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Box A Rox
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Gabby Giffords to US Senators:
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Speaking is physically difficult for me. But my feelings are clear: I'm furious. I will not
rest until we have righted the wrong these senators have done, and until we have changed
our laws so we can look parents in the face and say: We are trying to keep your children safe....
I am asking every reasonable American to help me tell the truth about the cowardice these
senators demonstrated. I am asking for mothers to stop these lawmakers at the grocery store
and tell them: You've lost my vote. I am asking activists to unsubscribe from these senators'
e-mail lists and to stop giving them money. I'm asking citizens to go to their offices and say:
You've disappointed me, and there will be consequences.

Our democracy's history is littered with names we neither remember nor celebrate — people
who stood in the way of progress while protecting the powerful. On Wednesday, a number
of senators voted to join that list.

NY Times


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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SHE WAS SHOT IN THE 'BRAIN'!!!!!
Anyone with that kind of an injury is NOT the same person....duh!!!
She was shot...so what?
So are hundreds of thousands of innocent, killed and tortured in other countries by 'her' government.
It's her government that kills american citizens without due process.
Her government that goes to war 'unconstitutionally'.
And she's worried about guns?
It appears that she has lost her mind and her government and husband are taking full advantage of that fact for their own political gain!

What makes ms.gabby so special? There were other folks that are DEAD or were injured....while she was granted better medical care than any of the others!!!

'LOOK AT US WE'RE WALKING....LOOK AT US WE'RE TALKING'............paleeeeeeeeeeeeeez
give me a break!!


She's a sham and her husband a bigger sham, after her new little scam group they created her husband tried to buy the very gun they're against, only after he was caught did he make some BS excuse how he was trying to show how easy it is to get one, which is a croc of $hit because everyone already knows the process. If that wasn't enough photos of her with a AR-15 and a AK-47 came into the spotlight


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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She's a sham and her husband a bigger sham, after her new little scam group they created her husband tried to buy the very gun they're against, only after he was caught did he make some BS excuse how he was trying to show how easy it is to get one, which is a croc of $hit because everyone already knows the process. If that wasn't enough photos of her with a AR-15 and a AK-47 came into the spotlight


Of course, Henry wasn't paying attention the last time this crap was addressed.
It's BS of course, but Henry already knows that!


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Biden Readies Gun Control Advocates For Round Two

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A week after the Senate failed to come up with 60 votes to pass a measure expanding
background checks on gun buyers, Vice President Joe Biden regrouped with gun control
advocates on Thursday and reassured them the White House isn't giving up the fight.

Biden made "a real commitment" to keep pushing for gun reforms, said Pia Carusone, executive
director of Americans for Responsible Solutions, a gun control PAC run by former Rep. Gabby
Giffords (D-Ariz.) and her husband Mark Kelly.

"Walking into the meeting, I wasn't sure which way this was going to go," Carusone said. "But
now I'm more confident they're going to keep the pressure on."

Biden met with the groups for about an hour. In addition to Giffords' group, Mayors Against
Illegal Guns; The Brady Campaign; the Center for American Progress; the Joyce Foundation;
the Newtown, Conn.-based Moms Demand Action and law enforcement officials also attended the meeting.

Biden's message to the groups was, "It's the beginning. It's not the end," said Carusone.
"The tone of the meeting was very positive. There is a collective sense that we are on
the right side of history."


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Of course, Henry wasn't paying attention the last time this crap was addressed.
It's BS of course, but Henry already knows that!


So he didn't try to buy a AR-15? So Gabby wasn't shooting a AR-15 and AK-47? The only argument you had was he was going to turn it in which didn't make sense because everyone knows the system in place. I know you're mad you got scammed but don't make it worse by lying


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She's a phony politician using her tragedy to campaign against republicans.  Her  PAC is running ads against those senators that voted against the gun control legislation.   Well, not all the senators, just Republicans, not the 4 Democrats that voted against it.  She's real principled.


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So Gabby wasn't shooting a AR-15 and AK-47?. I know you're mad you got scammed but don't make it worse by lying


Gabby Giffords (as posted at least twice on this board) has been a strong supporter of the best
weapons possible for police and US military.
Are these the pics you were whining about???

The pics of Gabby at the Tuscon Police Range shooting the weapons that she helped secure for
her states police??? Those AR 15's???


OR,

Are you whining about this photo of Gabby shooting an assault weapon IN AFGHANISTAN WITH
US TROOPS???


