I don't know if Cicero is a Christian or a 'believer' but there is a world of people out there who believe in Jesus Christ as the son of God, yet they never saw the 'evidence'. The books written about the event are contradicting and unreliable, and even the paintings of the events are so very different that no one could identify the 'body' by the pics of the day.
They doubt what is factual and accept what is myth... but it does make em feel better.
FINALLY! You get it! You've accepted the myth without evidence. You are a believer! You don't doubt what is factual, because you don't require evidence. You just need to be told it is fact, you have no need to verify evidence. Even when the factual evidence is available and they tell you that you don't need to see it - just trust us - "we got'em"!
A point you keep ignoring... Releasing the photos would have no gain for America or the administration. Drones have had a huge effect on decimating Al Qaeda.
For the last time... One has no positive effect... the other has a huge upside.
Don't forget it might give Americans nightmares because it is to graphic lmao, I can't believe you bought into those lame a** excuses they gave.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Yahoo is a Ron Paul groupie website, wow I never knew.
Remember when RP was running and holding RP ORGASMATHONS with (as you put it) HUGE CROWDS! Remember when RP was winning all those (unscientific) online polls and straw polls? According to that data... RP could have beaten every Republican contender and went on to beat Obama. The actual facts... RP Groupies are a very noisy, and very active sect. They don't represent American values but their activism paints them larger than they actually are.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Don't forget it might give Americans nightmares because it is to graphic lmao, I can't believe you bought into those lame a** excuses they gave.
American Nightmares wasn't the issue... Propaganda for Extremist Muslim Terrorists was.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Remember when RP was running and holding RP ORGASMATHONS with (as you put it) HUGE CROWDS! Remember when RP was winning all those (unscientific) online polls and straw polls? According to that data... RP could have beaten every Republican contender and went on to beat Obama. The actual facts... RP Groupies are a very noisy, and very active sect. They don't represent American values but their activism paints them larger than they actually are.
I remember seeing actual proof (pictures and videos) of cheating, read was I wrote ACTUAL PROOF, because of that yes I believe he was cheated out of winning the primaries. Fake ballot and everything were handed out not to mention kicking out elected delegates who were voted in by the people. There is a ton of actual PROOF of wrong doing.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
FINALLY! You get it! You've accepted the myth without evidence. You are a believer! You don't doubt what is factual, because you don't require evidence. You just need to be told it is fact, you have no need to verify evidence. Even when the factual evidence is available and they tell you that you don't need to see it - just trust us - "we got'em"!
I would be glad to accept any credible evidence to the contrary. I would look into any relevant information that points to a hoax. I've seen none. I've read none. And other than the Conspiracy Crazies... people who believe in Big Foot and The Moon Landing was a HOAX... I've seen no reason to doubt what is a widely accepted event.
PLEASE... PLEASE, give me some evidence to the contrary.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
I remember seeing actual proof (pictures and videos) of cheating, read was I wrote ACTUAL PROOF, because of that yes I believe he was cheated out of winning the primaries. Fake ballot and everything were handed out not to mention kicking out elected delegates who were voted in by the people. There is a ton of actual PROOF of wrong doing.
Yes I understand that you believe that Henry.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
American Nightmares wasn't the issue... Propaganda for Extremist Muslim Terrorists was.
Nope being to graphic was one of the excuses you gave and also a question you ignored earlier
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Nope being to graphic was one of the excuses you gave and also a question you ignored earlier
OK. If you think that then you must agree that the graphic pics of US Contractors being executed and dragged through the streets in Iraq and US troops bodies dragged through the streets in Somalia had an impact on some Americans.
Similarly, such graphic pics would likely have the same effect in radical Muslim communities.
It's really not that difficult a concept.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
That right there is a fake ballot being handed out by a paid Romney staff member to confuse or screw up the delegate process
Here is the video of the guy who was doing it
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
In an interview with Steve Kroft for this Sunday's "60 Minutes" conducted today, President Obama said he won't release post-mortem images of Osama bin Laden taken to prove his death. "It is important to make sure that very graphic photos of somebody who was shot in the head are not floating around as an incitement to additional violence or as a propaganda tool," said the president. "We don't trot out this stuff as trophies," Mr. Obama added. "The fact of the matter is, this is somebody who was deserving of the justice..."
Very graphic photo used as propaganda. I assume if the photos were not graphic, they would have been released. But the Saddam photos of his death were not used as propaganda, even though we were told by our intel agencies he was aiding "terrorism", they decided those pictures would be good propaganda for the American public in order to build support for the war.
A point you keep ignoring... Releasing the photos would have no gain for America or the administration.
What about closure for the family members of the victims of 9-11?
I agree the Administration had nothing to gain, only public scrutiny over the timely death of Bin Laden prior to an election. Also, the photo may have diminished the public support of the "war on terror" and the need for the intrusive Patriot Act(which we are seeing now).
That right there is a fake ballot being handed out by a paid Romney staff member to confuse or screw up the delegate process
Here is the video of the guy who was doing it
LOL @ PROOF!!!
1. The ditzy blonde claims to be an injured RP Groupie. Maybe she is or maybe she isn't. I have no way of knowing... But if I were a Conspiracy Crazy... I wouldn't believe a cell phone video... just like Conspiracy Crazies don't believe the vast majority of news media that Obama got Binladen.
2. Or... Maybe the ditzy blonde is an actress made up to look like an actual deligate.
3. If you are complaining that Conservative Republicans are guilty of "dirty tricks"... WELCOME TO THE CLUB! See:
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In the 2004 election there was massive GOP voter fraud and suppression; from black box voting fraud, vote tabulating fraud, re-registering people into different precincts, destroying voter registration forms, misinformation in poor neighborhoods, moving polls close to election day, old ballot machines in poor and black neighborhoods that spoil votes, ballot checking machines in wealthy neighborhoods that allow wealthy voters to re-cast spoiled ballots, police intimidation, caging lists and on and on and on. The result was an 8 million vote discrepancy between the official results and exit polls. The official results had Bush winning by 3 million votes but the exit polls had Kerry winning by 5 million votes.
Richard Nixon/Watergate
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Ross Perot accuses Republicans of "dirty tricks" against his presidential campaign including a wiretap in his Dallas office and threats to publish phony nude photos of his daughter and sabotage her wedding. In July, Perot drops out until after his daughters wedding and then re-enters the race, splits the conservative ticket with George Bush and Clinton wins the presidency.
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Ed Muskie's "Canuck Letter" which was a forgery from the GOP Nixon committee.
Henry if you're trying to convince me that the GOP are a no good bunch of b@stards, go no further. We already agree.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
If that's you logic in what is considered fact in absence of evidence, then show me definitive evidence there is no God.
I have no evidence that God exists or doesn't exist. Religion by it's nature is an act of faith, not fact.
On the other hand... when the weather man said it would rain today... He could have been lying. He could have been part of an elaborate plot by the National Weather Service to control American behavior. He could have been part of an Obama Plot... If I had evidence of the Weather Conspiracy... I'd investigate it. Since I don't... I have no reason not to believe the weather man.
(I hope this line of thought doesn't invite the Weather Conspiracy Crazies to join in. This issue is strange enough with out them)
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
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