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Americans will sit and watch these kids get buried and do nothing about it... and the NRA will just smile.

Blood is on their hands.


the blood is on the shooters hands you moron.....if he had 'only' killed his cousin with a knife it would the ginzu
inventors fault......and would it be a 'better pill to swallow'???????

and you're right, I'm not going to do anything about it.....we are American's, not a bunch of plebs under a monarchy....

nor is it a land of free....it never will be....there is no such thing as freedom from fear......it's called over coming it and
yes, moving on.....this whole thing sucks,,,,but again,,,,humans are like colliding stars in the universe.....

psychiatry will tell you what you are
your government will tell you what to do
your bank will tell you your value
your school will tell you who you are/not
your parents are still looking for the direction book


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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maybe psychiatry was involved....along with those psychiatry drugs......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Huckabee Blames Shooting on:
Removing God from Schools
Mike Huckabee told Fox News that today's deadly massacre in an elementary school in Connecticut
was due to the lack religion in public schools.

Said Huckabee:
"We ask why there is violence in our schools, but we've systematically removed God from our schools.
Should we be so surprised that schools would become a place of carnage because we've made it a place
where we don't want to talk about eternity, life, what responsibility means, accountability?"

See!  It isn't guns or crazy people that cause these shootings... It's the lack of forcing Christianity on
the unwilling.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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On his radio program on American Family Radio, Brian Fischer blamed the lack of prayer in public
schools
for the tragic shooting of 20 children and six adults at an elementary school in Connecticut


“You know the question’s gonna come up, where was God?” he said. “I thought God cared about the little children, God protected the little children. Where was God when all this went down? And here’s the bottom line: God is not gonna go where he’s not wanted.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Huckabee Blames Shooting on:
Removing God from Schools
Mike Huckabee told Fox News that today's deadly massacre in an elementary school in Connecticut
was due to the lack religion in public schools.

Said Huckabee:
"We ask why there is violence in our schools, but we've systematically removed God from our schools.
Should we be so surprised that schools would become a place of carnage because we've made it a place
where we don't want to talk about eternity, life, what responsibility means, accountability?"

See!  It isn't guns or crazy people that cause these shootings... It's the lack of forcing Christianity on
the unwilling.


that's right

because sin isn't feeling bad
guilt isn't depression
happy isn't love

it's not psychiatry.....

it's all about hugging a tree so we are free from fear



...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Quoted from Box A Rox
Huckabee Blames Shooting on:
Removing God from Schools
Mike Huckabee told Fox News that today's deadly massacre in an elementary school in Connecticut
was due to the lack religion in public schools.

Said Huckabee:
"We ask why there is violence in our schools, but we've systematically removed God from our schools.
Should we be so surprised that schools would become a place of carnage because we've made it a place
where we don't want to talk about eternity, life, what responsibility means, accountability?"

See!  It isn't guns or crazy people that cause these shootings... It's the lack of forcing Christianity on
the unwilling.


He's wrong on most of it, but the common respect and decency that is at the core of most religions IS missing.


"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
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although I disagree with schools promoting certain religions.....the observance of such brings a colored thread of community
into the GOVERNMENT RUN ARENA.....without it,requires man made laws, which lack self discovery and self discipline.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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I'd say big bird missed this guy.....

let's see

human:
responsible
logical
love
persevering
valuable

big bird:
tv
puppet
disposable
human hiding behind him
logical?
feeling?


apparently our current religion is lacking


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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A woman reporter on one of the national netoworks was upset that night had fallen and they wouldn't be able to get pictures of the bodies being
brought out  

Just feel sick inside.

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Gun Grabbers Call for Murder of NRA President, Supporters in Wake of Mass Shooting


Melissa Melton
Prison Planet.com
December 14, 2012

Following the horrific Connecticut school massacre that left 28 people dead this morning, Twitter began trending with people blaming the National Rifle Association (NRA) and the 2nd Amendment — and not the person with free will who committed the atrocity — for the tragedy.

Some people went so far as to openly call for the murder of NRA President David Keene and any NRA supporters.

