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Much like the pics of G Worst Bush's Abu Ghraib prisoners, pics of Bin Laden's dead body would
only hurt US interests.



So you are suggesting pictures of Abu Gharib should have never been made public?  Why did democrats exploit it if it hurt national interests?  A political agenda?


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Your post leads me to believe that I'm right about you... this is agenda driven, not fact driven.

Of course Al Qaeda needs no excuse to attack us... (your bogus point), but Al Qaeda DOES need
support from the region to survive.  The more inflamed the populace of Muslim countries, the more
support for Terrorists... and you know it.
Saudi Arabia walks a fine line between supporting terror and supporting US interests.  Pics of Bin Laden's
dead bloody body would make it more difficult for any Muslim country to support the US.

Much like the pics of G Worst Bush's Abu Ghraib prisoners, pics of Bin Laden's dead body would
only hurt US interests.




BS Abu Ghraib was completely different then showing a dead body, middle eastern countries show deaths caused by our military everyday so your theory holds no water.


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So you are suggesting pictures of Abu Gharib should have never been made public?


Straw man... jezzzzzzzzzzzzz Cicero.  Was that my point???
Is that the best you can do???



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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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BS Abu Ghraib was completely different then showing a dead body, middle eastern countries show deaths caused by our military everyday so your theory holds no water.


Yes they show death for a purpose... they show bloody kids for political agenda, and they show their
govt officials kissing babies for the same reason.
I know you understand Propaganda... you're a RP Groupie... you exist on it.


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Yes they show death for a purpose... they show bloody kids for political agenda, and they show their
govt officials kissing babies for the same reason.
I know you understand Propaganda... you're a RP Groupie... you exist on it.


They show pictures because it is news, it might be a political agenda behind it but those incidents did take place. So what you are saying is the media shouldn't have aired 9/11 or the Boston bombings because some might use it for a agenda...please.


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Straw man... jezzzzzzzzzzzzz Cicero.  Was that my point???
Is that the best you can do???



Straw man?  You brought up Abu Gharib.  I responded to your straw man, now you are running away from it?

Box sets up straw men, them when you challenge his straw men, he accuses YOU of a straw man.


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Funny watching straw man after straw man appear in response to my post.  (NOTE: if they had a real
argument, they would have used it)!

Posting pics of a dead Bin Laden would likely harm relation with countries like Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.

Posting pics of a dead Bin Laden would do no good for the US Govt or America.

Other than to disappoint the 6% of Conspiracy Crazies... what good would it do to post the pics.
(The Conspiracy Crazies would not accept any pics anyway, just as they didn't accept Obama's
Birth Certificate)

So what is to gain and what is to lose???  


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Posting pics of a dead Bin Laden would likely harm relation with countries like Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.

  


Posting a picture of the worlds #1 terrorist would harm relations with governments but bombing their countries is not, an argument of a fool.


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Posting a picture of the worlds #1 terrorist would harm relations with governments but bombing
their countries is not, an argument of a fool.


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So what is to gain and what is to lose???  


Selective drone strikes on Al Qaeda... the US gains.
Posting pics of Bin Laden dead... We gain nothing.

Both may damage US relations in the Muslim world.  One for no gain, the other for major gain.


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Selective drone strikes on Al Qaeda... the US gains.
Posting pics of Bin Laden dead... We gain nothing.

Both may damage US relations in the Muslim world.  One for no gain, the other for major gain.


What's the major gain of drone strikes, we kill 1 terrorist and create hundreds to take their place over our policies, you can't bomb terrorism away. How many terrorist attacks took place before we invaded Iraq, how many have taken place during and after our invasion.


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What's the major gain of drone strikes, we kill 1 terrorist and create hundreds to take their place over our policies, you can't bomb terrorism away. How many terrorist attacks took place before we invaded Iraq, how many have taken place during and after our invasion.


I really don't understand your question.  I think you didn't think this one through

George Worst Bush invaded Iraq, for OIL.  His excuse was WMD's and that a veiled statement that he
was fighting Al Qaeda in Iraq.  (there were almost no Al Qaeda in Iraq under Saddam's Iraq)

The US Invading Iraq had no effect on eliminating Al Qaeda (since there were none there)
but was a huge recruiting poster for terrorism.  The Muslim world saw first hand that the USA under Bush
would invade a Muslim country to get at it's oil.


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Funny watching straw man after straw man appear in response to my post.  (NOTE: if they had a real
argument, they would have used it)!


Straw man after straw man, in response to your straw men.

The only FACT that we can definiately say is a FACT, is that they allegedly dumped Bin Laden's body in the ocean and showed no PROOF to the American public.  That's the ONLY FACT.  Box's facts are from an Al Qaeda website and a staged photo-op of Obama and staff in the situation room.  Anybody else that doesn't except that evidence as FACT are conspiracy theorists.  Or AKA-logical thinkers because they understand they have never been presented with key evidence(the dead body), and this administration openly denied releasing that evidence.  

That would be like being charged with murder, but the prosecutor refusing to let the defense see the dead body.  If box was on that jury, he would convict the person charged with murder on just the word of the state.  


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George Worst Bush invaded Iraq, for OIL.


How do you know this to be FACT?  Isn't that a bit conspiratorial?  Do you have evidence of this?  

I know, you just hate Bush because he's a white Christian, and you will oppose anything a white Christian does because you are a racist.  If Obama did this, you would support it.LOL


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How do you know this to be FACT?  Isn't that a bit conspiratorial?  Do you have evidence of this?  

I know, you just hate Bush because he's a white Christian, and you will oppose anything a white Christian does because you are a racist.  If Obama did this, you would support it.LOL


Another Cicero meltdown!  


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Another Cicero meltdown!  


Another ad hominem argument because he was caught making a claim with no evidence - again.  Lol.  This is fun.  Box's faith based FACTS.


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