Welcome, Guest.
Please login or register.
School shooting............
Rotterdam NY...the people's voice    Rotterdam's Virtual Internet Community    ....And In The Rest Of The Country  ›  School shooting............ Moderators: Admin
Users Browsing Forum
No Members and 124 Guests

School shooting............  This thread currently has 40,681 views. |
60 Pages « ... 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 ... » Recommend Thread
Henry
April 6, 2013, 1:13pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
6,058
Reputation
85.00%
Reputation Score
+17 / -3
Time Online
2114 days 9 hours 31 minutes
Quoted from Box A Rox




I wonder if Henry can answer this question...
Would you rather face:
1. An armed assailant with an AR15 and 5 30 round magazines...
or
2. As you post above, an assailant armed with a knife?

For some reason when put this way... GunHuggers always run away from their own words.

Easy question, but for some reason... a difficult answer!  


Neither but I would want to be armed with what I feel comfortable with to defend myself, not what some girl private politician thinks I should own. Reality is criminals can get the guns, reality is cops will not be there to protect you, reality is some like you hate those who want to protect themselves instead of relying on others. That is the cold hard facts and no gun laws will change it.



"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 720 - 895
Box A Rox
April 6, 2013, 3:40pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
25,926
Reputation
58.62%
Reputation Score
+17 / -12
Time Online
514 days 11 hours 54 minutes
Quoted from Henry

Reality is criminals can get the guns, reality is cops will not be there to protect you,
reality is some like you hate those who want to protect themselves instead
of relying on others.



My pistol is for self defense... so what makes you say that I hate those who want to protect
themselves... when I have a weapon for that very reason???  
(You just like to use the "THEY HATE OUR FREEDOM" rant! )  

I would call 911 & put a round in the chamber... I hope to never to need it,
but it's there if I do.

Henry just loves a strawman!!!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 721 - 895
Box A Rox
April 12, 2013, 10:08am Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
25,926
Reputation
58.62%
Reputation Score
+17 / -12
Time Online
514 days 11 hours 54 minutes
Pastor Rick Warren reveals his 'depressed' 27-year-old son killed
himself with an unregistered gun he had bought online.


Quoted Text
“Someone on the internet sold Matthew an unregistered gun,” the pastor tweeted.
“I pray he seeks God’s forgiveness. I forgive him.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....n-bought-online.html


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 722 - 895
GrahamBonnet
April 12, 2013, 10:20am Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
9,643
Reputation
66.67%
Reputation Score
+16 / -8
Time Online
131 days 7 hours 47 minutes
yeah, it is so hard to get a gun locally


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
Logged
Private Message Reply: 723 - 895
Henry
April 12, 2013, 10:31am Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
6,058
Reputation
85.00%
Reputation Score
+17 / -3
Time Online
2114 days 9 hours 31 minutes
Quoted from GrahamBonnet
yeah, it is so hard to get a gun locally


All firearms bought over the Internet has to be shipped to a licensed gun dealer, its not like a gun was shipped right to his house. If it was a face to face sale then it would be different, by the way why is the preacher blaming the person who sold him the gun and not his son himself, for all we know it was his son who ground off the serial number as to not get the seller in trouble. And if it wasn't for the gun it would of been an overdose or a hanging or the thousand other ways to kill yourself, there is no story here.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 724 - 895
bumblethru
April 12, 2013, 10:51am Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
30,841
Reputation
78.26%
Reputation Score
+36 / -10
Time Online
412 days 18 hours 59 minutes
anyone could take their lunch hour and ride to hamilton hill or crane street these day.....and for the right price, can buy a gun and a stash of your choice of drugs and be back to work under that hour lunch hour.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
Logged
Private Message Reply: 725 - 895
Libertarian4life
April 12, 2013, 11:46am Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
7,356
Reputation
50.00%
Reputation Score
+12 / -12
Time Online
119 days 21 hours 10 minutes
Quoted from Box A Rox

I would call 911 & put a round in the chamber... I hope to never to need it,
but it's there if I do.



A single round in the chamber?

By the time you get that round loaded you could be shot 7 times.

A round. I guess your logic is if you miss you don't want the attacker to have any ammo to use on you.



Logged
Private Message Reply: 726 - 895
Box A Rox
April 12, 2013, 11:49am Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
25,926
Reputation
58.62%
Reputation Score
+17 / -12
Time Online
514 days 11 hours 54 minutes

According to the link, This was an ILLEGAL GUN.  The serial numbers were ground off so it
was probably stolen.
The proposal to track a gun from manufacture to it being destroyed would eliminate much
of this problem.  
The guy who sold this gun knew it was illegal, and the man buying it knew it too.  The more
guns of this type on the streets the more death they will bring.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 727 - 895
Libertarian4life
April 12, 2013, 11:56am Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
7,356
Reputation
50.00%
Reputation Score
+12 / -12
Time Online
119 days 21 hours 10 minutes
Quoted from Box A Rox

According to the link, This was an ILLEGAL GUN.  The serial numbers were ground off so it
was probably stolen.
The proposal to track a gun from manufacture to it being destroyed would eliminate much
of this problem.  
The guy who sold this gun knew it was illegal, and the man buying it knew it too.  The more
guns of this type on the streets the more death they will bring.