Calls also came to do away with the 2nd Amendment and for stricter gun control laws, regardless of the fact that gun control has actually been shown to increase crime and the shooter was obviously not following any laws at all when he entered a school and opened fire.

In addition, Connecticut has some of the strictest gun laws in the nation. The state is actually listed as 5th in the nation for gun control laws according to the Brady Campaign to Prevent Violence.

As Infowars has reported before, when our forefathers penned the Constitution, the purpose of the 2nd Amendment was made perfectly clear:


A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

The 2nd Amendment is “necessary to the security of a free State”; it is what helps ensure our freedom from a tyrannous government.

Criminals who are dead set on committing murders will find a way to get a gun regardless of laws or amendments. The real threat is the fact that our own government is armed to the teeth. The 2nd Amendment does not only regard one’s personal self-defense, but it speaks to the broader ability of the people to keep a potentially oppressive, out-of-control government and its standing army in check.

The perpetrator of this heinous crime in Connecticut was not following any gun laws when he shot 28 people today.

America is based on the 2nd Amendment. Our liberty and the ability to stay free of total government tyranny depends on it.

The hypocrisy in the wake of this shooting is reaching a crescendo. Calling for more senseless violence and murder will not bring these shooting victims back to life, neither will enacting stricter gun laws that shooters obviously do not follow when they commit these terrible crimes in the first place anyway. On the other side of the world, our government continues to drone strike “suspected militants” in the Middle East nearly every week, killing any innocent women and children who happen to be near a strike zone and they have been doing it for years now; where is the outcry for their mass deaths at the hands of the Obama Administration?

The silence is deafening.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Was just watching Anderson Cooper and yes Connecticut does have very tough gun laws.  Again its the person who commits the violent act.
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I cannot beleive the dead children's bodies are still in the school and may be until SUNDAY, according to news reports.....why?
to investigate....what??? The shooter is DEAD. Let these parents have their children...they should be the priority.


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So was this young adult on some kind of psyco drug too??????




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The following are reports of teens committing acts of school violence during an 18 year period from 1988-2006  beginning only one year after the first SSRI antidepressant was approved for the U.S. market for adult use only. More than half of the teens committing these acts were taking SSRI antidepressants.

1988
1. September 26, 1988, South Carolina: James Wilson, 19, went on a shooting spree in an elementary schoolyard in Greenwood, killing two 8 year olds, and wounding 7 other children and 2 teachers. He was taking Xanax and for the eight months prior to the shooting had been taking several psychiatric drugs.

1997
2. October 1, 1997, Pearl, Mississippi: Luke Woodham, 16, shot two students to death and wounded seven others after beating and stabbing his mother to death. Public reports say the boy was taking Prozac.

3. December 1, 1997, West Paducah, Kentucky: 14-year-old Michael Carneal
was on Ritalin, when he started firing a gun during a prayer meeting at a high school, killing three teens aged 14 to 17, and wounding five other students, including one who is paralyzed.

1998
4. March 1998, Arkansas: Andrew Golden, 11, and cousin Mitchell Johnson, 13, went on a shooting spree at Westside Middle School in Arkansas, killing four students and one teacher. Nine students and a teacher were also wounded. In a review of the book Teenage Rampage: The Worldwide Youth Phenomenon, both boys were reported to be taking Ritalin.

5. May 21, 1998, Oregon: 15-year-old Kip Kinkel murdered his parents and then
proceeded to school where he opened fire on students in the cafeteria, killing two
and wounding 22. Kinkel had been taking Prozac and an amphetamine.

6. Pocatello, Idaho: An unnamed 14 year old held 5 classmates hostage with a gun. He surrendered to the police and fortunately no one was hurt. He was taking Zoloft.


1999
7. April 16, 1999, Idaho: 15-year-old Shawn Cooper fired two shotgun rounds in his school, narrowly missing students. He was taking a prescribed SSRI antidepressant and Ritalin.

8. April 29, 1999, Taber, Alberta: An unnamed 14-year-old student from W.R. Myers High School shot two students, killing one. He began taking prescribed Dexedrine immediately prior to the shooting.