As I member of the House Armed Services Committee, I proudly spent a lot of time
with our military, border patrol and state and local law enforcement. I guess the
intention of those who have publicized these photos is to somehow call into question
my belief that military style assault weapons should be more strongly regulated with
background checks and other safeguards. I have never wavered in my support for those
who serve our country. I fought to make sure they have the weapons and safety gear
needed to carry out their mission, and proper health and mental care when their service
ends.
Both sides of the gun violence debate usually miss the point. We don’t have to choose
between owning, using, and enjoying guns, on one hand, and preventing gun violence, on
the other. Both sides need to come together to support commonsense solutions to gun
violence, like keeping guns out of the hands of dangerous people like the young man who
shot me. That’s why I’m fighting this fight. That’s why I’m working to bring people together
to support gun rights and reduce gun violence. I hope you join me.

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I know you're mad you got scammed but don't make it worse by lying


The only SCAM going on here is yours, along with your LIES!  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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So he didn't try to buy a AR-15? So Gabby wasn't shooting a AR-15 and AK-47? The only argument you had was he was going to turn it in which didn't make sense because everyone knows the system in place. I know you're mad you got scammed but don't make it worse by lying


although this is all true...and obviously something that came back to bite them in the a$$....the bottom line is....Ms. Gabby is a phoney just like her husband and the politicians that exploit her. If she were in her 'right mind' (which doesn't existanymore), i would hope to believe that she would have never allowed herself to be used like she is now....at least we think that!

She lost all credibility when the poor thing got shot in the BRAIN!!! Her government parades her around like we are suppose to believe that she is actively doing it of her own free will.....paleeeeeeeeezz!
she don't know...she don't care....can barely talk or walk OR think! DUH!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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although this is all true...and obviously something that came back to bite them in the a$$....the bottom line is....Ms. Gabby is a phoney just like her husband and the politicians that exploit her. If she were in her 'right mind' (which doesn't existanymore), i would hope to believe that she would have never allowed herself to be used like she is now....at least we think that!

She lost all credibility when the poor thing got shot in the BRAIN!!! Her government parades her around like we are suppose to believe that she is actively doing it of her own free will.....paleeeeeeeeezz!
she don't know...she don't care....can barely talk or walk OR think! DUH!


Sure she is being used that is why they're using her for the face of gun control, her quotes that box put up were probably written before hand by her husband in case they failed. I wish her the best but I'm not buying into this fraud they're pulling.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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The only SCAM going on here is yours, along with your LIES!  


No lies here those pictures speak for themselves unlike Gabby, by the way how much did they scam you for $25-50 bucks. All your hatred for AR's and gun retailers and your money went right to them, oh how I love it


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No lies here those pictures speak for themselves unlike Gabby, by the way how much did they scam you for $25-50 bucks. All your hatred for AR's and gun retailers and your money went right to them, oh how I love it


My $$ went to fund their website.  Money well spent as far as I'm concerned.
Both Giffords and her husband own guns and support the 2nd amendment.  They like most NRA Members
support background checks... so does the vast majority of Americans.
I have no hatred for assault weapons, or gun dealers.  I appreciate all kinds of military weapons
and have visited the Springfield armory in MA and enjoy guns in museums, both antique and modern.

Assault weapons have no place in civilian hands.  I support a similar ban on manufacture and sale
of new Assault Weapons.  Since the majority of Americans agree, it's you who's views are out of
the norm, not mine.


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She is taking he unfortunate tragedy to lobby congress and attack gun right.  Nothing gets lower than that.  She has no shame.  You don't get much more selfish than that.  She thinks her tragedy gives her the right to use the power of government to dictate to everybody else.  


Just like Mothers Against Drunk DrivingTM


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My $$ went to fund their website.  Money well spent as far as I'm concerned.




Your hoping your money went into building a website but we both know where it went, right into the pockets of the scam artists. I know it must be embarrassing having them make you look like a fool, you been played like a fiddle



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Assault weapons have no place in civilian hands.  I support a similar ban on manufacture and sale
of new Assault Weapons.  Since the majority of Americans agree, it's you who's views are out of
the norm, not mine.


To bad box the guns you hate are already here and there is nothing you or the government can do about it, I know it pisses you off that millions of Americans don't share your bullshit views and that is why they took it upon themselves to create a little insurance to guarantee their right to own assault rifles. You have no idea what is happening in the gun community as I write this, no idea whatsoever    Assault rifles will be apart of Americans for centuries to come.


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Just like Mothers Against Drunk DrivingTM

I agree.  Another group that pushed and succeeded at subverting the 4th Amendment in many states with sobriety checkpoints and warrantless searches.




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I have no doubt that the will of the American people will be heard.  Assault weapons will be restricted
or if pushed hard enough by GunHuggers, they may eventually end up being banned altogether.
It's just a matter of time.  


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