The more illegal you make them, the higher the value for the illegal gun dealers.

Making anything illegal has never stopped the item from being available.

The guys who allegedly destroy guns will get richer.

Logged
Private Message Reply: 728 - 895
CICERO
April 12, 2013, 11:58am Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
18,232
Reputation
68.00%
Reputation Score
+17 / -8
Time Online
702 days 15 hours 7 minutes
Quoted from Box A Rox

According to the link, This was an ILLEGAL GUN.  The serial numbers were ground off so it
was probably stolen.
The proposal to track a gun from manufacture to it being destroyed would eliminate much
of this problem.  
The guy who sold this gun knew it was illegal, and the man buying it knew it too.  The more
guns of this type on the streets the more death they will bring.


Then you assume that the Mexican government won't flood America with weapons from south of the boarder.  Because no government would ever allow that.


Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 729 - 895
Henry
April 12, 2013, 12:02pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
6,058
Reputation
85.00%
Reputation Score
+17 / -3
Time Online
2114 days 9 hours 31 minutes
Quoted from Box A Rox


The proposal to track a gun from manufacture to it being destroyed would eliminate much
of this problem.  
.


How are they going to track a stolen gun box? Do you think the person who stole it will report that he now has the gun You don't think things through before you start writing.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 730 - 895
CICERO
April 12, 2013, 12:06pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
18,232
Reputation
68.00%
Reputation Score
+17 / -8
Time Online
702 days 15 hours 7 minutes
Quoted from Henry


How are they going to track a stolen gun box? Do you think the person who stole it will report that he now has the gun You don't think things through before you start writing.


Yes, they could have tracked Adam Lanza's stolen gun after the shooting.  Oh yeah, they did.  


Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 731 - 895
Box A Rox
April 12, 2013, 12:09pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
25,926
Reputation
58.62%
Reputation Score
+17 / -12
Time Online
514 days 11 hours 54 minutes
Quoted from Henry


How are they going to track a stolen gun box? Do you think the person who stole it will report that he now has the gun You don't think things through before you start writing.


You got it!  So if we had passed these laws 20 years ago when they were proposed, there would be
20 years LESS OF ILLEGAL GUNS on the streets.

No one seriously thinks that there won't be illegal guns... there will probably be a market for them
forever... but... as they become more rare, they become more expensive.  They become less
accessible to criminals.  The less of these guns, and the MORE of the guns in the USA that
are registered, the more traceable these guns become and the more of the criminals will be caught.

I could probably buy an illegal fully automatic M16 today in the USA.  No doubt it would be very
expensive... my guess $8-10,000 up.  If the number of those guns were cut in half... the price
would double or more.  At some point, I would be forced to buy a less lethal illegal gun, or even
buy a legal gun.  
In the end, the less illegal unregistered guns on the streets, the better for America.




The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 732 - 895
Henry
April 12, 2013, 12:15pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
6,058
Reputation
85.00%
Reputation Score
+17 / -3
Time Online
2114 days 9 hours 31 minutes
Quoted from Box A Rox


You got it!  So if we had passed these laws 20 years ago when they were proposed, there would be
20 years LESS OF ILLEGAL GUNS on the streets.

No one seriously thinks that there won't be illegal guns... there will probably be a market for them
forever... but... as they become more rare, they become more expensive.  They become less
accessible to criminals.  The less of these guns, and the MORE of the guns in the USA that
are registered, the more traceable these guns become and the more of the criminals will be caught.

I could probably buy an illegal fully automatic M16 today in the USA.  No doubt it would be very
expensive... my guess $8-10,000 up.  If the number of those guns were cut in half... the price
would double or more.  At some point, I would be forced to buy a less lethal illegal gun, or even
buy a legal gun.  
In the end, the less illegal unregistered guns on the streets, the better for America.




What illegal guns are you talking about? All stolen guns are considered illegal guns, it doesn't matter the make or model of it   Your argument makes no sense what's so ever.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 733 - 895
Box A Rox
April 12, 2013, 12:28pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
25,926
Reputation
58.62%
Reputation Score
+17 / -12
Time Online
514 days 11 hours 54 minutes
Quoted from Henry


What illegal guns are you talking about? All stolen guns are considered illegal guns, it doesn't matter the make or model of it   Your argument makes no sense what's so ever.


Police have consistently said that tracking guns from cradle to grave would help immensely in apprehending
those who use them illegally.
A gun stolen in NY, then trafficked through gun runners to Nevada, then sold to a criminal who gets
caught would then bring down not only the criminal but his source for illegal guns.



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 734 - 895
60 Pages « ... 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 ... » Recommend Thread
|


Thread Rating
There is currently no rating for this thread