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Oh, so you're inside her head and now what she thinks and why!  WOW, didn't know you were so astute!
Twist and shout!


Re-read the article.  She said he called for medical help, instead they sent two cops.  If you call reading the article getting in her head - then I'm guilty.

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Before the call ended, she said: "Just the ambulance is coming, right? No police, right?" The operator said police and paramedics would be notified.


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Don't you know- all suicidal people need to be executed without trial. It fulfills their wish.


Yes, you always bring guns to a the aid of suicidal people.  Then you restrict them from having guns because they may use them.


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Yes, you always bring guns to a the aid of suicidal people.  Then you restrict them from having guns because they may use them.


GunHuggers campaign to take guns everywhere... now Cicero wants the cops to leave their guns
at home!  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Re-read the article.  She said he called for medical help, instead they sent two cops.  If you call reading the article getting in her head - then I'm guilty.



Maybe you should re-read the article and try using your big head to understand and apply logic:
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"Yeah. He threw the refrigerator down and threw glass everywhere and stuff," Herron said. "He broke his TV and everything."
Herron said Roberson hadn't physically threatened anyone in the house. The operator asked if he had said anything to indicate he might be suicidal.
"He says he wants to die," Herron told the operator. "But I don't know."
Before the call ended, she said: "Just the ambulance is coming, right? No police, right?" The operator said police and paramedics would be notified.


Suicidal thoughts
Violant actions
Handfull of medication
Unknown if there were weapons
Tells 911 no cops...RED FLAG!!!!!

So rational thinking says SEND PARAMEDICS ALONE!!!  GET REAL!!!!!!
Cops should have unholstered their guns and locked them in the car
before they went up to house...GET REAL!!!!!!!!!
Just where in LA LA LAND do you live on anyway.


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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GunHuggers campaign to take guns everywhere... now Cicero wants the cops to leave their guns
at home!  


Well yeah, they are the leading cause of gun violence.  Duh!!!


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Well yeah, they are the leading cause of gun violence.  Duh!!!


THE LEADING CAUSE OF GUN VIOLENCE???
I didn't know that.

Got a link???



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Cops should have unholstered their guns and locked them in the car
before they went up to house...GET REAL!!!!!!!!!
Just where in LA LA LAND do you live on anyway.


Nope, they did as trained.  Treat every situation like the person is out to kill them and kill them first.  

You guys are great.  How about if the next door neighbors went over to help the woman out and they shot the guy?  Would it be justified?  Would you be defending the Good Samaritan that shot a diabetic they were helping?  

My guess is, even if the Good Samaritans were getting their head bounced off the concrete and they shot him in self defense, you would be calling for their execution.  But since they are cops, well...they did the right thing.  


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Nope, they did as trained.  Treat every situation like the person is out to kill them and kill them first.  

You guys are great.  How about of the next door neighbors went over to help the woman out and they shot the guy?  Would it be justified?  Would you be defending the Good Samaritan that shot a diabetic they were helping?  


CISSYNALOGIES abound...
Reality, common sense, honest thought, non-biased evaluation.............absent!!!!

Trained to be prepared for any situation...and this one was potential threatening based
on 911 call and comments provided by people at the house.

Yes, I would condemn the neighbor...why did they go over with a gun (which is illegal for them to do)?
If threatening they should have run away and called Police...so neighbor would be totally wrong!!!   DUH!!!!!
Try making these same ludicrous comments in a SOCIAL SETTING!!!    (LOL)


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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CISSYNALOGIES abound...
Reality, common sense, honest thought, non-biased evaluation.............absent!!!!
Try making these same ludicrous comments in a SOCIAL SETTING!!!    (LOL)


The analogies are simple, you hold cops to a separate standard to everybody else.  If they kill people in what they perceive is self defense, you give them a pass.  internal investigation, and maybe a suspension with pay.  If a regular ole citizen kills in self defense, they do not get the same benefit of the doubt, they must be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

Joe, your reality is, cops are special people.  And cop homicide is always justified.  


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IMO, since cops are in a position of power that makes them Cicero's "Special People".  They need "special"
training, "special" authority, and "special" responsibility.

Given their training and position, I would hold the police to a higher level of responsibility than the average
citizen.  
I am a firm believer of 'citizens review boards' to oversee any charge of police corruption or police brutality.

I would like to see any accusation of abuse of power to be investigated by an 'outside' agency... providing
local, state or federal oversight.



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Well yeah, they are the leading cause of gun violence.  Duh!!!


THE LEADING CAUSE OF GUN VIOLENCE???
I didn't know that.
Got a link???

I guess ya got nuthin'  


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Quoted from Box A Rox

I am a firm believer of 'citizens review boards' to oversee any charge of police corruption or police brutality.

I would like to see any accusation of abuse of power to be investigated by an 'outside' agency... providing
local, state or federal oversight.



A jury is a citizen review board.  Prosecutors are supposed to be the unbiased investigating agency.

Yes, you want a special legal system for cops.


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A jury is a citizen review board.  Prosecutors are supposed to be the unbiased investigating agency.

Yes, you want a special legal system for cops.


As stated above, I want YOUR SPECIAL cops to have SPECIAL additional oversight.  Because we
entrust the police with power, we need to oversee that power to prevent abuse and corruption.

I want prosecutors PLUS a citizens review board.  One doesn't replace the other.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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I want prosecutors PLUS a citizens review board.  One doesn't replace the other.


A CRB is just as corrupt, look into how RP4pres is trying to get on the one in Schenectady, they won't even review her resume. They want the ones who are cherry picked for the position.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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A CRB is just as corrupt, look into how RP4pres is trying to get on the one in Schenectady, they won't even review her resume. They want the ones who are cherry picked for the position.


If you feel that the review board is not doing it's job, then you should do something about it.
Get elected yourself and work to make the system better.
If you feel the review board is corrupt, then report your evidence to the state attorney general.


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