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New study finds 99.999% certainty humans are causing global warming

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There is less than 1 chance in 100,000 that global average temperature over the
past 60 years would have been as high without human-caused greenhouse gas emissions,
our new research shows.

Published in the journal Climate Risk Management today, our research is the first to
quantify the probability of historical changes in global temperatures and examines the
links to greenhouse gas emissions using rigorous statistical techniques.

Our new CSIRO work provides an objective assessment linking global temperature
increases to human activity, which points to a close to certain probability exceeding 99.999%.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2212096314000163


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New study finds 99.999% certainty humans are causing global warming


http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2212096314000163


What is causing it really doesn't matter, it's what we can do about it....realistically.. and answer is , not much...
Getting the world to act as one for any cause has rarely worked, and hoping market forces cause change doesn't work either.
http://time.com/money/3269068/hybrid-electric-cars-sales-nissan-leaf-tesla/

What we really should be doing instead of wringing our hands to place blame or trying to stop it, is to adapt to the change.
I might be for carbon taxes if it went for adapting to climate change, but I fear it's a money grab more than anything else
For starters, we should take a hard look at our coastal cities and make some hard choices on allowing further development of ANY kind in low lying areas.


"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
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What is causing it really doesn't matter, it's what we can do about it....realistically.. and answer is , not much...
Getting the world to act as one for any cause has rarely worked, and hoping market forces cause change doesn't work either.
http://time.com/money/3269068/hybrid-electric-cars-sales-nissan-leaf-tesla/

What we really should be doing instead of wringing our hands to place blame or trying to stop it, is to adapt to the change.
I might be for carbon taxes if it went for adapting to climate change, but I fear it's a money grab more than anything else
For starters, we should take a hard look at our coastal cities and make some hard choices on allowing further development of ANY kind in low lying areas.


Much has been written on the "tipping point" of which any actions would be futile.   I can only hope
we are not now beyond that point.  
It would seem that there are some corrections that could be relatively easy and inexpensive, others
that are more costly and others prohibitively expensive.  The issue does seem too big to ever correct.

I remember when cleaning up our streams and rivers was proposed.  There are those who called it impossible
and too expensive.  I remember when I was a kid, seeing the locks on the Mohawk River clogged with garbage,
oil, sewage etc.  I even saw a half rotted calf float by, as many along the river bank used the river as a
waste dump.  
To make this near impossible task happen, we need to start now.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Much has been written on the "tipping point" of which any actions would be futile.   I can only hope
we are not now beyond that point.  
It would seem that there are some corrections that could be relatively easy and inexpensive, others
that are more costly and others prohibitively expensive.  The issue does seem too big to ever correct.

I remember when cleaning up our streams and rivers was proposed.  There are those who called it impossible
and too expensive.  I remember when I was a kid, seeing the locks on the Mohawk River clogged with garbage,
oil, sewage etc.  I even saw a half rotted calf float by, as many along the river bank used the river as a
waste dump.  
To make this near impossible task happen, we need to start now.

We did a great job cleaning up the Mohawk... but this problem is worldwide...I have friends that routinely travel to China and India for a company I used to work for... you would not believe how bad things are there in an environmental sense... It makes LA look like Denali national park...


"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
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Much of Asia is a toxic waste dump... but so was a lot of the USA.  Remember Love Canal?
As Asia prospers, it will hopefully start cleaning up it's mess too.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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OF COURSE THERE IS CLIMATE CHANGE.....but we only live about 100years each and we really don't care about stuff that we can't
change....the force, power, effect of the universe on Earth is much bigger than us....until another life form shows up to tell
us differently...we are alone (but I don't think so )



...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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This past August was the warmest since records began in 1881, according to new data released
by NASA.
The latest readings continue a series of record or near-record breaking months.
May of this year was also the warmest in recorded history.


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and then the dinosaurs farted.....green house gases......

it's not finished



...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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More than 400,000 people turned out for the People's Climate March
in New York City on Sunday, just days before many of the world's leaders are
expected to debate environmental action at the United Nations climate summit.



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Former Obama Official: Climate Change Not 'Settled' Science

Sunday, 21 Sep 2014 06:11 PM

By Sandy Fitzgerald
A former high-ranking Obama administration official says climate science and the implications of global warming are not "settled," insisting such claims are "misguided" and stifle debate on the matter.

Writing a Page One story in the Wall Street Journal Weekend Review section, Dr. Steven Koonin argues that group think among experts has been inhibiting "the scientific and policy discussions that we need to have about our climate future."

Koonin, who served at the Energy Department as President Obama’s undersecretary for science in the Energy Department, is director of the Center for Urban Science and Progress at New York University.

Koonin’s position strikes a blow against climate change activists as People’s Climate March organized demonstrations at more than 2,000 locations worldwide.

In New York, tens of thousands participated in the demonstration demanding urgent steps against carbon emissions as the United Nation’s General Assembly opened.

"We often hear that there is a 'scientific consensus' about climate change," writes Koonan.  "But as far as the computer models go, there isn't a useful consensus at the level of detail relevant to assessing human influences."
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Remember. To Boxy these are 'mainstream' every day people....Communists and Socialists UNITE!!!!







"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for
GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'

Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'

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Mr. Kennedy Jr. explains the 'Climate Alarmist' scam in a nutshell.....







"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for
GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'

Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'

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Of course it's a scam. What surprises me even more is that people are actually still talking about it!!!  


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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Wait....

I thought this rally was about 'Climate Change'?






"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for
GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'

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