9. April 20, 1999, Colorado: 18-year-old Eric Harris, the ringleader in the Columbine massacre was taking Luvox that the coroner confirmed was in his system through toxicology reports. He and his co-shooter, Dylan Klebold killed 12 students and a teacher and wounded 23 others before killing themselves.

10. May 20, 1999, Georgia: 15-year-old T.J. Solomon was being treated with
Ritalin when he opened fire on and wounded six of his classmates.

11. December 6, 1999, Fort Gibson, Oklahoma: 13-year-old Seth Trickey fired
at least 15 shots at Fort Gibson Middle School wounding four classmates. He was
undergoing psychological counseling and was probably being medicated, although those records are sealed.

2000
12. March 7, 2000, Williamsport, Pennsylvania: Elizabeth Bush, 14, was taking
Prozac when she shot at fellow students, wounding one.

2001
13. January 10, 2001, Oxnard, California: A 17-year-old gunman fired shots at
Hueneme High School before taking a female student hostage. He was later shot and killed by police. Prior to the shooting he had been treated for mental illness and was probably taking psychiatric drugs.

14. March 22, 2001, California: 18-year-old Jason Hoffman opened fire on his
classmates, wounding three students and two teachers at Granite Hills High School. He had been prescribed the antidepressants Celexa and Effexor.

15. April 2001, Washington State: 16-year-old Cory Baadsgaard took a rifle to
his high school and took 23 classmates and a teacher hostage. According to another student, “Cory was yelling and then he just stopped, looked down at the gun in his hand and woke up.” Fortunately, no one was hurt. Cory had been taking Effexor and had no memory of the incident.

2003
16. January 2003, Elliot City, Maryland: Ryan T. Furlough, 19, killed a Centennial High School classmate by spiking his soda with cyanide. He was being treated with Effexor.

2004
17. February 2004, Greenbush, New York: 16-year-old, Jon Romano strolled into Columbia high school in east Greenbush and opened fire with a shotgun. Special education teacher Michael Bennett was hit in the leg. The boy was treated with medication for depression.

2005
18. March, 2005, Minnesota: Jeff Weise, 16, shot dead his grandparents, then went to his school on the Red Lake Indian Reservation where he shot dead 8 students and a teacher, and wounded 7 before killing himself. He was taking Prozac.

19. November 8, 2005, Jacksboro, Tennessee: Kenneth Bartley, a student in
high school shot and killed an assistant principal. The principal and another assistant principal were wounded. He had previously spent about a year and a half in a residential juvenile treatment program, where he was likely prescribed psychiatric drugs.

2006
20. August 30, 2006, Hillsborough, North Carolina: Alvaro Castillo, 19, killed
his father, then opened fire at Orange High School, wounding two students before
surrendering to police. He had been involuntarily treated in a state psychiatric hospital, and such commitment nearly always involves drugs.

21. October 10, 2006, Charleston, South Carolina: Tyrell Glover, 19, took an air rifle to Burke High School where he planned to hold students hostage and be gunned down by police. He had been taking an antidepressant for several years but his mother took him off the drug when she saw the listed side effects in ads. However, Tyrell began taking Prozac again for approximately six months. Whether he was taking a psychiatric drug or withdrawing from it at the time of this hostage/suicide plan is yet to be confirmed.

The number of drug-related school shootings are dwarfed by the number of non-school-related violent events associated with psychiatric medication use. Many school shooting cases have had their court documents sealed, especially if minors are involved, and the extent of the chemical use is often never revealed. The psychiatric drug-related violence noted in the cases above was discovered mostly by reporters who dug up the data, usually reporting it as an “incidental” finding!

http://cegant.com/commentary/school-shootings-and-psychiatric-drugs


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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Quoted from Tommy


This chart lists only privately owned guns.

Add the government guns and there are probably a couple dozen for every man, woman and child in the US.

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55Tbird I don't understand that either. As a parent I would be wondering are you sure my child is dead? Maybe there is a mistake?
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