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These Fearful GunHugger Terrorists want to portray a "good guy with a gun" but pics of their group
show just the opposite.



I wonder how many times these Terrorists pointed their weapons at customers in their "family
restaurant protest", which led to customers calling the police.

Good guy with a gun???
More like DumbAss with a gun.

Hopefully the group will disband when enough of them accidently shoot each other at these protests.


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For anyone who has lost a child, or anyone who
can even imagine it happening:




The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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For anyone who has lost a child, or anyone who
can even imagine it happening:




The killer stabbed 3 of his 6 victims to death but lets blame the NRA, this was a failure by multiple parties because the warnings were there including a video where he said he was going to start killing people, actually he made numerous videos stated his hatred and even his parents warned authorities they were worried he might do something.



"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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I'm Pro Knife!



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The s.o.b. that killed those people in Santa Barbara was a seriously disturbed person who came from a rich family and whose parents, apparently, didn't do a very good job raising him.  
As for trying to make this all about gun laws, the killer used a knife and his car as a weapon as well.  Besides that, California has some of the toughest gun laws in the country.
It should be noted that the killer's father was a Hollywood executive who worked on the movie, Hunger Games.  Maybe if the Hollywood extremist liberals stopped producing such violence-filled crap and started behaving REAL parents to their children, than maybe tragedies like this would never have happened.


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GunHuggers Not Welcome!

No one wants to be around these Right Wing Crazies!




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I'm Pro Knife!



There's not much running to done in an apartment.. He probably knifed those guys as they slept...
But let's not worry 'bout that, it ruins the satirical effect.  


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You can defend against a knife with a broom, a fireplace poker, a kitchen knife, a chair, a can of mace,
a door, etc.
You can run from a knife even if it's around the kitchen table, out the door and down the stairs...

All of these possible defenses are useless against a shooter with a gun.

To kind of clarify... which would you rather defend against...
a Shooter with 50 rounds
or
An 8 inch hunting knife?


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You can defend against a knife with a broom, a fireplace poker, a kitchen knife, a chair, a can of mace,
a door, etc.
You can run from a knife even if it's around the kitchen table, out the door and down the stairs...

All of these possible defenses are useless against a shooter with a gun.

To kind of clarify... which would you rather defend against...
a Shooter with 50 rounds
or
An 8 inch hunting knife?


You can't defend against ANYTHING if the element of surprise is used... He killed three in his apartment... using your logic, at least one of them should have had time to escape... they didn't...the only explanation is they were sleeping.
Any weapon can be deadly and non-defensible under the right circumstances.

I have been consistent on my feelings about REASONABLE gun control... I have also been consistent about realizing that a motivated killer will just find a another weapon.


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You can't defend against ANYTHING if the element of surprise is used... He killed three in his apartment... using your logic, at least one of them should have had time to escape... they didn't...the only explanation is they were sleeping.
Any weapon can be deadly and non-defensible under the right circumstances.

I have been consistent on my feelings about REASONABLE gun control... I have also been consistent about realizing that a motivated killer will just find a another weapon.


Again I ask:
Which would you rather defend against...
a Shooter with 50 rounds
or
An 8 inch hunting knife?


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Again I ask:
Which would you rather defend against...
a Shooter with 50 rounds
or
An 8 inch hunting knife?

Ok, I'll answer , knife wielder...of course.. but those 3 men are just as dead by a knife as those who got shot..period..

But that wasn't the point of MY post, which you tried to ignore as per usual...
My point is you anti-gun zealots think that elimination of guns will magically make multiple homicides disappear... this incident was proof it won't..
Now you'll respond with "Blah Blah Blah, I am only for responsible gun laws".. which you know is a crock of sh*t.


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Ok, I'll answer , knife wielder...of course.. but those 3 men are just as dead by a knife as those who got shot..period..

But that wasn't the point of MY post, which you tried to ignore as per usual...
My point is you anti-gun zealots think that elimination of guns will magically make multiple homicides disappear... this incident was proof it won't..
Now you'll respond with "Blah Blah Blah, I am only for responsible gun laws".. which you know is a crock of sh*t.


"Blah Blah Blah, I am only for responsible gun laws" THERE ARE YA HAPPY???
(At least Bucky was right about one thing today)

Good Gun Laws Save Lives.  There is no doubt about that.
With a state like NY, next to an open gun state like Vermont, the Good Gun Laws that could be much
more effective are diluted by gun runners who make a living transporting guns to Good Gun Law
states.
States with strictest firearm laws have lowest rates of gun deaths,
Boston Children’s Hospital Study.

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The research, published online Wednesday in the journal JAMA Internal Medicine,
analyzed gun laws in all 50 states as well as the total number of gun-related deaths in
each state from 2007 through 2010. It found that fatality rates ranged from a high of 17.9
per 100,000 people in Louisiana—a state among those with the fewest gun laws—to a low
of 2.9 per 100,000 in Hawaii, which ranks sixth for its number of gun restrictions.
Massachusetts, which the researchers said has the most gun restrictions, had a gun
fatality rate of 3.4 per 100,000.
“Critics of gun laws have said that gun laws don’t work, but our research indicates the opposite,”


So Bucky (hardly an unbiased observer) states that Gun Laws Don't Work! He bases his OPINION
on his political agenda.
I'll opt for the science from those with research and data over Bucky's opinion.  


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"Blah Blah Blah, I am only for responsible gun laws" THERE ARE YA HAPPY???
(At least Bucky was right about one thing today)

Good Gun Laws Save Lives.  There is no doubt about that.
With a state like NY, next to an open gun state like Vermont, the Good Gun Laws that could be much
more effective are diluted by gun runners who make a living transporting guns to Good Gun Law
states.
States with strictest firearm laws have lowest rates of gun deaths,
Boston Children’s Hospital Study.



So Bucky (hardly an unbiased observer) states that Gun Laws Don't Work! He bases his OPINION
on his political agenda.
I'll opt for the science from those with research and data over Bucky's opinion.  


The main driving force for gun laws are the violent crimes committed with them.
If you want to see what those laws do on gun CRIME, you need to separate the gun suicides from this study.
Gun suicides make up 60% of the total gun deaths in this survey, it would be interesting to see what effect the laws have when you remove that component.

In the CBS news article covering this Survey, the following is noted

"Editorial author Dr. Garen Wintemute, director the Violence Prevention Research Program at the University of California, Davis, said the study doesn't answer which laws, if any, work.
Wintemute said it's likely that gun control measures are more readily enacted in states with few gun owners — a factor that might have more influence on gun deaths than the number of laws."


And this Harvard study questions whether gun laws reduce the amount of overall violent crime, even if the crime committed with guns are down.

http://www.bostonmagazine.com/.....n-violence-with-ban/


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